I understand now why people log thousands of hours in this game

[Gelfan_Dothea]

$800 for 10 rounds
$4,000 for dog treats
$12,000 for a fanny pack
$40,000 for a damn rifle

I had to hunt for four hours just to buy my dog a milk-bone, which I could have purchased from the Dollar Store for $2. I understand inflation is higher in remote locations, but someone really needs to call the FTC. I'm surprised the developers don't make us drop $6,000 per gallon to use our ATV. And that's another thing, I have to pay $350 to sleep in my own f--king tent? Seriously?

And of course to earn money you have to kill animals, but it takes 30 minutes to spot one, 10 minutes to sneak up on it, 20 minutes to find it again after it gets spooked from 800 meters away, and 45 minutes to track it (with a bloodhound) after you've put $400 worth of bullets through its skull and a$$. Repeat this three times and you can afford to replenish the 20 rounds you wasted on shooting the animal from 1000 yards half a dozen times. Maybe even have enough left over to take a nap.

This isn't rant. This is actually the best game I've played in a long time. But some of the mechanics are just laughable. I've logged over 50 hours already and have $9,000 and some some dog treats to show for it hahahaha.....


Side Note: I don't even bother tracking the animals anymore if it's not a vital organ hit. I feel bad, because I know the animal is going to die eventually, but I just don't have the patience for that nonsense. Besides, I typically have to pass up several spotted animals just keep following the blood trail, so it's a waste all around. What I really need is a military grade .50 cal sniper rifle that will (literally) blow the guts out of anything a shoot. I purchased the military guns DLC, and that's a joke. Comes with an M-16, which the game says can only shoot pellets at small game. These rifles use 5.56mm ball ammo. WTF!!

[SouthernMan1972]

Aren't 5.56 and .223 the same caliber? Maybe 5.56 is just for military use. That rifle in the game is meant for varmints like foxes and coyotes, and small deer (class 2-4).

Stay away from headshots. Go for lungs from the side whenever possible. You can go for the heart too, but it's easy to miss even with experience.

You should check the wiki page for this game. There's a lot of information about the class system, and the harvest requirements that might help you make more money with your kills.

[Gelfan_Dothea]

Originally posted by SouthernMan1972:

Aren't 5.56 and .223 the same caliber? Maybe 5.56 is just for military use.

Had to look it up. According to the info they are virtually the same, which leaves me even more puzzled. I'm not a hunter, but I was a soldier. I've seen what a 5.56 NATO will do to a body (it's insane). Absolutely no reason you shouldn't be able to easily take down a bear with one. But as you said, it's not really an M-16, so maybe that makes a difference.

In any case, two more years and I'll be able to buy the .50 cal ammo :)

[FurryFailure]

I feel the same way. This game is not at all like i remembered it in 2018.

I often find myself being afraid to use certain weapons or doing big game hunting because i might lose more than i can make, and it feels like i never make money, i do, but its very slow.

I do try to hunt carefully and patiently, but sometimes the ballistics tells me to F off.

Every so often i go on boring budget hunts to make some money, but it doesnt seem to last long, espeically when using sprays, which are 1.5k and 3k per 10.

I remember money being twice as easy as this back when i first played, animals werent as sensitive, and they were much more vocal.

I to love this game, but I'm i denial about not having fun like i use to.

I really dont understand why this game is so grindy, at the very least, they should halve the price on Scents, Ammo, and Consumables.
I'm fine with the trophies costing so much, since it is a nice money sink, but Ammo and Tools shouldnt be apart of a money sink.

[AlaskanSurvivalist]

Just got done running bison down on an ATV for an hour and made $30,000. Just chase them hop off shoot them with the 470 nitro or M1. Easy money. Super easy.

[Gelfan_Dothea]

Actually, I think I just solved the mystery. They price everything so expensive, and make it near impossible to obtain, so you'll buy the DLCs. Should have figured that one out sooner (face-palm)

I'm not going to say they're stupid for doing it, because it works. I bought them.

[Kills=Skill]

Just kill. I use to worry about money and saved here and there but you will find animals by walking and just shooting. Lakes are a great spot as well to see animals.

Red deer are good in price too. About 1400-1500 a deer.

[florble mcfumperdink]

Originally posted by Gelfan_Dothea:

Originally posted by SouthernMan1972:

Aren't 5.56 and .223 the same caliber? Maybe 5.56 is just for military use.

Had to look it up. According to the info they are virtually the same, which leaves me even more puzzled. I'm not a hunter, but I was a soldier. I've seen what a 5.56 NATO will do to a body (it's insane). Absolutely no reason you shouldn't be able to easily take down a bear with one. But as you said, it's not really an M-16, so maybe that makes a difference.

In any case, two more years and I'll be able to buy the .50 cal ammo :)

I should point out that, while 5.56 is a disturbingly powerful round despite being an intermediate cartridge, bears have been known to take hits from .338 magnums to the lungs and survive long enough to run 200 yards across a meadow or valley and fatally maul the person that shot them. Bears are, in fact, built different. Like, walking block of tungsten kind of different.

Edit: Also, .223 cartidges have lighter powder loads, lower pressures, shorter casings, and do less damage overall when compared to 5.56. However, the reduced damage compared to 5.56 is due to the fact that 5.56 has a nasty habit of not only tumbling through soft tissues, but often times the jacket will separate from the core with both objects going in two separate directions and fragmenting even further to cause more damage. .223, to my knowledge, does not do this, resulting in significantly decreased damage.

[sneakybass]

Originally posted by Gelfan_Dothea:

Originally posted by SouthernMan1972:

Aren't 5.56 and .223 the same caliber? Maybe 5.56 is just for military use.

Had to look it up. According to the info they are virtually the same, which leaves me even more puzzled. I'm not a hunter, but I was a soldier. I've seen what a 5.56 NATO will do to a body (it's insane). Absolutely no reason you shouldn't be able to easily take down a bear with one. But as you said, it's not really an M-16, so maybe that makes a difference.

In any case, two more years and I'll be able to buy the .50 cal ammo :)

Your still a new player need to relax this game does having a learning curve and making money Is so easy kill some ducks and It adds up In no time. Even just playing the game I get more than enough for all Items and I use a bow and a shot gun . I think the 7mm knocks everything down a lot better and the 270. You just need to learn how to use your time better and get more kills. Best of luck to you.

[sneakybass]

Ducks at layton set a blind up and the duck areas and the money flows In . I have a few picks of dead ducks I shot 50 to 100 ducks dead you would think they died of a bird flu lol.....be back up to 100,000 In no time and getting all your gear In record time.I don't even do that anymore kill enough to get everthing I need.

[florble mcfumperdink]

Originally posted by Gelfan_Dothea:

Actually, I think I just solved the mystery. They price everything so expensive, and make it near impossible to obtain, so you'll buy the DLCs. Should have figured that one out sooner (face-palm)

I'm not going to say they're stupid for doing it, because it works. I bought them.

Things are only expensive from a new player's POV. Someone in the late game like myself sees anything 80K and under as cheap, because we've mastered the learning curve and can crack 200 grand in an afternoon.

[sneakybass]

Originally posted by florble mcfumperdink:

Originally posted by Gelfan_Dothea:

Actually, I think I just solved the mystery. They price everything so expensive, and make it near impossible to obtain, so you'll buy the DLCs. Should have figured that one out sooner (face-palm)

I'm not going to say they're stupid for doing it, because it works. I bought them.

Things are only expensive from a new player's POV. Someone in the late game like myself sees anything 80K and under as cheap, because we've mastered the learning curve and can crack 200 grand in an afternoon.

Your right money does not mean a thing kill animals you buy stuff , most times I have less than 80,000 more than enough for my lighted arrows lol and shot gun shells...

[florble mcfumperdink]

Originally posted by sneakybass:

Originally posted by florble mcfumperdink:

Things are only expensive from a new player's POV. Someone in the late game like myself sees anything 80K and under as cheap, because we've mastered the learning curve and can crack 200 grand in an afternoon.

Your right money does not mean a thing kill animals you buy stuff , most times I have less than 80,000 more than enough for my lighted arrows lol and shot gun shells...

Bow hunting anything and going after fowl are probably the most lucrative options quickly followed by hunting predators like bears, bobcats, lynx, coyotes, foxes, and so forth. Once you get into a solid rhythm the cash flow is insane.

[Nero]

Originally posted by SouthernMan1972:

Aren't 5.56 and .223 the same caliber? Maybe 5.56 is just for military use. That rifle in the game is meant for varmints like foxes and coyotes, and small deer (class 2-4).

Stay away from headshots. Go for lungs from the side whenever possible. You can go for the heart too, but it's easy to miss even with experience.

You should check the wiki page for this game. There's a lot of information about the class system, and the harvest requirements that might help you make more money with your kills.

.223 and 5.56 look the same and you can actually shoot a .223 in a 5.56 chambered rifle

but the 5.56 is a "Hotter" round (meaning it creates more pressure)
.223 has around 54.000 PSI
5.56 has 58.000 PSI

Its may work a couple times but the time it doesnt it will blow your barrel and receiver apart.

[Death Bunny]

Originally posted by SouthernMan1972:

Aren't 5.56 and .223 the same caliber? Maybe 5.56 is just for military use. That rifle in the game is meant for varmints like foxes and coyotes, and small deer (class 2-4).

Stay away from headshots. Go for lungs from the side whenever possible. You can go for the heart too, but it's easy to miss even with experience.

You should check the wiki page for this game. There's a lot of information about the class system, and the harvest requirements that might help you make more money with your kills.

as a new player trying to figure out game mechanics, why avoid the headshot? is it due to the much smaller target area or is it because the game doesn't treat headshots as a critical hits etc?

[Gelfan_Dothea]

Originally posted by Death Bunny:

as a new player trying to figure out game mechanics, why avoid the headshot? is it due to the much smaller target area or is it because the game doesn't treat headshots as a critical hits etc?

Over half of my kills are head shots. It's the only thing that will drop an animal instantly. Have to use high penetration ammo.