Stalking

[Forgy]

How am I supposed to stalk a herd of blacktail when I can be DOWNWIND, ONE BAR OF SOUND, SCENT SPRAY ON, and they STILL warning call from 150m away???

[Forgy]

I was just 250m away from mallards, three bar sound, and they all flew away.

[sneakybass]

Originally posted by Forgy:

How am I supposed to stalk a herd of blacktail when I can be DOWNWIND, ONE BAR OF SOUND, SCENT SPRAY ON, and they STILL warning call from 150m away???

Forgy how I kill my Blacktails call them In don't move they try to sneak In and bust you some even flank some like other animals in game , I never use scent ever and have no trouble, use your callers. If they are at a need zone and see them crawl In. I only use a bow In game.Know when to stay put just like hunting some animals that like to flank.

[Forgy]

Originally posted by sneakybass:

Originally posted by Forgy:

How am I supposed to stalk a herd of blacktail when I can be DOWNWIND, ONE BAR OF SOUND, SCENT SPRAY ON, and they STILL warning call from 150m away???

Forgy how I kill my Blacktails call them In don't move they try to sneak In and bust you some even flank some like other animals in game , I never use scent ever and have no trouble, use your callers. If they are at a need zone and see them crawl In. I only use a bow In game.Know when to stay put just like hunting some animals that like to flank.

Most of the time I use callers, they just get ignored. Maybe 1/10 times I use it it's even noticed.

[sneakybass]

Originally posted by Forgy:

I was just 250m away from mallards, three bar sound, and they all flew away.

Sounds like you were walking or running did you have red bars? I guess they were looking at you because you saw them get up maybe you were closer than you think I can crouch and get to a hundred yards on anything In game ,and crawl the rest even to kill ducks with a bow at seventy yards. Maybe they just got up and left seen that happen all the time there time Is up they have to leave . Were you planning on shooting them with a rifle? Good luck next time.

[sneakybass]

Originally posted by Forgy:

Originally posted by sneakybass:

Forgy how I kill my Blacktails call them In don't move they try to sneak In and bust you some even flank some like other animals in game , I never use scent ever and have no trouble, use your callers. If they are at a need zone and see them crawl In. I only use a bow In game.Know when to stay put just like hunting some animals that like to flank.

Most of the time I use callers, they just get ignored. Maybe 1/10 times I use it it's even noticed.

If they catch you moving a foot or two moving , things happen sometimes ,you have lots of hours playing just hang In there ........Thats strange everything comes right to me with callers Is your person In game all the perks for bow hunting?

[sneakybass]

My bow has all perks and the others for the bow only a few for the shot gun.Some animals take there sweet time to come to you. Black tails and coyotes and a few other take there sweet time to drift In.

[sneakybass]

Originally posted by Forgy:

Originally posted by sneakybass:

Forgy how I kill my Blacktails call them In don't move they try to sneak In and bust you some even flank some like other animals in game , I never use scent ever and have no trouble, use your callers. If they are at a need zone and see them crawl In. I only use a bow In game.Know when to stay put just like hunting some animals that like to flank.

Most of the time I use callers, they just get ignored. Maybe 1/10 times I use it it's even noticed.

Use the grunt call most times the wheese caller may make a difference if thats the name of It . Black tails are tricks . Remember this take what can get and keep moving some times it goes your way some times not.

[sneakybass]

Originally posted by Forgy:

How am I supposed to stalk a herd of blacktail when I can be DOWNWIND, ONE BAR OF SOUND, SCENT SPRAY ON, and they STILL warning call from 150m away???

Remember calls only can be used at a certain distance from the animal try to get within I would say 100 yards and crouch everything where tracks are at. When you approach tracks use your callers stop every so often to spot movement while being crouched all thru the area to hard to spot animals moving when you move. where tracks are at. I hope that helps you.Spot them before they spot you.I have killed more animals and seen them along ways off.

[sneakybass]

Try to use your walk foward key and the =auto key for movement= slows you down just a little bit a little more stealth, I never just walk normal speed In game.

[sneakybass]

Originally posted by Forgy:

How am I supposed to stalk a herd of blacktail when I can be DOWNWIND, ONE BAR OF SOUND, SCENT SPRAY ON, and they STILL warning call from 150m away???

Forgy Is your scent going towards the animals do not try to hunt animals like that always hunt with the wind towards you away from the animals, calls won't work nothing will but a rifle and just happen to see them. Always hunt the map with the wind Is in your face. Use the cabins or quads to hunt from or set up tents and walk Into the wind. Never hunt animals from the wind going towards them with your sent. You should have no problem calling In animals to you. If your sent Is going towards them they will never come to you or stay about 100 yards away at least or more. Get the wind In your favor not the animals good luck....

[Kaned Dragon]

Originally posted by Forgy:

How am I supposed to stalk a herd of blacktail when I can be DOWNWIND, ONE BAR OF SOUND, SCENT SPRAY ON, and they STILL warning call from 150m away???

I'm not sure on this but, I got the feeling some of the animals can get spooked by other animals now. I've noticed the same thing where some animals give out a warning call from 100m + away. Might be there's a predator near them, and their spooked by that not you.

Not sure just an idea.

[Jwilly]

Predators absolutely can spook other animals. Watched 2 moose get spooked by a lynx on Medved

[elawrence]

Originally posted by Forgy:

How am I supposed to stalk a herd of blacktail when I can be DOWNWIND, ONE BAR OF SOUND, SCENT SPRAY ON, and they STILL warning call from 150m away???

Yes, this seems to happen more often now. Either because of other animals getting spooked and telling on you (though I was told in another post that it didn't work that way), or it's just one of those (perhaps more frequent) freak occurrences and you were unlucky.

I agree that small game (and this is being said in several posts) seems to be really skittish/aware/etc. now, but generally, bigger game generally feels (to me anyway) more or less like they've always been.

I'm currently hunting on the new map, and hunting from downwind, using the binoculars often, keeping the running to a minimum, etc., and things are ok.

I find that coming back to CotW after a break requires me to get back into a very specific sort of gaming mindset, and it usually takes me like 12 hours of playtime before I get my CotW "legs" back. Not saying this is your case, just sharing a random thought I guess...

Good luck out there!

[Forgy]

I appreciate all the comments and suggestions! For the most part I enjoy the game, and I do most of my stalking quietly and always downwind. I will try to be more patient and slow it down and see how that goes. I may even try bows.

[Leadmagnet]

You might also try crawling as to help get closer as well as trying to keep bushes & trees between you and the animal. Crawling is usually zero on the sound meter and it will hit 1 bar at times depending on what you crawl through but it usually drops back to zero. The bushes & trees help screen you from the animals sight. The other thing to try is to come in on the animal's blind spot if at all possible.

If you are going to stalk, get both levels of soft feet and both levels of improvised blind. Soft feet helps reduce the noise you make and improvised blind help reduce your visibility in the brush. I've seen a lot of complaints or comments about how well they work since the new map. It does seem that improvised blind doesn't work as well as it use to.

Callers do have a range and that could be part of the problem you are having. I have, for me anyway, noticed that animals actively using a need zone tend to ignore callers. If you are calling any of the predators, remember that they tend to circle down wind as they come in and that they come in slowly so it is a big waiting game to get them.