Opinion: Duck sniping is unrealistic and should be penalized

[Tiom]

I understand that this is a game and that not everything matches up to real life principles, but there is still an integrity system in the game. Waterfowl should have their own category for integrity that limits full integrity to shotgun birdshot only.

[Snail Rancher]

Why? It’s your game. If you okay want to use shotguns, use shotguns.

[Cliffs]

In my State it is illegal to hunt water fowl with a rifle/handgun of any caliber.

[Trout]

From the US Fish and Wildlife Service:

Illegal hunting methods. You cannot hunt waterfowl:
With a trap, snare, net, rifle, pistol, swivel gun, shotgun larger than 10 gauge, punt gun, battery gun, machine gun, fish hook, poison, drug, explosive, or stupefying substance.

[Tiom]

Originally posted by Snail Rancher:

Why? It’s your game. If you okay want to use shotguns, use shotguns.

It is about integrity. How can shooting a sitting duck on the water from 75+ yds with a .22lr be considered to be of integrity? You are sniping a sitting duck. There is no sport to it.

[Funky Stunt]

Originally posted by Tiom:

Originally posted by Snail Rancher:

Why? It’s your game. If you okay want to use shotguns, use shotguns.

It is about integrity. How can shooting a sitting duck on the water from 75+ yds with a .22lr be considered to be of integrity? You are sniping a sitting duck. There is no sport to it.

Never had an issue with any animal staying still while I shoot it. Why should a duck be any different? One shot, dead, in the oven. Isn't that the idea?

If it's only about sport, do skeet. I'll run the trap for you. Only difference is you won't get to call "pull", it flies random, like a duck - make it a real "sporting" challenge.

[Rookie-31st]

Originally posted by Trout:

From the US Fish and Wildlife Service:

Illegal hunting methods. You cannot hunt waterfowl:
With a trap, snare, net, rifle, pistol, swivel gun, shotgun larger than 10 gauge, punt gun, battery gun, machine gun, fish hook, poison, drug, explosive, or stupefying substance.

What does it say about hunting at night?

[Tiom]

Originally posted by Funky Stunt:

Never had an issue with any animal staying still while I shoot it. Why should a duck be any different? One shot, dead, in the oven. Isn't that the idea?

If it's only about sport, do skeet. I'll run the trap for you. Only difference is you won't get to call "pull", it flies random, like a duck - make it a real "sporting" challenge.

Your skeet comments tells me that you don't consider duck hunting a sport. I don't see any other reason why you would have snidely put the word in quotes. If that is the case then I have no idea why you are bothering to chime in about the lack of ethics and integrity a person would have to have to shoot a duck with a .22lr. In reality its unsporting, unlawful and dangerous to other hunters. If it wasn't your intention to mock the sport of hunting then you might want to re-think your comment.

Also, I love sporting clays but saying that they fly randomly like a duck is ridiculous. A clay will always follow an arc, usually downward but I have seen the occasional hand thrown "summit and plummet" upwards arc. In any case it doesn't fly like a duck. A duck can suddenly dip left or right, frequently pass at upwards arcs and also flare into rapid ascents.

[HeWhoHordesManyPillows]

I think the intention was that you can ethically take down a duck with a .22lr just like a rabbit or so, and still have all the meat on the corpse.

Not like if you shot a rabbit or bird with a 7.62x54r or 30-06 and there is not much intact after said hit.

I don't think they intended it to be limited to the animals or waterfowls stance/action. At least, this would explain their current ground work.

Can you shoot a sleeping animal with full integrity ? I have not tested this, but would support my you can shoot anything at any time based on caliber alone.

[Leadmagnet]

You have to check reality at the door so to speak when playing. You can do things in game that in reality are illegal or unsporting. Ducks with a .22 is one. Only thing the in-game integrity system seems to do is keep you from using too large of a caliber on too small of an animal at least if you are trying for any kind of score.

Originally posted by Rookie-31st:

Originally posted by Trout:

From the US Fish and Wildlife Service:

Illegal hunting methods. You cannot hunt waterfowl:
With a trap, snare, net, rifle, pistol, swivel gun, shotgun larger than 10 gauge, punt gun, battery gun, machine gun, fish hook, poison, drug, explosive, or stupefying substance.

What does it say about hunting at night?

Dunno about national but it is illegal to hunt anything beyond varmints and wild hogs in Texas at night.

[Leadmagnet]

Originally posted by HeWhoHordesManyPillows:

I think the intention was that you can ethically take down a duck with a .22lr just like a rabbit or so, and still have all the meat on the corpse.

Not like if you shot a rabbit or bird with a 7.62x54r or 30-06 and there is not much intact after said hit.

I don't think they intended it to be limited to the animals or waterfowls stance/action. At least, this would explain their current ground work.

Can you shoot a sleeping animal with full integrity ? I have not tested this, but would support my you can shoot anything at any time based on caliber alone.

I've shot resting animals in game with no problem as far as integrity when using the correct weapon.

[HeWhoHordesManyPillows]

Originally posted by Leadmagnet:

I've shot resting animals in game with no problem as far as integrity when using the correct weapon.

That tells me integrity is tied to caliber.

[jimco]

Well I gave this guy a real sporting chance to get away and he almost did.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1885449252

[Funky Stunt]

Originally posted by Tiom:

Your skeet comments tells me that you don't consider duck hunting a sport. I don't see any other reason why you would have snidely put the word in quotes. If that is the case then I have no idea why you are bothering to chime in about the lack of ethics and integrity a person would have to have to shoot a duck with a .22lr. In reality its unsporting, unlawful and dangerous to other hunters. If it wasn't your intention to mock the sport of hunting then you might want to re-think your comment.

Also, I love sporting clays but saying that they fly randomly like a duck is ridiculous. A clay will always follow an arc, usually downward but I have seen the occasional hand thrown "summit and plummet" upwards arc. In any case it doesn't fly like a duck. A duck can suddenly dip left or right, frequently pass at upwards arcs and also flare into rapid ascents.

May as well chill a little mate. Using a .22 in a game will not hurt anyone so you're getting all frizzed up over very little. I thought I'd share a little jibe since you seemed a bit uppity, but I guess some people want everything to be so serious it hurts to laugh right?

As for ducks, one of the reasons I live where I live is so I can go duck hunting but I don't see it as a "sport", I see it as a way to get free duck, have some time out in the sun on a crispy morning and flex when I pull down a good bird when I'm balanced on a tinny. You might call it sport where you live, I call it feeding the family. For sport, I skeet shoot.

And the reference to skeet was not they fly random, I mean they would leave at random - like a duck - if I didn't let you call pull. If you did skeet you'd know what that means.

Maybe next time I answer one of your threads I'll mark it "draft" and get your approval first.

(And just to clarify - in my state shooting ducks for "sport" is frowned upon big time - in any form. That's why we call it "sport" in quotations, an Aussie joke in case RSPCA is watching

RSPCA South Australia believes there is no justification for killing and injuring native waterbirds purely for ‘sport’. It is cruel and unnecessary.

Their words....
- reference: https://www.rspcasa.org.au/the-issues/duck-hunting/
)

[Tiom]

Originally posted by Funky Stunt:

Maybe next time I answer one of your threads I'll mark it "draft" and get your approval first.

Just don't bother. You have no useful input.

[Funky Stunt]

Originally posted by Tiom:

Originally posted by Funky Stunt:

Maybe next time I answer one of your threads I'll mark it "draft" and get your approval first.

Just don't bother. You have no useful input.

A bit childish don't you think? Find a lake and have a swim and cool down ya' muppet, you didn't even bother to read what I said by way of explanation.

I understand that this is a game

And no, you don't.