"ethical" video game hunting,who actually cares?

[gonomonakak]

after owning this game a few years now and really loving it,one thing dissapoints me,especially about africa map,the missing animals that happen to be endangered or just frowned upon to kill irl.who actually cares if were able to hunt an endangered animal in the game or just the well loved kinds of animal like the many kinds of monkeys and also girraffes,zebras,cheetahs and many others not just in africa.

why dose it matter if i want to hunt an elephant in a video game,or a gorilla,or any number of the missing animals from the various reserves? is peta gonna come after you? do you feel guilty about deleting lines of non sentient code that mimic the appearance of a real life animal just because killing it in real life is a bad thing?

if thats so,do you still play war games based on real events?what about gta?saints row?dishonored?fallout?skyrim or oblivion?watchdogs?mount and blade bannerlord?starfield?no mans sky? they all let you kill innocents,no mans sky even lets you extinct entire species.

sometimes its even required for certain missions and games,not just an option. so how do you live with yourself?just knowing that you "killed" a less than even partially self aware line of code,how do you go on after such unethical behavior?

[Deathwing1306]

"Discover an atmospheric hunting game like no other in this realistic, stunning open world – regularly updated in collaboration with the community."

The game is trying to be realistic, so that is probably the reason why...

All the other games you have mentioned are either purely made up or they are not up to date anymore, the war games are also something else tbh, numerous countries fighting against each other because of political reasons has nothing to do with animals.

Endangered animals are a thing which is a problem and I think it shouldn't be promoted anywhere, if I really want to say it out loud, people are and will be, if an endangered species of animal goes extinct, you won't ever see them again.

That is also why some people might have problem with some species of animals being killed in games because it's wrong... soldiers are signing for a fight, it's not like they don't want to be involved, soldiers exist because they want to fight in order to save their country and every country needs them. Some animals are pretty much being forced to die, some more than other and they can't do anything about it, that is why the majority of the world is trying their best to defend these species, so not having them even in a stupid hunting video game is a little help to this problem.

[DopaTrain]

The thing is the game advocates hunting, therefore it has a responsibility to promote ethical hunting. To do otherwise would be a disservice to the hunting community. Everybody has an interest here, developers, players real hunters and so on.

The game shouldn't encourage blasting animals in the head with shotguns or hunting overly endangered species . Yes the animals aren't real but the effect the game has on the general public's perception of hunting is real.

The last thing the hunting community or the hunting gaming community needs is endless videos on YouTube of kids gratuitously maiming animals for fun, killing endangered species and calling it hunting, real or not.

Thats a fast track to getting the game banned and just makes life harder for the hunting community and life easier for those who want to see hunting shut down.

COTW is trying to make a positive contribution, so it's not going to reward or promote unprofessional hunting.

As for killing generally it isnt a sport like hunting, nobody advocates murder, there arent murder events. It goes without saying that murder is wrong. There are usually consequences for it in games. Nobody is going to ban murder because its already banned. Murder isn’t a legit hobby that has a reputation to uphold, hunting is. Nobody cares if murder looks bad.

You drawing parallels between murder and professional hunting doesnt increase the likelyhood of more hunting games, nor does it paint the hunting community in a good light.

This game is an opportunity for those who have a vested interest in hunting to show it in a positive light. Why would you want to turn it into an opportunity for those that oppose hunting to show it in a negative light? You're part of the problem, not the solution.

Whether youre for hunting or not, theres doubtlessly a lot of ignorance surrounding it and youre just adding to it.

[Mr L]

welcome to the woke world 2023

[Jaffar Face]

I cri then I shoot another rabbit in the face with a shotgun

Originally posted by gonomonakak:

so how do you live with yourself?just knowing that you "killed" a less than even partially self aware line of code,how do you go on after such unethical behavior?

[astreamuser]

Personally, I'm aware that I'm playing a game like this one in which I endlessly kill animals basically for fun. There's nothing ethical about that, end of story. If the animal is endangered, it makes zero difference; it's still unethical. If I shoot the animal, and it bleeds and suffers for 1h, it still makes zero difference. Of course, I'm also aware that it's just a game, so at the end of the day, I don't feel bad about it. If I were to apply my moral values to games, then I should simply stop playing.

[SouthernMan1972]

I can see both sides of this. Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing some exotic endangered animals in the game to hunt. I wouldn't be conflicted about shooting them in a video game. That's where it would end for me, but I understand there might be some who see their inclusion in the game as a green light to hunt them, and some of those people might have the means to actually do it.

I believe that possibility keeps it from happening, and I'm fine with it. I would like it personally, but not at the cost of motivating poachers.

[Neurotic Panda]

nothing but tripe.

listen to the people on here. OHH its supposed to be like real hunting and ethical.

LMAO.

stop. please. seriously.

This game is like real ethical hunting like mario kart is to real racing with rules, or someone claiming to be a combat vet or that they understand real combat because they play ARMA.

I've seen live streams of the devs when the new .22 came out shooting at geese in the air like they were incoming ww2 fighters. Please do that IRL with a game warden near by and see just how ethical and 'real' you get treated. haha, lmao.. . Actually you do almost anything in this game into IRL (since you all keep bringing up IRL ethics into a game) around a warden and lets see how long before you get fines, jailed, banned from hunting and you firearms taken away.

please stop trying to pander that this game is some real hunting experience and some lesson on ethics.

its a joke at best.

This is a game. its fake, its fiction and it represents IRL hunting.. not at all. We should def be able to hunt rare animals. The ethics thing is a farce.

I agree OP. we should def be able to hunt elephants, rhinos, or any other animal on this planet. its a game, if you cant differentiate then YOU are the issue.

Originally posted by SouthernMan1972:

I would like it personally, but not at the cost of motivating poachers.

please. stop. do you really think poachers IRL play a game like this before they go out and poach rare animals in the jungles of africa?

i cant even. seriously.

[DopaTrain]

Panda, youre whats known in politics as a "useful idiot".

[IAmNothing]

the ballistics/penetration in this game is the way it is cuz thats realistic too. same with some animals alerting/not coming any closer than 50-75yds away in perfect conditions for no reason at all besides it reaching set coded minimum distance to the player. besides what hunting might be legal here isnt there. and we should all boycott and demand every other game be changed/banned too since most every other games break current laws somewhere if not everywhere too regardless if particular law is right/wrong cuz laws are sovereign and perfect always and should be treated as such without question even in video games or youre a terrorist. always remember to blame the gun, game, or movie for anyones crime. if that doesnt work, can always fall back on systemic racisms/bigotry. the virtuous thing to do is to always blame the object rather than the mental health victim cuz no particular person performing the act is ever to blame or should get any consequence for their own actions/decisions. and those would be natural repercussions/consequences should not only be prevented at all cost, but person should be rewarded rather as some encouragement for the poor mental health victim that needs it

[DopaTrain]

Somebody take nothing home, he’s drunk.

[Neurotic Panda]

Originally posted by DopaTrain:

Panda, youre whats known in politics as a "useful idiot".

I read your wall of inane banter.

you're what we call IRL as just an 'idiot'.

you're the type of person who thinks video games cause violence.. BAN em !!

You're apparently the type too who thinks that if we can hunt something like elephants in Africa in this game, Then people will play and go.. 'wow i can do it in CoTW , so i'm gonna go to africa, gather a team of dudes with weapons, hide from 'police' and poach some elephants IRL'.. because i mean hunter CoTW let me kill them !!!! cuz game ethics = IRL ethics.

ethics in a video game have zero to do with IRL.

but hey, you keep on believing. Also why do you even play this game? There are ethics violations all over it and allowed in it if you're basing your arguments off IRL (which you are).., this is without even mentioning rare animals... how do you even play or support this, if we live by and game by your 'argument'.

we dont, because its tripe.

It's a game. rofl.

[IAmNothing]

wait how is there a night time in this game, i thought that was illegal

[DopaTrain]

Panda youre missing the point entirely. Im supporting the game. Youre making the game I support, look like its made for and played by unethical idiots. Which is exactly what people who want games like this banned want it to look like. Thats the point. Your best defence against them is to prove them wrong, not be useful to them and prove them right.

Obviously the game wont adhere to every ethic and law because that's impossible. It does however need an ethical element for the reasons already stated above. Thats why it has one, in answer to the original poster. Not only that but everything we do should have an ethical element otherwise it will inevitably be questioned, and rightfully so.

[Neurotic Panda]

Originally posted by IAmNothing:

wait how is there a night time in this game, i thought that was illegal

it is in most places. so is running animals down or chasing them with vehicles (quads).. also murdering entire herds of animals is illegal too (bag limits)..

You can make a page of BS this game has in it that in IRL is completely illegal and NOT ethical. but the people here draw the line at 'rare' animals. thats just WAAAYYY over the line of what the game should allow.

Game is full of IRL 'ethics vilations'... w/o even talking about 'rare' animals.

bringing IRL ethics into a game like this is a joke. just like the 'arguments' here.

comedians.

[kafersaft]

Originally posted by DopaTrain:

Panda, youre whats known in politics as a "useful idiot".

i'm failing to see the "useful" part