The rifles in the game suck!

[Gelfan_Dothea]

So I just started the Africa map and can see and scope animals from half way across the landscape, but it takes a dozen shots just to kill the damn things. Not to mention the 20 minutes it takes to track them. I have all the weapons DLCs. The only rifles with any damn accuracy are the .22 caliber, and they ain't worth a damn. I'm using the Zarza-10 Stalker with .308 polymer rounds and high power scope. Best setup in the game, but it has no damn accuracy. It's always peanut butter but no jelly with these damn rifles.

WTF is the military grade Barrett M82 sniper rifle at? I wan't something that's going to blow one of these buffalo in half from 400 meters.

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[Carstein83]

The .308 is a very good weapon, but labeled for classes 4-8 and too weak for class 9. It also struggles against class 8 (Gemsbok), if you have a bad angle. Against class 9 (Cape Buffalo or Lion) and class 8 use the .338 Tsurugi (Weapon Power Pack) or the .300 (Yukon DLC).

[Gelfan_Dothea]

According to the wiki, the .338 Tsurugi is worse than .308 Stalker. The .300 Canning Magnum Frontier looks promising though with 80 accuracy, but only 150m range. I remember going the Army bootcamp and firing the M-4 (5.56 ball) at 300m targets. You mean to tell me the best $90,000 rifles in this game are only good for half that? What a joke.

[Psyringe]

Originally posted by Gelfan_Dothea:

According to the wiki, the .338 Tsurugi is worse than .308 Stalker. The .300 Canning Magnum Frontier looks promising though with 80 accuracy. No clue how I'm going to get $75,000 to get it though. I've got like $2,000 in the bank (spent it all on ammo and stands). I'll give it a shot (pun intended).

The Canning is indeed considered one of the very best weapons for classes 7-9. Its main disadvantage is that it only covers this rather narrow range of classes, whereas other high-end weapons (like the Malmer 7mm) cover classes 4-9 - which means that with the Canning, you may need to add more weapons to a general loadout if you want to be able to hunt all classes decently well, which means that you're more limited with regard to other gear that you may want to carry around with you. But the Canning is more powerful than those more versatile weapons.

Regarding the price - don't stress, you'll get there. A well-placed shot typically earns you around $1000 for the kill, so if you just keep hunting animals, you'll eventually be able to buy the Canning. Completing missions in the reserves, and completing daily/weekly tasks in Apex Connect, can earn you additional funds.

[Gelfan_Dothea]

In other words... that's a no on a rifle with 400 meter range and 100 accuracy? This must be a BS fictitious game limitation, because my M-4 Carbine in the Army had an effective range of 550m. And accuracy was amazing. I scored expert on 300m targets with an iron site. It would be unstoppable with a scope. perfect rifle.

I think I was right the first time. The rifles in this game are $hit. You'd think paying for a rifle pack would at least net you an M-4 or an AR-15.

Side Note: Outside of military weapons I know nothing about guns. Not a hunter or a redneck. I'm ignorant about this stuff. Maybe hunting gear really is that far behind military gear.

[Psyringe]

Originally posted by Gelfan_Dothea:

In other words... that's a no on a rifle with 400 meter range and 100 accuracy?

Correct. As to your initial observation: I have absolutely no idea about weapons in real life (it isn't a topic that I ever had any interest in), but the consensus here seems to be that the weapons in this game are indeed less powerful than their real-life counterparts. There are two main reasons for that:

One, the game only fully simulates animals in your vicinity. Everything outside of your visual range gets handled by much simpler, but also much more efficient algorithms. This is a necessary division because even the beefiest PC would struggle when trying to handle fully simulated animal behavior across the entirety of this game's huge maps. Letting players reliably shoot animals so close to the border between the "fully simulated" and "roughly calculated" areas would probably invite problems when animals switch in and out of either zone.

Two, the game wants to create a challenge for the player. Getting close to an animal without spooking it, and placing your shot well, is part of that challenge. "Blowing a buffalo in half from 400m", as you write, would not be challenging at all and isn't the gameplay experience that this game was designed for. Likewise, while you _can_ (for example) lacerate a rabbit with 16g buckshot ammunition, you won't get many points for it, because you circumvented the challenge that the game set up for you. If you want to get XP, you need to use class 1 ammo for rabbits, which is of course a bit more challenging.

[Mo0on]

Dude isn't looking for accuracy hes looking for a hitscan weapon. Go play with an aimbot or something.

And yes, M4 is actually only accurate up to 500m. And that is literally because of the 5.56 not the fking rifle.

The game doesn't give us actual scope adjustments, which I'm 100% confident you have no idea how to do IRL anyways so it wouldn't matter. The guns are accurate enough for the range the game plays at.

If it did you'd be able to hit targets up to a mile away. 1600m.

[Gelfan_Dothea]

Originally posted by Mo0on:

Dude isn't looking for accuracy hes looking for a hitscan weapon. ...

You seem illiterate, so I'll reiterate what I wrote for you in smaller words.

Africa Animal very far (400m). Need gun shoot very far. Kill animal.

[Mo0on]

Originally posted by Gelfan_Dothea:

Originally posted by Mo0on:

Dude isn't looking for accuracy hes looking for a hitscan weapon. ...

You seem illiterate, so I'll reiterate what I wrote for you in smaller words.

Africa Animal very far (400m). Need gun shoot very far. Kill animal.

Go play cod then.

[Gelfan_Dothea]

[quote=Mo0on;3809531491902454350
If it did you'd be able to hit targets up to a mile away. 1600m. [/quote]

No ♥♥♥♥, that's what I want to do.

[Psyringe]

Originally posted by Gelfan_Dothea:

Originally posted by Mo0on:

Dude isn't looking for accuracy hes looking for a hitscan weapon. ...

You seem illiterate, so I'll reiterate what I wrote for you in smaller words.

Africa Animal very far (400m). Need gun shoot very far. Kill animal.

You're being unnecessarily rude toward people who are trying to help you by sharing their knowledge about the game (which, in case of Mo0on, is pretty immense).

I would recommend taking his words to heart rather than getting snappish, even if you don't like what they say. He's probably one of the most competent posters here.

It sounds like theHunter might not provide the gameplay experience that you're after. That's fine, not every game needs to be designed for every type of player. theHunter is a game for people who like hunting, have a lot of patience, and appreciate a challenge more than an easy way to success. If your preferences are different, then you'll find more enjoyment in other games.

Again: This is not a game where you spot an animal at 400m, equip a powerful weapon, shoot it, and it blasts apart. You _can_ occasionally shoot animals at that range, but that's an exception and also requires skill. This is a game where you spot an animal at 400m, carefully walk closer while staying downwind, go crouching or prone to reduce visibility, use brushwork or grass as camouflage, use callers to lure animals toward you, wait patiently for a good shooting opportunity, equip a weapon with ammunition appropriate for the animal, take your shot, track the blood trail until you find the body, and then take your harvest.

[Gelfan_Dothea]

Originally posted by Psyringe:

You're being unnecessarily rude toward people who are trying to help you ...

Really, Unnecessarily rude, eh?

Originally posted by Mo0on:

... Go play with an aimbot or something.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with someone asking about (or wanting) a rifle with an 1800 effective range in a hunting game. Especially when playing a long-range map. If that somehow hurts mooon's feelings (for whatever odd reason) can't be helped. I paid money. same as you.

But my question was answered, and I thank you for that.

[Humpenstilzchen]

It´s been a long time since i read so much nonsense.

[Soltyk]

Originally posted by Humpenstilzchen:

It´s been a long time since i read so much nonsense.

I envy you.

[TruebornJester]

Originally posted by Gelfan_Dothea:

Originally posted by Psyringe:

You're being unnecessarily rude toward people who are trying to help you ...

Really, Unnecessarily rude, eh?

Originally posted by Mo0on:

... Go play with an aimbot or something.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with someone asking about (or wanting) a rifle with an 1800 effective range in a hunting game. Especially when playing a long-range map. If that somehow hurts mooon's feelings (for whatever odd reason) can't be helped. I paid money. same as you.

But my question was answered, and I thank you for that.

Clearly didn't do your due diligence research before purchasing

[TruebornJester]

Your review

21.4 hrs last two weeks / 106.2 hrs on record (41.3 hrs at review time)
Posted: 15 Dec, 2022 @ 3:26pm
Updated: 21 Apr @ 7:15am

Game is great for what it is.