"I'm only happy when it rains" skill... isn't worded clearly.

[Dume]

The Ambusher skill "I'm only happy when it rains" states

"Decreases your visablity in foggy weather"
"Decreases your visablity in rainy weather"

These sound like very poor skills to take if they make it harder for you to see when it rains or is foggy (which it is a hell of allot)

My suggestion is

"Increses your camouflage in foggy weather"
"Increses your camouflage in rainly weather"

This is ofcourse assuming the developers didn't actually put a "Skill" in the game that decreases your visablity during weather events....

[Sate]

Obviously it means it's harder for the animals to see you... doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out.

[Dume]

No it doesn't but that doesn't change the fact it's poorly worded, I know what it means, made obvious by my assumption at the end of my post.

[Dume]

Someone who isn't as with it or even someone who's younger may not actually understand what's ment by this, just because i can understand "That would be stupid it must mean this" some people are that stupid unfortunatly and the fact i have to say to myself "That would be stupid that can't be what it means" shows the fact that it's worded poorly and should be changed to correctly reflect what the skill actually does.

[nickweddup]

visi|bil¦ity
[vɪzɪˈbɪlɪti]

NOUN
the state of being able to see or be seen:
"a reduction in police presence and visibility on the streets"
synonyms: blatantness · flagrancy · obviousness · patentness · [more]

the distance one can see as determined by light and weather conditions:
"visibility was down to 15 yards"
synonyms: sight · perspective · field of vision · range of vision · [more]

the degree to which something has attracted general attention; prominence:
"the issue began to lose its visibility"
synonyms: fame · celebrity · eminence · pre-eminence · [more]

by that defintition which is easily googled by those of any age actualy their wording is correct and your your the one confused by the the english language?

[Dume]

"the distance one can see as determined by light and weather conditions"

Decreasing visibilty can be taken multipul ways and by your logic the perk would do both decrease your visablity to animals AND decrease your affective vision.

but let me guess i'm supposed to guess and take one of the deffinitions instead of having one clear description of what something does. because as it stands there's what, a 33.33% the perk is actually a negitive perk?.

This is indeed easy to google hence why i'm saying the description isn't clear, i've even changed the thread title to say "worded clearly" instead of "worded properly" as it's worded properly but not clearly.

[nickweddup]

Thats not my logic pup thats the google answer.... im no language expert but i do know the definition of "visibility" works both ways. seems to me like your kind of splitting hairs. The basic fact that its in the "perks" section would clearly suggest its leveling UP and has some sort of advantage/perk not disadvantage wouldnt it? even to a minor surely?

[nickweddup]

for the record i am by no means suggesting your age etc. but you did make the post about how somoene younger may not understand..... at the end of the day were playing an adult hunting simulator not lego pirates

[steven777]

Originally posted by Lost Pup:

Decreasing visibilty can be taken multipul ways and by your logic the perk would do both decrease your visablity to animals AND decrease your affective vision.
This is indeed easy to google hence why i'm saying the description isn't clear

affective
əˈfɛktɪv/Submit
adjectivePSYCHOLOGY
relating to moods, feelings, and attitudes.
denoting or relating to mental disorders in which disturbance of mood is the primary symptom.

Well that sums up the entire point of this thread.
Work on your own english first before you criticize something that is correct, proper and clear to those who can read, write and spell to begin with.

[Dume]

Originally posted by nickweddup:

Thats not my logic pup thats the google answer.... im no language expert but i do know the definition of "visibility" works both ways. seems to me like your kind of splitting hairs. The basic fact that its in the "perks" section would clearly suggest its leveling UP and has some sort of advantage/perk not disadvantage wouldnt it? even to a minor surely?

So you do agree as per the google deffinition of the word Visibilty, it can indeed be taken as a negitive perk.

I also find it funny that you're saying i'm "splitting hairs", do i need to remind this this is the "Thoughts and Suggestions" thread, it's kind of pretty clear in the title of this subsection this is exactly where this kind of thing is supposed to be.

Originally posted by steven777:

Originally posted by Lost Pup:

Decreasing visibilty can be taken multipul ways and by your logic the perk would do both decrease your visablity to animals AND decrease your affective vision.
This is indeed easy to google hence why i'm saying the description isn't clear

affective
əˈfɛktɪv/Submit
adjectivePSYCHOLOGY
relating to moods, feelings, and attitudes.
denoting or relating to mental disorders in which disturbance of mood is the primary symptom.

Well that sums up the entire point of this thread.
Work on your own english first before you criticize something that is correct, proper and clear to those who can read, write and spell to begin with.

Is this not the "Thoughts and Suggestions" thread?, I'm curious what exactly you're summing the point fo this thread upto be considering the point of it is to bring up something I felt wasn't exactly clear.


If anyone else feels the need to rip on me for putting my thoughts and suggestions into the "Thoughts and Suggestions" subfourm, please ♥♥♥♥ off and rip on people in General Discussions. Thank you.

[nickweddup]

Not trying to rip you at all, tried to make that quite clear but your suggestion appears to be trying to take a dig at the devs for something i cant personaly see as wrong (even if it is its a very very minor thing), hence you got my thoughts on the matter. I still havent seen a sensible suggestion for better wording, if im honest i think its an odd perk to start with!

[steven777]

Here's my thought and suggestion to you. If you want to be some kind of bizarre grammar nazi you need to be able to use correct english in your critique, that is a prerequisite for being taken seriously and not looking stupid. Still your reaction has entertained me while we wait for the Patch that will fix everything, so thank you.

[Dume]

Originally posted by nickweddup:

Not trying to rip you at all, tried to make that quite clear but your suggestion appears to be trying to take a dig at the devs for something i cant personaly see as wrong (even if it is its a very very minor thing), hence you got my thoughts on the matter. I still havent seen a sensible suggestion for better wording, if im honest i think its an odd perk to start with!

That part was directed at the pointlessness of Steven777, ripping on me for the use of the english language and doesn't even know how to capitalize hisown name.

I have many digs with the devs and they're laid out in other posts, I thought something could be improved so i pointed out (in the correct place) what i found and offered a much clearer suggestion for the developers. I'm curious how you think my suggestion of "Increses your camouflage in foggy weather" "Increses your camouflage in rainly weather" isn't suitable?.

[nickweddup]

At the end of the day this is the place for thoughts and discussions, as you said you have raised other issues, if people have other opinions you have to be prepared to take that also. This is a forum for a game, grammer/spelling is not the main topic here (if it is im screwed) From what i just read direct digs at the grammer in somones name is a bit irrelevant.

Your suggestion isnt to bad but also not 100% clear to everyone. To some increasing camo would suggest your actualy clothing bassed stealthness improves. Maybe the clearest way would be to call it "stealth" ie "your sleath increases when visibility is reduced by weather" even so i think its a minor thing on the scheme of what the devs are dealing with at this moment in time. Lets face it you have raised issues which are actual issues potentialy.

[Dume]

That's basically what happens though, in foggy and rainy enviroments you become harder to see aka camouflaged. it states what is being affected and when it's being affected, how it is now can mean it makes it harder for you to see where as "Increases camouflage when foggy/rainy"it states simply what happens, when it happens and I don't think my way could be misinterpretend, unless you have a better idea?.

also my dig at him for his name was because of his dig at my spelling/grammar.

[ThatAJGuy]

Originally posted by Dume:

The Ambusher skill "I'm only happy when it rains" states

"Decreases your visablity in foggy weather"
"Decreases your visablity in rainy weather"

These sound like very poor skills to take if they make it harder for you to see when it rains or is foggy (which it is a hell of allot)

My suggestion is

"Increses your camouflage in foggy weather"
"Increses your camouflage in rainly weather"

This is ofcourse assuming the developers didn't actually put a "Skill" in the game that decreases your visablity during weather events....

Hey, I know this is a post from years ago but it came up as my top result in Google. Thanks for clarifying that it decreases your ability to been seen and not your ability to see. I didn't imagine that they would make a skill decrease your abilities and it really could be worded better.