Bad Shot Punishment

[Malker]

Imo the current mechanic is too forgiving when wounding an animal badly. I‘d like to see when the shot placement is bad so that the animal is suffering like i.e. receiving leg shot or a shot in the abdomen we need to be punished not just by a lower score. Also by using unethical ammo.

Receiving negative XP points would be a reasonable measure. Torment animations can underline the cruelty of a bad shot so that you have to place a second shot to finish it off and maybe receive half of the negative XP points back.

Might be something for an optional realism setting.

[❄️The Last Frontier 😊]

No Thanks it's bad enough we lose our consecutive kill streak which robs us of higher level animal kills!

[Zourin]

It's actually in the game to some degree.

I wounded a boar and had a hell of a time finding it again. When I did, it was limping badly and falling over pathetically. Deer with wounded limbs also limp.

[Leadmagnet]

No thanks on the negative XP unless it would be something you could toggle in the options & defaults to like it is now. There are already some new players complaining about how long it takes to level. Look at all the complaints about the accuracy of bow and wreck known as the shotgun. How many new players would even move beyond the rifle and use those weapons knowing they are going to take even longer to level?

[Rookie-31st]

It is good to have discussion about consequences of bad shots. It is good that people think about it, and we should complement Malker for being responsible hunter even in the game.

'You have to think about that one shot. One shot is all it takes. A deer's gotta be taken down with one shot'
A Written Note by Unknown

However, XP means 'experience'. You cannot deduct experience. Bad experience is still experience you gain. With bad shot, you're losing score points and quick kill bonus, risking hours of search and possibly lose of consecutive bonus and integrity bonus (if second shot needed to finish the job) as well.

[Malker]

Originally posted by rookie31st:

It is good to have discussion about consequences of bad shots. It is good that people think about it, and we should complement Malker for being responsible hunter even in the game.

'You have to think about that one shot. One shot is all it takes. A deer's gotta be taken down with one shot'
A Written Note by Unknown

However, XP means 'experience'. You cannot deduct experience. Bad experience is still experience you gain. With bad shot, you're losing score points and quick kill bonus, risking hours of search and possibly lose of consecutive bonus and integrity bonus (if second shot needed to finish the job) as well.

Thank you for the compliment. I was thinking about the good/bad experience of still beeing experience myself. Maybe they just could make the score system more attractive or even mandatory. Because I don‘t care much about it atm respectively when I do a bad shot I just think „oh bummer but oh well...“.

Maybe there could be another way to make the ethical kills more rewarding and the bad shots more ugly. With starting this thread my thought was to share opinions how to make the best out of this game. I like the initial idea of the devs to behave ethical but I think there is still a lot of room for improvement and the animal is not really in the focus of it.

[❄️The Last Frontier 😊]

yeah but problem is this games too buggy to even contemplate a negative action for bad shots type thing.

Like just now I know for a fact I shot this dang moose in the face. No way I missed it was that close and on target and the dang thing took over a flesh would from a 7MM to the face.

Yesterday same shot to a bear and the bear would drop in it's tracks but lately I have noticed moose seem to only be taking flesh wounds even when it is a clear vital or in the case above face/brain shot.

I have lost 2 cow moose this morning due to this! The second one I know I hit broadside center mass and yet no vital or even non vital his despite being center mass again only flesh wound and both moose always stayed 1 step ahead and in in clear areas you could never see it.

So until they sort out these issue with animals such as the disappearing animals or the animals that run off into the water there should be no penalties at all as far as I am concerned. To many are complaining about animals even higher animals running into the water and disappearing unable to be harvested as it just vanishes!

[Abatzu]

Moose are really resilient for any type of hits what dont deal with spine, i have tracked lung shot moose for 2km before it died to its wound. That was with 7mm mag.

I too think that TheHunter is still too buggy for punishment system.

But if it ever gets better, I would ike too see ingame cash to use as for punishment / penalty for wounding animals and leaving them. That would give more interest to place shots better and try to sneak closer.
And some tag system as well, so not any animal would be shot in sight. Just those what one has tags for.

[Rookie-31st]

Originally posted by Döbelni:

Moose are really resilient for any type of hits what dont deal with spine

They drop dead when heart or brain is hit, but yes lung shots take more time for them to die because they are big animals. Coyotes on the other hand bleed to death relatively quick even due to flesh wound

[❄️The Last Frontier 😊]

Originally posted by Döbelni:

Moose are really resilient for any type of hits what dont deal with spine, i have tracked lung shot moose for 2km before it died to its wound. That was with 7mm mag.

I too think that TheHunter is still too buggy for punishment system.

But if it ever gets better, I would ike too see ingame cash to use as for punishment / penalty for wounding animals and leaving them. That would give more interest to place shots better and try to sneak closer.
And some tag system as well, so not any animal would be shot in sight. Just those what one has tags for.

Yeah lately I have had issues killing moose in fact I am pretty sure I nailed two in the face the other day a male and a female as their face was literally filly my scope I was that close and both never went past 0-25 on blood loose and could never find the animals as they were always 1 step ahead.

If the OP's suggestion was added then they also need to make wounded animals act appropriately an animal on 0-25 should be barely move not sprinting so much and fast that you can't catch up to it!

As for cash lose no thanks hard enough saving up for things without losing cash. Even in the real world you wound an animal and can't find it it's lunch for another.

Like here is Texas laws briefly touched upon regarding wounded animals


https://tpwd.texas.gov/regulations/outdoor-annual/hunting/general-regulations/laws-penalties-restitution

Waste of Game

It is an offense (Class C misdemeanor) if a person while hunting kills or wounds a game bird or game animal and intentionally or knowingly fails to make a reasonable effort to retrieve the animal or bird and include it in the person's daily or seasonal bag limit. It is an offense if a person intentionally takes or possesses a game bird, game animal, or fish and intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly, or with criminal negligence, fails to keep the edible portions of the bird, animal, or fish in an edible condition. It is a Class A misdemeanor to fail to retrieve or to keep in an edible condition a whitetail or mule deer, pronghorn antelope, or desert bighorn sheep hunted without landowner consent; from a vehicle, boat, or aircraft (including unmanned aerial vehicles); on a public road; at night; or with the aid of a light.

At least from this so long as a reasonable search for the animal has been made losing it in the end won't put up any penalty so IF there was a monetary penalty incurred then it should only be if you wound an animal and do not track it for X amount of tracks say that way those who do wound an animal and do make a concerted effort to find the animal don't get hurt as we all know hunters do from time to time just lose an animal for whatever reason.