New player new game question

[max1195998]

I just started playing, I am playing Layton Lakes Map and I have a question. I watch a lot of videos, but I am still not sure of how this works in the game. I am currently going to the towers and the camps in the game to open up the map, and last night a black bear ran in front of me, and the info said 6 very hard, I didn't think it would be possible to track him and shoot him, I only have soft points, So, I am wondering, when I log off the game, does the 6 bear very hard stay on the map, or is he gone once I log off. Oh another thing does 6 very hard mean he is possibly a diamond.

[DarkFalz]

He’ll still be there when you come back. The only way an animal ever leaves your map is if you kill it yourself.

A level 6 bear won’t have any shot at making diamond and you’re right that your .243 wouldn’t be very effective against him. Stick to hunting deer and smaller game for the time being. Then once you have the 7mm unlocked, you can go back and get him.

I wrote up a beginner’s guide as well if you’re interested in taking a look. Hopefully you find it helpful:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3154024313

[max1195998]

Thank You, What a well written guide, and the answer about my bear. I guess I should have looked on here for guides instead of you tube videos.

[DarkFalz]

Originally posted by max1195998:

Thank You, What a well written guide, and the answer about my bear. I guess I should have looked on here for guides instead of you tube videos.

Thanks I'm glad you like it. There are some decent tutorials on Youtube but unfortunately a lot of them are kind of old now and not completely up to date with the current mechanics of the game. That's why I wrote the guide.

If you want someone to watch on Youtube for this game though then Flinter is my personal favorite. I think he makes the absolute best COTW videos and I learned a lot of what I know from him.

[Geronimo]

When you start a new map the animals are randomly dispersed, so every map is unique, although a species may only be found on specific parts of any map. For example, mountain goats near mountains.

Once your map is loaded every animal loaded with it will remain on that map until it is harvested from restart to restart.

However, each animal's individual statistics remain unchanged and will start refreshed upon a restart, meaning that any wounds are also wiped away. So the animals aren't really individual in that regard, just their stats.

Another important thing to keep in mind when trying to isolate specific individuals is that just because you happen to see one in one area doesn't mean you will see it in that same spot again. Most of the animals you will see, especially if you have not been moving very stealthily, will be animals that your movement through the area have spooked out of their usual habitat.

Many players spend alot of time and effort setting up to kill a trophy they encountered assuming they will see it there again. But the odds are that where they saw it was where it ran to after being spooked. And not the area it usually travels.

[Torkkar]

Originally posted by DarkFalz:

He’ll still be there when you come back. The only way an animal ever leaves your map is if you kill it yourself.

A level 6 bear won’t have any shot at making diamond and you’re right that your .243 wouldn’t be very effective against him. Stick to hunting deer and smaller game for the time being. Then once you have the 7mm unlocked, you can go back and get him.

your right the 7mm is good BUT for Layton Lakes and the rest of the base game the .270 Rifle is all you need most .270 bullets are rated for class 3 - 7 Animals Layton Lakes don't have any class 8 or 9 in my as of yet 69 hours on that map and apart from class 1's I've shot at least 1 of everything on that map.

so the break down here are the animals of note from smallest to largest so if your targets of similar size its in that class:

Class 1: Birds, and Rabbits

Class 2: Red Fox, Coyote

Class 3: Ferral goats, Lynx, Prong horn Antelope,

Class 4: Warthog, WhiteTail Deer, Kangaroo (most Deer and Large goats are here too)

Class 5: Most Pigs, Mule Deer, and smaller end of Big cats

Class 6: Wolves, Red Deer, All Caribou, Large Antelope

Class 7: Most Bear's, Gators, and Elk Deer

Class 8: Moose, Salt Water Crocodile, Grizzly Bear (there's only 3 here)

Class 9: Tiger's Lions and EVERYTHING ELSE is here

so from this just use some logic and you can predicts what your going to need as stated though the .270 handles the BULK of the animals in the game and is a good all-round mid ranged gun, I'd Recommend a good Shotgun 10ga if you can as there have 3 ammo types Bird shot for Class 1 only, Buckshot for class 2 and up, Slug rounds for 7 and 8 (no Spread) and either a bow or Pistol as a Light weight alternative this setup can get you clearing missions to afford one of those BIG guns to handle Class 9's

and IF you need cash fast I'd recommend 4 DLC's to help you out the 3 dog DLC's as these guys have skills to help you out, Immensely, and a Waterfowl/goose hunting pack as these with a retriever 20 decoys, a waterfowl blind and a Good Pump action shotgun can net you some good cash fairly fast as you can often down multiple targets at once you can max out a retriever in an hour or so.

happy hunting

[DarkFalz]

Originally posted by Torkkar:

your right the 7mm is good BUT for Layton Lakes and the rest of the base game the .270 Rifle is all you need most .270 bullets are rated for class 3 - 7 Animals Layton Lakes don't have any class 8 or 9 in my as of yet 69 hours on that map and apart from class 1's I've shot at least 1 of everything on that map.

so the break down here are the animals of note from smallest to largest so if your targets of similar size its in that class:

Class 1: Birds, and Rabbits

Class 2: Red Fox, Coyote

Class 3: Ferral goats, Lynx, Prong horn Antelope,

Class 4: Warthog, WhiteTail Deer, Kangaroo (most Deer and Large goats are here too)

Class 5: Most Pigs, Mule Deer, and smaller end of Big cats

Class 6: Wolves, Red Deer, All Caribou, Large Antelope

Class 7: Most Bear's, Gators, and Elk Deer

Class 8: Moose, Salt Water Crocodile, Grizzly Bear (there's only 3 here)

Class 9: Tiger's Lions and EVERYTHING ELSE is here

so from this just use some logic and you can predicts what your going to need as stated though the .270 handles the BULK of the animals in the game and is a good all-round mid ranged gun, I'd Recommend a good Shotgun 10ga if you can as there have 3 ammo types Bird shot for Class 1 only, Buckshot for class 2 and up, Slug rounds for 7 and 8 (no Spread) and either a bow or Pistol as a Light weight alternative this setup can get you clearing missions to afford one of those BIG guns to handle Class 9's

and IF you need cash fast I'd recommend 4 DLC's to help you out the 3 dog DLC's as these guys have skills to help you out, Immensely, and a Waterfowl/goose hunting pack as these with a retriever 20 decoys, a waterfowl blind and a Good Pump action shotgun can net you some good cash fairly fast as you can often down multiple targets at once you can max out a retriever in an hour or so.

happy hunting

The .270 is ethical for classes 4-8. You're probably thinking of the Solokhin MN1890 which is ethical for classes 3-7. And there is one class 8 species on Layton which is the moose. No class 9 animals however.

I wouldn't really recommend the .270 for almost anything above class 6 though since it's kind of lacking in power and unless you can consistently hit the heart, you'll be spending a lot of time tracking your kills. For class 7 and 8 animals, you're much better off with the 7mm.

That's not to say the .270 is bad at all. It's actually one of my favorite rifles. But the sheer versatility and power of the 7mm really shouldn't be overlooked.

[kr1eg]

For Layton, I am enjoying the 6.5mm a lot more. 200m effective range and I'm finding the animals run a lot less when I hit them with it in a vital spot.

[Geronimo]

Originally posted by kr1eg:

For Layton, I am enjoying the 6.5mm a lot more. 200m effective range and I'm finding the animals run a lot less when I hit them with it in a vital spot.

Got a double lung broadside on whitetail at 250 yards with 6.5 mm yesterday.

I wouldn't use the 270 as it always entails alot more lengthy tracking sessions of wounded animals.

That Mosin 7.62 mm is a fine weapon for deer and does have good range.

[max1195998]

Thanks for all the information, and the class animal list. Well with the winter sale I bought all DLC, It looks like there is a lot of new stuff, I am still using the base game things right now, I am now able to buy polymer ammo for the .243, I guess my goal is the 7mm, and some gun for birds. I am really enjoying this game, currently I am doing the missions on Layton Lake. Thanks again for the help and suggestions.

[Torkkar]

Originally posted by DarkFalz:

Originally posted by Torkkar:

your right the 7mm is good BUT for Layton Lakes and the rest of the base game the .270 Rifle is all you need most .270 bullets are rated for class 3 - 7 Animals Layton Lakes don't have any class 8 or 9 in my as of yet 69 hours on that map and apart from class 1's I've shot at least 1 of everything on that map.

so the break down here are the animals of note from smallest to largest so if your targets of similar size its in that class:

Class 1: Birds, and Rabbits

Class 2: Red Fox, Coyote

Class 3: Ferral goats, Lynx, Prong horn Antelope,

Class 4: Warthog, WhiteTail Deer, Kangaroo (most Deer and Large goats are here too)

Class 5: Most Pigs, Mule Deer, and smaller end of Big cats

Class 6: Wolves, Red Deer, All Caribou, Large Antelope

Class 7: Most Bear's, Gators, and Elk Deer

Class 8: Moose, Salt Water Crocodile, Grizzly Bear (there's only 3 here)

Class 9: Tiger's Lions and EVERYTHING ELSE is here

so from this just use some logic and you can predicts what your going to need as stated though the .270 handles the BULK of the animals in the game and is a good all-round mid ranged gun, I'd Recommend a good Shotgun 10ga if you can as there have 3 ammo types Bird shot for Class 1 only, Buckshot for class 2 and up, Slug rounds for 7 and 8 (no Spread) and either a bow or Pistol as a Light weight alternative this setup can get you clearing missions to afford one of those BIG guns to handle Class 9's

and IF you need cash fast I'd recommend 4 DLC's to help you out the 3 dog DLC's as these guys have skills to help you out, Immensely, and a Waterfowl/goose hunting pack as these with a retriever 20 decoys, a waterfowl blind and a Good Pump action shotgun can net you some good cash fairly fast as you can often down multiple targets at once you can max out a retriever in an hour or so.

happy hunting

The .270 is ethical for classes 4-8. You're probably thinking of the Solokhin MN1890 which is ethical for classes 3-7. And there is one class 8 species on Layton which is the moose. No class 9 animals however.

I wouldn't really recommend the .270 for almost anything above class 6 though since it's kind of lacking in power and unless you can consistently hit the heart, you'll be spending a lot of time tracking your kills. For class 7 and 8 animals, you're much better off with the 7mm.

That's not to say the .270 is bad at all. It's actually one of my favorite rifles. But the sheer versatility and power of the 7mm really shouldn't be overlooked.

Very true the 7mm is nice but here's my Layton Lake load out:

.270 Stradivarius, Rifle Hyperion scope Polymer Bullets for penetration Class 3-8
Pump action shotgun 20ga or 12ga for Birds and "OH CRAP" too close moments (none on Layton apart from getting trampled by deer, Elk, or Moose)

.45 Pistol or the RHINO hand CANNON as back up if I'm not bow training.

Bloodhound with Tracker/pointer or Pointer with Pointer/Tracker jobs.

the other reason I say .270 over 7mm is this guy says he's a new hunter and the .270 is either Cheep for the level or its got a free version and not unlocked with skills or need money to get, and on Layton its got the majority covered with soft tips though on Elk, Bears, and Moose with soft tips your going to need double lungs or Heart shots, but for the deer .270 Dominates them.

I would recommend upgrading to a 7mm or a .300 asap for any maps with large bodied 7-9's like the cows on the Australia map or Crocs (same map)

but again Happy hunting

[max1195998]

What... Wait the animals can attack me. I like your load out list, my scope right now is not the best, can I use the handgun for protection or is the shotgun better?. I guess right now I have some money, but I lack rifle score. Thanks again.

[dbond1]

Since you have all the DLC, consider carrying the Cuomo handgun. It's a scoped .243 that works nicely for the classes the .243 handles. This will boost your handgun score and free up a little weight in your loadout.

[DarkFalz]

Originally posted by max1195998:

What... Wait the animals can attack me. I like your load out list, my scope right now is not the best, can I use the handgun for protection or is the shotgun better?. I guess right now I have some money, but I lack rifle score. Thanks again.

Yep you can get attacked. It happens to me all the time when I'm hunting on Vurhonga or Sunderpatan. Those buffaloes and yaks are more dangerous than lions and tigers a lot of the time.

I'd go with a handgun over a shotgun for close range defense. Shotguns can get the job done but aren't all that effective against larger animals even at close range.

Alternatively, you can also just pop the scope off your rifle by pressing middle mouse and that can work for close range defense as well.

[max1195998]

Well, I looked at my store last night, and I can get a free .270, with soft points. I think there was a better scope also, not sure. I still carry my .243, because I have Polymer ammo, and I got that Rhino pistol, but did not put the scope on it so I could get a quick aim if or when something attacks me. I am currently doing Cheelah Lake coyote mission, I have a lot of purple in Ballmont, so I thought I better go to Cheelah. I called a Coyote in last night, I heard him, and before I found him, I got the message fleeing, and looked and the darn wind was blowing right at him.

[Evil Ways]

If you just started you shouldn't be too worried about any of this. Walk around, learn the map, find good spots for later. Take note of what walks when and where as that is the best way NOT to burn zones later in the game.
Paint the map PINK... and probably do so till you are lvl 30.
Everything isn't set in stone... you can burn zones and once the hunting pressure goes away new stuff will spawn, maybe even better stuff.
You are going to randomly get diamond anyways. Few and far between but you will still get them just randomly.
I restart all the time, find diamonds all the time just walking about leveling painting the map pink. Heard management is for much later when you are higher level and more capable and its easier.
and eventually you will have all the other maps too.

Some of the sparseness of the animals in the beginning is due to the Story line (bears). Once you start doing the stories and exploring the map the animals fill out the map as they do travel really far, from district to district.

Its easier to start with the Drink Zones and then work out to the Feed Zones and Rest Zones. You can actually tag the little buggers between these zones as to not burn them later on in the game when you are higher.