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The Eagle Jul 3, 2023 @ 10:01am
Gun wobble and recoil
These two are over exaggerated by a lot. Can they not be reduced some at least?
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Psyringe Jul 3, 2023 @ 10:09am 
There are ways to reduce the wobble, some of which you might be doing already:

- Stand still. Moving increases the wobble drastically.

- Wait until your heart rate (indicated in the lower right corner of the screen) has calmed down. Your heart rate influences the wobble.

- Hold your breath (there's a key for that). You may need to put points into the rifle perk "Breath Control" for this to have an effect on the wobble.

- Put two points in the rifle perk "Steady Hands", which reduces the wobble for all weapons.

I'm not sure if crouching or going prone has an effect on the wobble, might be worth testing.

Regarding recoil, you can put up to 3 points in the shotgun perk "Recoil Management", which reduces the recoil of all weapons. It's still pretty hefty though, depending on the weapon.
Last edited by Psyringe; Jul 3, 2023 @ 10:16am
VictoriaHuntress Jul 3, 2023 @ 11:20am 
Originally posted by Psyringe:
There are ways to reduce the wobble, some of which you might be doing already:

- Stand still. Moving increases the wobble drastically.

- Wait until your heart rate (indicated in the lower right corner of the screen) has calmed down. Your heart rate influences the wobble.

- Hold your breath (there's a key for that). You may need to put points into the rifle perk "Breath Control" for this to have an effect on the wobble.

- Put two points in the rifle perk "Steady Hands", which reduces the wobble for all weapons.

I'm not sure if crouching or going prone has an effect on the wobble, might be worth testing.

Regarding recoil, you can put up to 3 points in the shotgun perk "Recoil Management", which reduces the recoil of all weapons. It's still pretty hefty though, depending on the weapon.

Shooting from a crouched or prone position does reduce the sway. Standing has the most sway, prone the least.

You definitely want the Breath Control perk with all levels.
Last edited by VictoriaHuntress; Jul 3, 2023 @ 11:21am
Humpenstilzchen Jul 3, 2023 @ 11:44am 
You are right, it´s excessive especially in the beginning.

As said before you´ll need all the perks that reduce wobble and also at least go crouch or prone if possible and also hold your breath for each shot.
The Eagle Jul 3, 2023 @ 2:39pm 
I have those perks and like I said before it is way to unreal. I am sure a 12 year old can hold the gun more steady than it is now!
Humpenstilzchen Jul 3, 2023 @ 3:06pm 
Originally posted by The Eagle:
I have those perks and like I said before it is way to unreal. I am sure a 12 year old can hold the gun more steady than it is now!
I agree 100%. It´s total bs but these devs don´t care about realism that´s the problem.

They don´t even fix severe bugs like the audio bug that makes calls come from the wrong direction which affects many people.

All they care is money so they once in a while make a new copy paste reserve for some additional income and call it a day.

My point is no matter how much we complain or what we suggest, they don´t care at all so don´t waste your time.
VictoriaHuntress Jul 3, 2023 @ 3:20pm 
Originally posted by The Eagle:
I have those perks and like I said before it is way to unreal. I am sure a 12 year old can hold the gun more steady than it is now!
And if this was real life shooting, that would be true.
The game uses a rather simple dynamic model to simulate the Lissajous figure of the aim wobble. The gun is essentially fixed at one end (the breech) and the barrel is free to oscillate in the 2 orthogonal directions (perpendicular to the bore axis). There is no two-points-of-support of the weapon, so standing, crouched or prone, there are no bipods or bags to rest the stock and stabilize it.

Yeah, it's simpler than real world physics, but...
It is still possible to earn the perks and learn to shoot accurately in this game. I have 2500hrs (across 2 platforms and 3 games, now starting a 4th on my PS4). I have no issues with making accurate shots, but then again, I have the patience to wait for the opportune moments.
The Eagle Jul 3, 2023 @ 3:58pm 
I have 3200 + hrs and I was away for approx 1 year. I complained about when i was playing before and still no results. Now I know it can be done because I have seen mods saying that the wobble can be reduced by a lot, and no I do not have any mods installed but it can be done.Oh well I guess its no use saying to much because the fan boys/girls jump in and say everything is fine. I guess I'll just keep plodding along and get what I can! There will never be any fixes if some people say that it is okay!
Last edited by The Eagle; Jul 3, 2023 @ 4:00pm
ToastedRipper Jul 3, 2023 @ 4:31pm 
Also, a bit off topic, but is the hit zone also a rng area? I've seen on many many occasions where I've been more than close enough, have the perks to reduce wobble, and yet I still miss the mark. In many cases completely missed the animal. Now sure there is a probability of that happening, but not at this frequency. I've also noticed when spotting animals the binos are off... so spotting requires me to be off to the left, and up to spot. If I'm dead on it does not spot. Honestly this game is filled to the brim with bugs! LOL.
Last edited by ToastedRipper; Jul 3, 2023 @ 4:32pm
Humpenstilzchen Jul 3, 2023 @ 4:44pm 
Originally posted by ToastedRipper:
Also, a bit off topic, but is the hit zone also a rng area? I've seen on many many occasions where I've been more than close enough, have the perks to reduce wobble, and yet I still miss the mark. In many cases completely missed the animal. Now sure there is a probability of that happening, but not at this frequency. I've also noticed when spotting animals the binos are off... so spotting requires me to be off to the left, and up to spot. If I'm dead on it does not spot. Honestly this game is filled to the brim with bugs! LOL.
No the guns are 100% accurate. I know it because I always go for heartshots almost regardless of the distance and angle and I´m able to reliably hit them.

Here are some examples:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2866523610
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2866523383
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2866523352
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2866523329
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2998694393
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2491568380
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2491522741
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2491517614
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2491522741
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2491171204

I have hundreds of these pictures mainly to study the anatomy in order to become a better shooter. Some of these shots were not possible if the guns were inaccurate so please don´t missunderstand this as bragging, that is not my intention ,I just wanted to proof that I know what I´m talking about and I can tell you the rifles are absolutely accurate, though wind does play a role especially on targets further away.
Last edited by Humpenstilzchen; Jul 3, 2023 @ 4:49pm
ToastedRipper Jul 3, 2023 @ 4:57pm 
Originally posted by Humpenstilzchen:
Originally posted by ToastedRipper:
Also, a bit off topic, but is the hit zone also a rng area? I've seen on many many occasions where I've been more than close enough, have the perks to reduce wobble, and yet I still miss the mark. In many cases completely missed the animal. Now sure there is a probability of that happening, but not at this frequency. I've also noticed when spotting animals the binos are off... so spotting requires me to be off to the left, and up to spot. If I'm dead on it does not spot. Honestly this game is filled to the brim with bugs! LOL.
No the guns are 100% accurate. I know it because I always go for heartshots almost regardless of the distance and angle and I´m able to reliably hit them.

Here are some examples:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2866523610
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2866523383
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2866523352
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2866523329
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2998694393
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2491568380
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2491522741
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2491517614
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2491522741
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2491171204

I have hundreds of these pictures mainly to study the anatomy in order to become a better shooter. Some of these shots were not possible if the guns were inaccurate so please don´t missunderstand this as bragging, that is not my intention ,I just wanted to proof that I know what I´m talking about and I can tell you the rifles are absolutely accurate, though wind does play a role especially on targets further away.
I too have many heart shots.... that proves nothing really. Sometimes I'm literally 40m away from a buck, and even with an off the mark shot I'd hit something yet it registers some as complete misses. Not possible at that distance, lets be honest. Also I'm not the first to complain.
Last edited by ToastedRipper; Jul 3, 2023 @ 4:58pm
Humpenstilzchen Jul 3, 2023 @ 5:01pm 
Originally posted by ToastedRipper:
Originally posted by Humpenstilzchen:
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I too have many heart shots.... that proves nothing really. Sometimes I'm literally 40m away from a buck, and even with an off the mark shot I'd hit something yet it registers some as complete misses. Not possible at that distance, lets be honest. Also I'm not the first to complain.
I don´t believe you. I have too much experience in this game to believe this bs. You sound like one of those guys who blames the gun when he misses his shot. Stop making up nonsense as an excuse.
Last edited by Humpenstilzchen; Jul 3, 2023 @ 5:02pm
VictoriaHuntress Jul 3, 2023 @ 5:08pm 
Originally posted by The Eagle:
I have 3200 + hrs and I was away for approx 1 year. I complained about when i was playing before and still no results. Now I know it can be done because I have seen mods saying that the wobble can be reduced by a lot, and no I do not have any mods installed but it can be done.Oh well I guess its no use saying to much because the fan boys/girls jump in and say everything is fine. I guess I'll just keep plodding along and get what I can! There will never be any fixes if some people say that it is okay!

I wouldn't mind if they added bipods or shooting sticks as accessories to reduce the sway even further - that would be more realistic - 'if I can do it in real life hunting, I should be able to do it in the game' (and don't get started on a bodily functions DLC HAHA!)

On the other hand, given that the veteran players can all make better than 90% of our shots even with the current model and the perks, is there really a good reason for us to complain? Or for EW to make it a high priority for improvement.
Last edited by VictoriaHuntress; Jul 3, 2023 @ 5:47pm
ToastedRipper Jul 3, 2023 @ 5:16pm 
Originally posted by Humpenstilzchen:
Originally posted by ToastedRipper:
I too have many heart shots.... that proves nothing really. Sometimes I'm literally 40m away from a buck, and even with an off the mark shot I'd hit something yet it registers some as complete misses. Not possible at that distance, lets be honest. Also I'm not the first to complain.
I don´t believe you. I have too much experience in this game to believe this bs. You sound like one of those guys who blames the gun when he misses his shot. Stop making up nonsense as an excuse.
Im not the one throwing insults. You butt hurt your favorite game isn't loved by everyone? Grow up! LOL
Humpenstilzchen Jul 3, 2023 @ 6:22pm 
Originally posted by ToastedRipper:
Originally posted by Humpenstilzchen:
I don´t believe you. I have too much experience in this game to believe this bs. You sound like one of those guys who blames the gun when he misses his shot. Stop making up nonsense as an excuse.
Im not the one throwing insults. You butt hurt your favorite game isn't loved by everyone? Grow up! LOL
At this point I will block you. I won´t feed your poor trolling attempts anymore. Have a nice day and btw learn to aim it really helps ;)
The Eagle Jul 3, 2023 @ 6:30pm 
Humpenstilzchen you probobly are a fisherman also with the one that got away LOL.its like I said if players like keep saying everything is fine there will never be fixes to this game. I will not answer your posts anymore as you are just looking for an argument, you will not get one from me. Have a great day!
Last edited by The Eagle; Jul 4, 2023 @ 9:36am
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