Seriously we need a Class 1 Air Rifle

[Defiant Dan]

We got lots of Class 1 Animals now, but only a 22 rifle or birdshot as Option to hunt them.
In Hunter Classic they have much more, for example small bore air Rifles and Pistol Crossbows.
I really wish we would have a like 35 ft/lb PCP Rifle with Silencer, it would be ideal to hunt Rabbits and Turkeys from Treestand without causing much alert in the other Animals.

And modern Airgun Scopes with Milldot and Paralax-Rangefinder really allow accurate shots, it works by turning a knob until the Sights become clear, and then you can read how much meters that are, and then you know how much dots in the milldot scope you have to overaim to compensate for bullet drop.

This would be a intresting challenge over just pointing the crosshair on Target like we do with the 22 Rifle in Rabbit and Turkey hunting.

And the modern Hunting Pellets have evolved alot...i use Pointy cal 22 Pellets, but the Point is made from 4 folded forward triangle like pieces, which fold backward like claws on Impact. That increases the Diameter of the Pellet from 5.5 to 11.5 mm which causes a very big wound channel and even Turkeys can be killed with them without Problem.

[Gloweyes]

I can confirm this. i have an old .22 air rifle from 1945 that my grandpa used for pest control. I mounted a 4x scope on it and its still accurate to about 120 meters. For class 1 game it should be utmost effective if you have a pcp or co2 rifle with silencer

[Defiant Dan]

Originally posted by Gloweyes:

I can confirm this. i have an old .22 air rifle from 1945 that my grandpa used for pest control. I mounted a 4x scope on it and its still accurate to about 120 meters. For class 1 game it should be utmost effective if you have a pcp or co2 rifle with silencer

They are effective and silent, would be great to have them in Game. Look this VIdeo, its just a spring Rifle from Gamo but you can shoot Hogs with it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jejT_DOIgO4

[kubanskiloewe]

we have a .22lfb rifle and a very accurate pistol with scope.
Than we have the new .22Hornet for class 1-2.
All i like to have is the .22Magnum and a 4,5mm (normal Diabolos and pointed balls) air rifle from DIANA , perhaps Model 27 or 35 ( I have both).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fWC43C7L7I

[Defiant Dan]

Hehe 22 lfb ? You must be German cause "lang für Büchse" is the German Name

Diana is great, all my Airguns are Diana... but i would not want to carry this big K98 trough the Woods. Something like the Stormrider is great, small size, silencer, cal 22 pcp with like 33 ft/lb Muzzle Energy. ...thats more then enough to kill most animals with the right placement right inside the brain to neck connection (usually Ear as aimpoint)

I mean you saw how the Hogs in the VIdeo reacted...they where pretty much dead instantly (and that was just a 12 ft/lb Energy Spring Rifle not a 33ft/lb PCP ) cause their egg sized brain was complete destroyed by the impact shock of the Pellet.

Also i really want the low sound and silencer effect of 22 Air Rifle... a silenced PCP Rifle makes less noise then a Kid BB Gun does even its like 10x stronger. Animals dont react to this alot.... and thats the Point...
I dont want to sit on a Treestand for half an Hour to harvest 1 Rabbit.... Hunting this small animals always should be like Geese Hunting where you shoot alot of them in short Time, and Air Rifle would allow this. Thats why i want them its realistical too, its just like 70 db or so... when i smash my Hand on the Table it makes a louder sound


But what Hornet are you speaking off ? Which DLC is that ???

[kubanskiloewe]

the .22Hornet comes with Mississipi DLC.
the 3d Model sucks; barrel looks awful; even worse than the Martensson.
i use it sometimes vs calss 1 but class 2 its not good. There the good old Ranger .243 with ammo for nothing is king !

[Defiant Dan]

Originally posted by kubanskiloewe:

the .22Hornet comes with Mississipi DLC.
the 3d Model sucks; barrel looks awful; even worse than the Martensson.
i use it sometimes vs calss 1 but class 2 its not good. There the good old Ranger .243 with ammo for nothing is king !

I really wish we would have a Rifle in 1-3 ... So for everything from Bunny to Buck
And a cal 22 or 25 or even a 30 cal PCP Air Rifle would be perfect for this.

Cause a good Hunting PCP has a Dial for Power... it would be easy to set it to Bunny Power or Buck Power


Btw in Game only thing which seems to matter is how many Organs are penetrated not much how they got destroyed.
Take the most common shot with double Lungshot... clear Penetration will cause the Lungs to deflate and the Animal basically dies from drowning in its own blood......
While a high energy Transfer Bullet would in real destroy so much of the spongy lung tissue that suffocation will be instantly... when the Animal was exited and exhausted like on a driven Hunt, the Oxygen Lack in Brain is so big that this leeds to instant "blackout" and unconsciousness in a few Seconds.

So in real the Mushrooming Effect for a Double Lung shot should cause faster Death then a clean Penetration... But in Game the high Penetration clean pass trough shot always brings a faster result.

The biggest Guns with high penetration Ammo always seems to kill most fast, therefore i always take the Gun which qualifies but has the highest Animal Class.
For example when Animal is class 4... and i have a Rifle 2-6, a Rifle 3-7 and a Rifle 4-8, the 4-8 Rifle will bring the best Result.

Thats why i basically never use the 243, not even for Fox cause the 30-30 is superior for that too.

[kubanskiloewe]

yes and no. i´m on MExico map now and its more for short ranges and perfect for the lever action rifles. These have good ammo but when it comes to distance the .234 is much more accurate. class 4 with the 45 lever action at 70m is most times a instant kill. But on 150m you will sometimes miss the whole animal !
So class 4 on long range i use the Martensson. class5-class6 the .303.

interestingly the penetration ammo for the 2 lever action rifles is cheaper than the normal ammo. On all other rifles ist the way around !

The game has a problem at the low class. The .223 is imo to weak for class4 and often for class3 too. So they cant implement lower calipers :-) reality is a whole other story, we know that ! i shot a magpie at about 50m with a DIANA 35 export model and scope....never will forget this 1sec from impact sound to downfall of the bird...at first i thought i missed

[Defiant Dan]

Originally posted by kubanskiloewe:

yes and no. i´m on MExico map now and its more for short ranges and perfect for the lever action rifles. These have good ammo but when it comes to distance the .234 is much more accurate. class 4 with the 45 lever action at 70m is most times a instant kill. But on 150m you will sometimes miss the whole animal !
So class 4 on long range i use the Martensson. class5-class6 the .303.

interestingly the penetration ammo for the 2 lever action rifles is cheaper than the normal ammo. On all other rifles ist the way around !

The game has a problem at the low class. The .223 is imo to weak for class4 and often for class3 too. So they cant implement lower calipers :-) reality is a whole other story, we know that ! i shot a magpie at about 50m with a DIANA 35 export model and scope....never will forget this 1sec from impact sound to downfall of the bird...at first i thought i missed

Mexico is great for the 45 Air Rifle

[SpiraTech]

This would be a great addition to the game.