Can we have a DLC to add Silencers to the game

[Jonas]

i think silencers would be fun to play

[yogisgoat]

Silenced weapons as seen in films and video games are a myth. A silenced weapon irl is still louder than the air rifle in this game unless you're using sub-sonic ammo, which you really don't want to use for hunting.

[ULTRA]

Originally posted by yogisgoat:

Silenced weapons as seen in films and video games are a myth. A silenced weapon irl is still louder than the air rifle in this game unless you're using sub-sonic ammo, which you really don't want to use for hunting.

Not that the game resembles reality at all, but mammalian stress response to sound scales with power and in many situations even a loud, unnatural sound would not be enough to scare a herd away if it were simply just not loud enough. Also the chance that it might not scare the target as much means the target would be less likely to leave the area.

They could balance it by making the aim sway greater or become distorted if you fire it too often

Of course it's behind horses, a retriever, boats, and half a dozen other material additions to the game in terms of importance

[Neurotic Panda]

Originally posted by yogisgoat:

Silenced weapons as seen in films and video games are a myth. A silenced weapon irl is still louder than the air rifle in this game unless you're using sub-sonic ammo, which you really don't want to use for hunting.

false statements are false.

i instantly think of the Welrod and De Lisle..

i wish steam would implement some kind of fact checking mechanism. so much blatantly wrong info spewed all over.

[Jonas]

would be nice to hunt boars at night with my silenced ar-15 and night vision!

[Andi]

Definitely amongst my 3 most wanted for the game! 👍

[dbond1]

Let's set aside the notion of silenced hunting weapons for a moment and consider suppressed weapons.

In the recent past suppressors for hunting rifles have exploded in popularity, there's no way around it. As the technology has improved, and the cost has dropped, it has become far more mainstream than I could have imagined 20 years ago.

But the hunters I know who use suppressors do not do so to spook the animals less. It is done primarily for two reasons. The most important one is for protection of their own hearing. Hunting rifles are loud, and firing them often is a real concern. Hell, firing them not so often is too. The second reason is suppressors are usually more accurate, or more accurately, improve the point of impact, resulting in tighter groups. Longer barrels produce higher muzzle velocities. Higher projectile speed makes them more consistently accurate. Suppressors also reduce recoil impulse.

In real-life hunting, a suppressor will indeed 'spook the animals less', how could it not? A typical suppressor reduces report volume around 30 decibels, which is significant. But it's still a high powered rifle. Maybe now it doesn't crack in the same way, but it's still pretty loud. However, hunting in the real-world is subjected to bag and tag limits. You aren't concerned that you might spook another animal nearby you intend to shoot too, like we can do in these PC games. One and done, usually. So even if the animals are less likely to spook, it isn't a primary concern for many hunters. It's a matter of hearing protection, more reliable impact point and in many areas, less disturbance for the residents.

Personally I think suppressors are a must-have in a modern hunting game or simulation. And with our unfettered ability to harvest as many animals as we want -- a bottomless bag as it were -- it would have a significant impact on how effectively we can try to fill that bag.

[Humpenstilzchen]

Here in Germany suppressors are very popular among hunters for one good reason: It enables them to hunt closer to settlements.

[kamikazi21358]

Originally posted by yogisgoat:

Silenced weapons as seen in films and video games are a myth. A silenced weapon irl is still louder than the air rifle in this game unless you're using sub-sonic ammo, which you really don't want to use for hunting.

We know, this changes nothing.

[Tigershark1968]

Suppressors do not silence a firearm. They change the sound resignation of the firearm. Making the sound less like a firearm. Yes they are easier on hearing, but they are by no means silent or doing what a typical person that has no time on them, thinks they do. The movies are movies, not real life. More so, the firearm would be less lethal, as suppressed ammo has to be sub sonic ammo for the suppressor to work as it is intended. Meaning your ammo would have less powder, thus less power. So you'd have a rifle that doesn't sound like a rifle, and that does less damage. If you enjoy tracking wounded game for long periods of time, that is your absolute best route to doing it.

[kamikazi21358]

Originally posted by Tigershark1968:

More so, the firearm would be less lethal, as suppressed ammo has to be sub sonic ammo for the suppressor to work as it is intended. Meaning your ammo would have less powder, thus less power.

This isn’t always true, this would be more-so for earlier suppressors that often use multiple rubber rings and such. A regular modern suppressor wouldn’t do this, in fact it would do the opposite, the increase in effective barrel length would compensate for the suppressor and increase velocity of the bullet, though by just a small %.

Major reductions in velocity even still regardless of type of suppressors, are due to subsonic military ammo types, that are used to eliminate the supersonic crack to make rifles stealthier.

But also in addition, to say what I said — regardless, it changes nothing. Suppressors are not like in movies… yeah, so why not add them anyways, realistically? There are reasons to, though they are very minor if realistic. But there are not many reasons not to, it would be a fun aesthetic for many people who would want it.

[Humpenstilzchen]

Originally posted by kamikazi21358:

But there are not many reasons not to, it would be a fun aesthetic for many people who would want it.

I highly dount the developers will add suppressors. It has been suggested many times from the first day on when they released the game and they always ignored this kind of requests entirely. I think they are bit stuck in the past and don´t like modern equipment.

[soldier6661111]

Originally posted by Neurotic Panda:

Originally posted by yogisgoat:

Silenced weapons as seen in films and video games are a myth. A silenced weapon irl is still louder than the air rifle in this game unless you're using sub-sonic ammo, which you really don't want to use for hunting.

false statements are false.

i instantly think of the Welrod and De Lisle..

i wish steam would implement some kind of fact checking mechanism. so much blatantly wrong info spewed all over.

Yeah...this is false. Welrod lmao

[kamikazi21358]

Originally posted by Neurotic Panda:

i wish steam would implement some kind of fact checking mechanism. so much blatantly wrong info spewed all over.

This is steam forums. We would just correct it and argue with the fact checker.

Originally posted by Humpenstilzchen:

Originally posted by kamikazi21358:

But there are not many reasons not to, it would be a fun aesthetic for many people who would want it.

I highly dount the developers will add suppressors. It has been suggested many times from the first day on when they released the game and they always ignored this kind of requests entirely. I think they are bit stuck in the past and don´t like modern equipment.

There has been two modern stuff DLCs, so it isn't out of the question entirely. But the older stuff is more fun imo so I understand so.

[Jonas]

people also think that hunters dont need to use ar's style rifles or night vision or thermal to hunt game.
look i think is simple just add the silencers in a new modern weapons dlc, with other content and if people like they buy and play if dont just let in dont remove the option just because you have personal opinions about modern tec in hunting.

[Humpenstilzchen]

Originally posted by kamikazi21358:

There has been two modern stuff DLCs, so it isn't out of the question entirely. But the older stuff is more fun imo so I understand so.

And those modern weapon have been made inferiour to their real counterparts and only got tiny magazines and the rate of fire is so low that you can almost use a bolt action instead. I think this is no coincidence.