The Hunter: Call of the Wild and the AR15 DLC’s children killer gun

[Muty Ny]

The Hunter: Call of the wild and the AR15 DLC’s children killer gun

I was reluctant about purchasing a hunting game. I love animals and I don’t like their suffering. The Hunter changed my mind about hunting. It gave me a new perspective of ecosystem regulation and showed me the difference between culling and killing as it penalises the later and rewards the quick animal death. I learned how important it can be to balance the predator’s dominance over it’s prey and vice versa. But then came the AR15 DLC to change that all.
I am a convicted atheist after being raised to be a catholic and believed for many years that death was just a passage to a new stage of existence. How wrong I was. Life is the existence so death put the end to it and killing is the ultimate serious act.
We are the consequence of many causes that allowed us to live but that does not mean we are not important. We evolved as our fellow animals in a struggle for survival and we’ve reached a position of dominance. Such status also brings a huge responsibility: we can outbalance our ecosystem if we wrongly use our human power.
The Hunter was a delicious surprise on using the power we achieved for a balanced ecosystem, promoting regulation over killing spree through a campaign story showing that culling is not killing. It rejected animal suffering by the use of traps and rewarded the quick ending by accuracy rather than power. My respect for that kind of hunting grew and this game, although it’s only a game, was simulating that to the perfection.
Then came a DLC which introduced the AR15 as a hunting gun. That was and still is disgusting!
How could they try to mask a killing machine as a hunting weapon? That gun lost the contest to be the US armed forces weapon to kill humans, not to hunt. That weapon is the prefered weapon of mass shooters, of children killing massacres. That DLC only tried to wipe the AR15’s reputation as a “clean” gun. It tries top make us forget the splattered brains of children in their school rooms. That I won’t forget. The AR15 was NEVER designed to be a hunting gun but a murderous gun even if in a war context.
I was so disgusted that I stoped playing the game. I was playing a game that gave money to a company using a murder weapon as a mean of earning money. It has been almost two years since I stopped playing The Hunter with the horrific imagination of not only children but people being killed, not culled, with that gun.
Should I care about Americans being slaughtered with the AR15? Americans don’t seem to, at least a vast portion of them. So why should I stop playing a game that promotes a murder gun and enriches a software company? Maybe Americans deserve it? Maybe they deserve to live in fear of their children to be slaughtered with less pity and concern as we as hunters give to a wildebeest. Maybe the developers of “The Hunter: Call of the Wild” care more about their wallets than all the humans assassinated by the gun they so subtly try to clean of horrific reputation.
Should I also not care about 3rd graders being killed with AR15 or other weapons?
Who cares about Americans anyway, right? The developers don’t, so it seems… so let’s have fun playing while other get rich over horrors. Yes?

[Muty Ny]

plnteclipse lähetti viestin:

Muty Ny lähetti viestin:

Thank you for you reply.

Please can you tell me if you believe the producers of “The Hunter: Call of the wild” used the reputation of the game to clear the gun from its fame or not and how do you justify your opinion?

Thank you.

I'm not sure how any human could rationalize it that way, and assume you mean to say "infamy", judging from your perspective.

EW made the wise decision to be unbiased by implementing armalite style rifles. Your question implies they may have created the DLC with the intention of removing some artificial stigma and "converting" minds in hopes the DLC would become popular, or maybe would somehow desensitize individuals into violence. The former implication is backwards thinking from a business sense, and the latter is just absurd. EW no doubt does their research and of course polls to determine what is popular and will likely sell.

The simple answer is EW wants to generate content, and thus profitability to support their game and livelihood. As far as what content gets added, the only logical constraints should be is said content used in the real practice of hunting in an ethical, lawful manner, and is it popular enough that people will buy it. In regards to the DLC in question, both are true. Catering to emotions and biases will only serve to kill the game.

Thank you for your reply. I think you are using rationality to answer my question so I definitely am taking it in consideration. I just wish the producers release a statement confirming what you wrote but at least I have another plausible explanation for the righteousness of this DLC.

Again, thank you.

[Muty Ny]

FPCGreat Bapu Cheese(velk.ca lähetti viestin:

good lord this is barely even worth responding to.

listen man, you said you were an atheist right? i'm gonna say two things and get outta your way.

first of all, what's wrong with murder?

What is wrong with murder??? How disgusting is your answer! What if you were murdered wouldn't it be totally wrong even if have little conscience of your words an seem to be out of your mind? I wish you to live and learn to respect life.
It's because I am an atheist that I know that life is UNIQUE and we need to respect it because there won't be anymore.

I am blocking you since I don't want to read anymore from someone who thinks like that.

[Muty Ny]

Yard-Dog® lähetti viestin:

All guns are dangerous, but it's the user that decides how it's used. The type of gun, in and of itself, is not something to get worked up about. Yes, the AR style weapons in COTW are more efficient as semi-automatics, but it's the ethics of the shooter (both in-game and in real life) that bear the burden...not the gun.

Thank you for your participation.
I agree with you that the user makes the tool dangerous or not.
Still the availability of means and reasons make possible a tragedy, but this would be a discussion on if guns should be permitted to the public or not. That is not my question here.
For instance, here in Europe, sulphuric and nitric acid amongst other chemical substances have been forbidden because some criminals used it to blind people or to manufacture explosives used in terrorism. I miss sulphuric acid to clean unclog my drain pipes but if this prohibition increases safety, then I accept it and find another way to solve my problems.
But this is how we generally think in Europe: more freedom may mean less security. If other countries think otherwise they are in their right.

My question is this one:
Please can answer me if you believe the producers of “The Hunter: Call of the wild” used the reputation of the game to clear the gun from its fame or not and how do you justify your opinion?

Thank you.

[TheOldMan]

Muty Ny lähetti viestin:

DopaTrain lähetti viestin:

Same way you discourage drink driving I guess. Arrest and punish people who drink and drive. Don't encourage it in the first place by not making games that glorify drink driving but still make games with cars.

By punishing people who use guns to kill innocent people.
By not making games that glorify killing innocent people with guns but still make games with guns.

I mean if someone used a truck to run over lots of innocent people you wouldn't get on to eurotruck simulator saying how disgusted you are that they have a volvo DLC. You need to get on to the person who ran the people over and tell them how disgusted you are that they ran lots of people over. The type of truck is irrelevant.

Stopping people from buying virtual volvos isn't going to stop people being run over by trucks. Plus selling virtual volvos doesn't encourage truck related terror attacks.

That's a good reasoning.
Just one question to you if I may: do you truly believe the devs introduced the AR-15 in the game because it is a hunting gun or do you think they are profiting from it with other motivations?
Thank you truly for your contribution.

The round the AR-15 in this game uses is strictly a hunting round. I have 2 AR-15's One is a AR-15 pistol that uses the .300 Blackout round, i use it for cyote's and hogs, and for self defense for my home. My AR-15 rifle is chambered for the .300 magnum, and it takes down deer like butter, i have also gotten 3 Black Bear with it over the years. I use to use a 30-06, but the kick and muzzle drift was insane for my shoulder.

The AR-15 is a fantastic hunting rifle, and can be custom chambered for just about any big game hunting round on the planet. I will never give mine up for hunting irl, no matter what any politician says.

[florble mcfumperdink]

Neoslayyer2 lähetti viestin:

Muty Ny lähetti viestin:

That's a good reasoning.
Just one question to you if I may: do you truly believe the devs introduced the AR-15 in the game because it is a hunting gun or do you think they are profiting from it with other motivations?
Thank you truly for your contribution.

The round the AR-15 in this game uses is strictly a hunting round. I have 2 AR-15's One is a AR-15 pistol that uses the .300 Blackout round, i use it for cyote's and hogs, and for self defense for my home. My AR-15 rifle is chambered for the .300 magnum, and it takes down deer like butter, i have also gotten 3 Black Bear with it over the years. I use to use a 30-06, but the kick and muzzle drift was insane for my shoulder.

The AR-15 is a fantastic hunting rifle, and can be custom chambered for just about any big game hunting round on the planet. I will never give mine up for hunting irl, no matter what any politician says.

Yo I don't mean to barge in or anything but this is kindof a necro. Three months of separation and all.

Edit: Also this thread is a complete nuclear wasteland. Glad university kept me from seeing this until now....

Edit 2: Also also... Reading that bottom third of the original post again...

---- "Should I care about Americans being slaughtered with the AR15? Americans don’t seem to, at least a vast portion of them. So why should I stop playing a game that promotes a murder gun and enriches a software company? Maybe Americans deserve it? Maybe they deserve to live in fear of their children to be slaughtered with less pity and concern as we as hunters give to a wildebeest. " ----

.... gives me some serious unnerving vibes. This dude needs his head checked.

Dude is trying to take the high ground while nearing the apathy and mental instability of Nikolas Cruz...

Glad this guy's in Europe where firearms are less obtainable, because it seems like he'd be a hazard with a butter knife, let alone a rifle.

Edit 3: This is the last one but holy conspiracy theory batman!!! Somebody who frames a four U.S. dollar DLC in a hunting game as a global digital psyop to somehow "whitewash" a firearm's reputation and normalize school shootings is seriously unstable.

[florble mcfumperdink]

Muty Ny lähetti viestin:

The Hunter: Call of the wild and the AR15 DLC’s children killer gun

I was reluctant about purchasing a hunting game. I love animals and I don’t like their suffering. The Hunter changed my mind about hunting. It gave me a new perspective of ecosystem regulation and showed me the difference between culling and killing as it penalises the later and rewards the quick animal death. I learned how important it can be to balance the predator’s dominance over it’s prey and vice versa. But then came the AR15 DLC to change that all.
I am a convicted atheist after being raised to be a catholic and believed for many years that death was just a passage to a new stage of existence. How wrong I was. Life is the existence so death put the end to it and killing is the ultimate serious act.
We are the consequence of many causes that allowed us to live but that does not mean we are not important. We evolved as our fellow animals in a struggle for survival and we’ve reached a position of dominance. Such status also brings a huge responsibility: we can outbalance our ecosystem if we wrongly use our human power.
The Hunter was a delicious surprise on using the power we achieved for a balanced ecosystem, promoting regulation over killing spree through a campaign story showing that culling is not killing. It rejected animal suffering by the use of traps and rewarded the quick ending by accuracy rather than power. My respect for that kind of hunting grew and this game, although it’s only a game, was simulating that to the perfection.
Then came a DLC which introduced the AR15 as a hunting gun. That was and still is disgusting!
How could they try to mask a killing machine as a hunting weapon? That gun lost the contest to be the US armed forces weapon to kill humans, not to hunt. That weapon is the prefered weapon of mass shooters, of children killing massacres. That DLC only tried to wipe the AR15’s reputation as a “clean” gun. It tries top make us forget the splattered brains of children in their school rooms. That I won’t forget. The AR15 was NEVER designed to be a hunting gun but a murderous gun even if in a war context.
I was so disgusted that I stoped playing the game. I was playing a game that gave money to a company using a murder weapon as a mean of earning money. It has been almost two years since I stopped playing The Hunter with the horrific imagination of not only children but people being killed, not culled, with that gun.
Should I care about Americans being slaughtered with the AR15? Americans don’t seem to, at least a vast portion of them. So why should I stop playing a game that promotes a murder gun and enriches a software company? Maybe Americans deserve it? Maybe they deserve to live in fear of their children to be slaughtered with less pity and concern as we as hunters give to a wildebeest. Maybe the developers of “The Hunter: Call of the Wild” care more about their wallets than all the humans assassinated by the gun they so subtly try to clean of horrific reputation.
Should I also not care about 3rd graders being killed with AR15 or other weapons?
Who cares about Americans anyway, right? The developers don’t, so it seems… so let’s have fun playing while other get rich over horrors. Yes?

Being this hardline against the AR-15 while being totally fine with the M1 and the Mosin, rifles that have probably been used to kill more people than there have been cancer fatalities in the last century, is possibly the most unstable take on anything that I have ever seen.

[The Sarge]

If you're a real person, shouldn't you be at a pro Hamas rally throwing a tantrum about things you know absolutely nothing about and disrupting the lives of ordinary people trying to just get on with their lives?

[𝄃𝄂𝄂𝄀𝄁𝄃𝄂𝄂]

another confused drugged one, nothing to see here folks.

tip : don't make kids. go outside, take a breath, read an old history book (i belive you don't have that anymore in schools, like analog clocks because you can't read them), ITS JUST A GAME.

fyi m1 garand made more victims than your TV and social media t/w/a/t imagination for the ar15. and going further....arrows made more victims that any weapon invented. i don't get the point...but that happens when i read or talk with sjw drugged confused people, i lose for sure. im near the warzone and i can tell you this is a game (belive it or not), real life doesn't care if its a branch, a zastava or a knife. Come join us and tell them this.

[TheOldMan]

florble mcfumperdink lähetti viestin:

Neoslayyer2 lähetti viestin:

The round the AR-15 in this game uses is strictly a hunting round. I have 2 AR-15's One is a AR-15 pistol that uses the .300 Blackout round, i use it for cyote's and hogs, and for self defense for my home. My AR-15 rifle is chambered for the .300 magnum, and it takes down deer like butter, i have also gotten 3 Black Bear with it over the years. I use to use a 30-06, but the kick and muzzle drift was insane for my shoulder.

The AR-15 is a fantastic hunting rifle, and can be custom chambered for just about any big game hunting round on the planet. I will never give mine up for hunting irl, no matter what any politician says.

Yo I don't mean to barge in or anything but this is kindof a necro. Three months of separation and all.

Edit: Also this thread is a complete nuclear wasteland. Glad university kept me from seeing this until now....

Edit 2: Also also... Reading that bottom third of the original post again...

---- "Should I care about Americans being slaughtered with the AR15? Americans don’t seem to, at least a vast portion of them. So why should I stop playing a game that promotes a murder gun and enriches a software company? Maybe Americans deserve it? Maybe they deserve to live in fear of their children to be slaughtered with less pity and concern as we as hunters give to a wildebeest. " ----

.... gives me some serious unnerving vibes. This dude needs his head checked.

Dude is trying to take the high ground while nearing the apathy and mental instability of Nikolas Cruz...

Glad this guy's in Europe where firearms are less obtainable, because it seems like he'd be a hazard with a butter knife, let alone a rifle.

Edit 3: This is the last one but holy conspiracy theory batman!!! Somebody who frames a four U.S. dollar DLC in a hunting game as a global digital psyop to somehow "whitewash" a firearm's reputation and normalize school shootings is seriously unstable.

Sorry bout thast, i did not see the date on it until i posted my reply. Thought about deleting it, but i just had to get that off my chest lol.

[Gringo loco]

i shot more than 5000 animals at least in 2k + hours of gameplay... I am a pixel real pixelkiller! This STEAM ... so that means to take over this chat for political statements sucks ... The topic here is COTW folks !!!

[Gringo loco]

yogisgoat lähetti viestin:

Don't be misled. Muty Ny is a chatbot launched here to tweak hunters. Read the posts carefully. At best it's somebody making small changes to a chatbot's output to try to obscure the fact. You said it yourself, Kaned Dragon: Don't feed the trolls.

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[Skooma Addict]

Lol great bait OP real smooth brain moment (did you know AR stands for Assault Rifle? Crazy really)

[Sh4rk]

"My question is this one:
Please can answer me if you believe the producers of “The Hunter: Call of the wild” used the reputation of the game to clear the gun from its fame or not and how do you justify your opinion?

Thank you."

I will take the liberty in answering your question since most people arent aswering it.

The answer is simple: no, they aint using the game to clean the gun's bad rep. its just a gun

The AR-15 is another gun.. and its in the position it is because your criminal with money aint gonna waste his money on buying a pistol and go john-wicking around in schools. It's also the most common rifle/assault rifle in the USA.. so of COURSE its gonna be used in such a role. if europe had the liberty of buying weapons like this and had school shootings and all this garbage here, it would have been other guns like the AK, and other rifles. AK does NOT look good in a hunting situation, and AR-15 as stated by a lot of users in this thread, its just a good rifle for hunting
Your playing a game.. the fact that you think that the developers are using the popularity of their game to clean up the bad rep that the gun has earned (due to its accessibility in the USA for criminals) is something else entirely. And people have also asked for this gun to be added to the game due to its usage in real life hunting.
So accept the fact that its a gun, in a game. other guns have been used for the same thing... dont want to drive you mad BUT there is also a Glock 40 in the game, same reason for addition in to the game. People wanted it.
And remember one single thing... every weapon was made for war... not for civillian hands
The fact that weapons have been adapted for civillians is something else ENTIRELY

So final answer: The developers of theHunter Call of the Wild are NOT using the reputation of the game to clear the AR-15's infamy. Its been added because of its use in real-life hunting, and community request.


I also suggest you to lock this thread after you read and (Maybe) reply to my answer.
I dont know if you might get banned but since you mentioned stuff about religion and etc. you started quite a controversial thread and you risk getting banned. (From the discussions page for thehunter cotw, not the game or steam)

[The Sarge]

Skooma Addict lähetti viestin:

Lol great bait OP real smooth brain moment (did you know AR stands for Assault Rifle? Crazy really)

AR actually stands for "Armalite Rifle". It's the manufacturers name. "Assault" is a dishonest word used by the anti gun crowd to make it sound bad to further their agenda.

[florble mcfumperdink]

The Sarge lähetti viestin:

Skooma Addict lähetti viestin:

Lol great bait OP real smooth brain moment (did you know AR stands for Assault Rifle? Crazy really)

AR actually stands for "Armalite Rifle". It's the manufacturers name. "Assault" is a dishonest word used by the anti gun crowd to make it sound bad to further their agenda.

Very similarly to how AK stands for "Avtomat Kalashnikova" or "Kalashnikov's automic rifle"