Thoughts on Cross-Platform?

[Maestro]

What's everyone's thought on cross platform compatibility? Me and a few friends thought it would be a good idea, and I feel like it would make this community bigger.

[Kaned Dragon]

If you mean, having a system where people on PC could player the same game as people on consoles.

+1

I've been waiting for the games industry to allow this for years. Most of my friends are console gamers, I'm a PC gamer. Always wanted to play with them but can't.

[Secret Squirrel]

Boy does this topic get me going. LOL.

Cross play is what the industry calls it, and there are a few reasons the majority of titles don't allow cross play. But before I get into that, I'll say this.... there is no valid technical reason in 2018. The game engines these games are built on top of are platform agnostic so that a single code base can be used to build for PC, PS4, Wii, Andoid, iOS, etc.

1) The console gaming culture views PC players as having unfair advantage because of superior hardware and mouse+keyboard aiming/shooting is much, much faster than using a controller.

These claims are true and valid for highly competitive games, especially shooters. Some games try to level the playing field with auto-aim for controller/console users. But then the argument is THOSE players have the unfair advantage.

Regarding hardware advantage, a good gaming rig will allow the player to see and react quicker. Between the higher frame rate, faster monitor response time, and lesser input lag, PC players can have a huge advantage.

I can see games that are extremely competitive creating brackets that pit only PC players against other PC players and console against console. But there should be casual play.

2) Cheating is mainly a PC problem. The console culture views it as the majority of PC players cheat, so they want no part of us.

In my experience though, people tend to claim anyone with superior skill/ability has to be cheating when the person loses.

But yes, this is a valid claim.

3) The industry main players don't want cross play because it would reduce their revenue stream. Kids need an XBox and a PS4 if they want to be able to play with all their friends. Sony is very much against cross play and will not cooperate with any efforts to tear down the barriers.

Fortnite's cross play support matrix speaks volumes. https://www.polygon.com/2018/3/23/17146848/cross-platform-crossplay-ps4-xbox-pc-switch-ios-mobile-enable-friends-compatible-matchmaking

This isn't because of Fortnite, but because of Sony. They won't allow their platform to play with XBox or Switch.

As a reason, Sony cites that keeping PS4 players ring fenced, that is necessary for Sony to monitor and police the community, keep kids safe, etc.

That might be valid for games that are ESRB rated E, E10, and maybe even Teen, but doesn't really make sense for M17 rated games.

What I think is really going on is Sony is staying out of the sandbox and not playing well in order to protect their brand by forcing kids to buy the platform other kids have.

Microsoft is trying to make the futre for cross platform play a little bright with their Play Anywhere program (https://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/xbox-play-anywhere). While it doesn't enable cross play, it at least would keep you from having to double purchase titles on PC and Xbox. The problem is, few titles support it and you have to buy iot from the windows store (not steam or any other retailer). You can guess why titles don't jump on the Play Anywhere program. They make money forcing people to double or triple purchase titles so they can play with all their friends.

[Kaned Dragon]

Moneys' always been the issues. And you raise all the main points. It's a shame, that player's can't just play with mates on other divices and yeah, it simply won't ever happen. To much money to loose, to complex to get round all the issue you mention. Still a boy can dream hehe

[Secret Squirrel]

引用自 kaned dragon：

Moneys' always been the issues. And you raise all the main points. It's a shame, that player's can't just play with mates on other divices and yeah, it simply won't ever happen. To much money to loose, to complex to get round all the issue you mention. Still a boy can dream hehe

My opinion is the cheating problem is really hurting us. If the PC gaming community could weed those out it would help. Never could really grasp what one gains by hacking a game and cheating, but then again I am not 17.

[kanuzira]

i would pay for having the option to play with console people, it would be a good adition to this game since no real advantage can be taken here on pc. this is about the hunt and having fun with your friends

[Kaned Dragon]

I know Secret Squirrel, it ruined the multiplayer for me.
Kanazira, not a bad idea, would give the dev's another source of income. Maybe a private server that monitored.

[Turtle]

Cross-Play

I would highly appreciate if you guys would add cross play with ps4 and Xbox and pc please it would make the game so much better thank you.

[The Sarge]

引用自 Secret Squirrel：

Boy does this topic get me going. LOL.

Cross play is what the industry calls it, and there are a few reasons the majority of titles don't allow cross play. But before I get into that, I'll say this.... there is no valid technical reason in 2018. The game engines these games are built on top of are platform agnostic so that a single code base can be used to build for PC, PS4, Wii, Andoid, iOS, etc.

1) The console gaming culture views PC players as having unfair advantage because of superior hardware and mouse+keyboard aiming/shooting is much, much faster than using a controller.

These claims are true and valid for highly competitive games, especially shooters. Some games try to level the playing field with auto-aim for controller/console users. But then the argument is THOSE players have the unfair advantage.

Regarding hardware advantage, a good gaming rig will allow the player to see and react quicker. Between the higher frame rate, faster monitor response time, and lesser input lag, PC players can have a huge advantage.

I can see games that are extremely competitive creating brackets that pit only PC players against other PC players and console against console. But there should be casual play.

2) Cheating is mainly a PC problem. The console culture views it as the majority of PC players cheat, so they want no part of us.

In my experience though, people tend to claim anyone with superior skill/ability has to be cheating when the person loses.

But yes, this is a valid claim.

3) The industry main players don't want cross play because it would reduce their revenue stream. Kids need an XBox and a PS4 if they want to be able to play with all their friends. Sony is very much against cross play and will not cooperate with any efforts to tear down the barriers.

Fortnite's cross play support matrix speaks volumes. https://www.polygon.com/2018/3/23/17146848/cross-platform-crossplay-ps4-xbox-pc-switch-ios-mobile-enable-friends-compatible-matchmaking

This isn't because of Fortnite, but because of Sony. They won't allow their platform to play with XBox or Switch.

As a reason, Sony cites that keeping PS4 players ring fenced, that is necessary for Sony to monitor and police the community, keep kids safe, etc.

That might be valid for games that are ESRB rated E, E10, and maybe even Teen, but doesn't really make sense for M17 rated games.

What I think is really going on is Sony is staying out of the sandbox and not playing well in order to protect their brand by forcing kids to buy the platform other kids have.

Microsoft is trying to make the futre for cross platform play a little bright with their Play Anywhere program (https://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/xbox-play-anywhere). While it doesn't enable cross play, it at least would keep you from having to double purchase titles on PC and Xbox. The problem is, few titles support it and you have to buy iot from the windows store (not steam or any other retailer). You can guess why titles don't jump on the Play Anywhere program. They make money forcing people to double or triple purchase titles so they can play with all their friends.

Can't really add any more to that....
It's always about the MONEY...

[MadroKurgan]

PLEASE DEVS!! Make crossplay happen!! I have both games on the PC and Xbox versions of The Hunter: Call of he Wild, but cannot stand to play on the console due to the 30 fps. I want to play with my nephews who have it on the xbox but I have all my time spent on the PC and 60 fps is soooo much better.

Call of Duty: Modern Warefare is the perfect example of how crossplay works perfectly! Sony is no longer a barrier against crossplay. Even if they were, all I really would like to see is PC and Xbox crossplay. I would spend money for a crossplay DLC in a heartbeat!!!

[Zyrex]

Crossplay // Crossplatform // PC XBOX PS4

I and probably many more think it would be a really good idea to add crossplay.
It would bring so many more players.
If we have crossplay, we can play with more people, and friends!

[licker98]

I don't see any reason not to add crossplay to this sort of game.

[McSqurl Nugget]

引用自 licker98：

I don't see any reason not to add crossplay to this sort of game.

Simple, PC cheaters and no ability to control the online environment. no banning, no screening, etc.

That and like said above - Sony doesn't play nicely with anyone else.

[Mashsan]

Crossplatform Multiplayer

Please add the ability to play the game on PC/PS4 or something different and play together with players on each other platform.

[dmartm]

Cross-platform

Cross-platform should be in the game because people like me what to play with people that play on console.

[Bonky's Ding Dong Hut]

+1 on this. My co worker and I were talking about this and spent the whole day talking about this so we could meme each other. And then again, not everyone has a computer that can run it, but it would be awesome to see. For sure support this!