Why? Just why?

[huez]

Just got the game, because of how real it looks and feels (from videos since its downloading)
However i hate the idea of killing animals. I dont hate hunters or anything. People who eat meat should respect them for actually standing eye to eye with a animal, instead of wiping a credit card and never see what this meat is really worth and what it takes to get.

Im still not into killing animals... but i had to get this game. Just watching one video made me feel like a child, when i used to build my little camps in the wild areas etc.

So why there is a game, so realistic that you can feel the nature around you...
aand its just a hunting game.


Anything else from devs of this game?
Someone knows other games that reach the wilds on this level?
And no, tomb raider does not give those feels, not even close.

[Gatherer]

Firpo a écrit :

the idea is not bad though, use this engine and make something like a hiking/camping simulator with hunger and thirst and stamina and stuff, where you wander the wilds, climb some hills and build a tent and make a fire at night... and get eaten by a bear because you have no rifles with you haha

An Orienteering game, as an off shoot of CotW would be good. Leave in all the animals and have more challenging routes through areas with bears, wolves, etc.

[huez]

WildCat a écrit :

Z3R0 a écrit :

People who eat meat should respect them for actually standing eye to eye with a animal, instead of wiping a credit card and never see what this meat is really worth and what it takes to get.

This sentence is nonsense, and I'll tell you why, logically and factually.

The majority of us meat eaters don't eat venison, wild boar, etc. We eat chicken, pork, beef, lamb, etc. That kind of meat is not hunted. They are shipped to an abattoir (slaughterhouse) direct from farms, pushed down a conveyor belt and shot in the head with a bolt or have their throat slit (i.e. halal) before they are processed. There is no hunting, it's an industry that processes thousands of animals per day. Very little hunted meat is sold commercially, it is usually hunted, butchered and consumed by private individuals. Further, that small percentage of game which is sold commercially often comes from private reserves where the animals are actually monitored, given vaccinations, attended by vets, etc so that the meat is known to be safe before it is consumed by humans, e.g. here in the UK all venison comes from Scottish reserves. In some cases that is because it is law to have safe meat on the counter, not randomly hunted animals with no known history, in terms of health and diseases.

Futher, what do you mean "eye to eye"? In what reality does this happen? Your average hunter shoots animals from many yards away with a scoped rifle unannounced. If a hunter ever comes "eye to eye" with his prey that animal is going to bolt and be a difficult, if not impossible, target.

In short, you really shouldn't be demanding that people respect anything it you cannot get your facts straight about what needs to be respected. Research your facts, the internet is an enormous archive of data, allowing you to learn things properly instead of making uninformed claims and pretentious demands. Hunting may be respected, just not for the reasons you think.

FYI, I don't hunt, have never hunted and likely never will. I have no desire to kill anything. Despite that, I am well aware of the value of meat and where it comes from in terms of farm to plate. My opinion of hunting changed a lot with this game, from almost total hate to almost full acceptance, though only in terms of "hunt to eat"; I will never accept hunting as a "sport" nor do I agree with trophy hunting or big game hunting for cash as a "fun" thing to try. Many of those ideals still fall into poaching, in my mind. The idea of hanging real animal heads on walls or as rugs sickens me, though I might do it in a game, such practices will never impress me in real life.

In terms of gaming, however, these animals are not real, don't behave like real animals and nothing dies, trophy lodges are virtual showrooms free of blood and cruelty. So it's all fine with me, so long as it doesn't encourage people to think that real life hunting is a fun thing and that blowing away herds of wildlife to make into chandeliers is ever acceptable or ethical.

Yes, COTW is a beautiful game that can be appreciated for its design qualities.

Actually it makes even more sense if you include the slaughtering process.
Oh yea, i am fully aware of mass slaughtering and where meat comes from. This type of slaughtering is actually biggest reason to respect hunters. They dont get their meat always from slaughterhouse, like normal people do. One big animal can feed whole family for whole winter, sometimes. However.... Most of us, even myself see meat as a product, like a chocolate bar or pack of cigarettes. People dont even think that this is an animal, its packed food. While hunters always compliment the meat. "Ooo this is beautiful, from a younger animal. You know, this is great meat by just looking at it." etc. They usually respect meat and animals.
I believe that some of this respect actually comes from hunting.

also...
I dont support those idi*ts who run around and telling everyone that they are vegetarians and by this they are saving animals, open cages at random and actually dont do anything to make animal life better. They have no idea what they are doing.

so thats why.

Game itself is really good looking and i will play it when i feel like i want just to relax while doing something something. It would be great platform for survival game tho... most of them wont attract me because they usually lack realism graphic wise and thats pretty much only game where i would like to feel like i am really there and trying to survive.

[Cliffs]

I want them to introduce mountain bikes now. I am avid mountain biker IRL and the paths in this game are sweet.

I want it therefore the devs should make the game for me.... SARCASM

[dgeesio & ronMctube]

the exploring and nature aspect is a massive part of the game for me. i often spend just as much if not more doing this than hunting since call of the wild came out. it really is a beautiful game.

[=Mortequal=]

I wish they could add more to the camping aspect. Like setting up a camp fire, building a rack and drying some beef jerky. Maybe selling it for some cash..

[UncleYar]

Cliffs a écrit :

I want them to introduce mountain bikes now. I am avid mountain biker IRL and the paths in this game are sweet.

This would actually be a great idea. A bike is way more silent than a quad and therefore probably more suited for hunting. Probably. No idea if this translates to real life and where you'd safely attach the rifle, but I'd like to see it in-game, no sarcasm.

[Cliffs]

UncleYar a écrit :

Cliffs a écrit :

I want them to introduce mountain bikes now. I am avid mountain biker IRL and the paths in this game are sweet.

This would actually be a great idea. A bike is way more silent than a quad and therefore probably more suited for hunting. Probably. No idea if this translates to real life and where you'd safely attach the rifle, but I'd like to see it in-game, no sarcasm.

When I first started out in mountain biking it was to access backcountry fly fishing spots in the High Sierras of California. I had my first bike stolen when I hid it in a gully with branches for camo.

[Thermal Lance]

Trust me. Once youll have a moose rolling a 5d6 sneak attack and sending you flying high above. You'll want to shoot it.

[SubTonic]

MouldyK a écrit :

Let that be known in the 2020 Survey then like I did: https://steamcommunity.com/games/518790/announcements/detail/3454758464185599005

I would never hunt in real life, but I do like wandering the environments and try to only kill when there is a quest for it as the questgivers usually have a reason for it.

Yep, it even includes questions that give you the option of wanting more "peaceful" ways to play this game, and despite strictly shooting in it myself, I am in full favor of. The reserves and graphics and sounds are too beautiful to be just for hunting, I think. It'd be great if the reserves had other activities as well that utilized the wildlife and terrain.

[Hidden Gunman]

Dogs. Sighthounds to be exact. The player doesn't have to touch an animal until it has gone to the grazing ground in the sky.

Wouldn't say it would be a peaceful passing though.

That said though (and I am serious with it), a non-hunting option, but only as an option, would be worthwhile. It's always been a popular request, and it would give some people (such as Mrs HG) a chance to see the game as other than something that appeals to "...blood thirsty animal killers..." (She's never forgiven me for letting the rottweiler 'accidentally' catch a fox one night).

[SubTonic]

I actually just want dogs to be included so the hunts don't feel so lonely. As beautiful and serene as this game can be, the solitude can get to me after a while. Having a hunting hound companion would help, especially if it had at least semi-realistic behaviors.

[funewchie]

Hidden Gunman a écrit :

Dogs. Sighthounds to be exact. The player doesn't have to touch an animal until it has gone to the grazing ground in the sky.

Wouldn't say it would be a peaceful passing though.

That said though (and I am serious with it), a non-hunting option, but only as an option, would be worthwhile. It's always been a popular request, and it would give some people (such as Mrs HG) a chance to see the game as other than something that appeals to "...blood thirsty animal killers..." (She's never forgiven me for letting the rottweiler 'accidentally' catch a fox one night).

Hmmm...considering I've allowed my German Shepard to catch and kill raccoons, moles, and groundhogs (plus scare off deer), I suddenly feel like people would see me as a bad person.

(Not to mention letting my cat not only catch mice, but I also step back and let her play with them before she kills them (or as I say: "eh, let the cat have her sport"). Of course, once she's killed them, she leaves them alone, and I throw the dead mouse in the outside trashcan)

Hey, I'm not siccing them on the critters.
I'm just stepping back and letting nature do it's own thing.
You can't tell a predatory animal "Don't hunt" - it's in their nature.

My dog has her (fenced-in) territory, any critter that trespasses in it is fair game to her.
(Granted, it is annoying to have to grab a shovel and throw the dead critter out into the woods for the scavengers to have. Thankfully, my dog only kills the varmits, she doesn't eat them)
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But I also understand not everyone follows that school of thought.

[Alter_Schwede_62]

Z3R0, in CotW you don't HAVE to hunt.
You can hunt, but you also only can walk around and watch the Wildlife.

I do that again and again after my hunt.
I sit down, so that the animals cannot see me, and watch the animals walking by, standing around, eating a.s.o.

In privat real life I do not hunt, and I am glad about that, and I try to eat only few meat.
And if I see a deer in real life I am very glad to see it, and not have to take up the rifle and shoot it.

So I am very happy about this game with it's wonderful animals, surroundings and weather simulations.

[Sleeper C]

I bought this game because I thought it was extraordinarily beautiful. I HAD to buy it for that reason. I was NOT a hunter, I said to myself. But in the comfortable virtual world it seems that I am a hunter. I like it. Real life hunting, still no. But that’s because I do not have the patience, nor the nerves, the wolves freak me out. And I dislike bugs, sun, sweat and getting wet :-)

[funewchie]

claus_liberg a écrit :

I bought this game because I thought it was extraordinarily beautiful. I HAD to buy it for that reason. I was NOT a hunter, I said to myself. But in the comfortable virtual world it seems that I am a hunter. I like it. Real life hunting, still no. But that’s because I do not have the patience, nor the nerves, the wolves freak me out. And I dislike bugs, sun, sweat and getting wet :-)

Yeah, me too.

I'd have to be rather urgently needing food to try my hand at real-life hunting.
I'm not skilled, and I certainly don't fancy all the bugs, heat, and humidity unless I actually have a need to.

(And yeah, it goes without saying, but I don't hunt for sport. If I hunt it, it's because I intend to eat it.)