Can someone explain the scoring / trophy system?

[wombatvvv]

I don't understand it, and there does not seem to be any information in the Codex.

For example, I recently shot a huge red deer buck with a massive rack, it was classed as "8 - Mythical". The harvest before that was what (to me, looked like) a fairly average mature axis dear buck. The rating was "Very Easy" (I forget the number).

But that "very easy" axis deer rates higher than the huge mythical red deer with antlers as big as it's body (not quite). :P

Please explain. Thanks!

[LokkNar]

Some animals can have higher levels than others. E.g. red deer goe up to 9, whereas roe deer only go up to 3. But both can be diamonds. And with the new scoring system you can even get a lvl2 diamond roe whereas you don't necessarily get a lvl9 diamond red.

Generally, the level caps are 3-5-9 depending on the species.

[wombatvvv]

I'm sorry, but I don't really get it. :(

How does a 1 - Very Easy Axis deer have a higher trophy rating than an 8 - Mythical red dear buck with a massive rack?

[LokkNar]

Wait, are you talking about the actual NUMBERS? Because those are completely arbitrary, I have impression. For example an iberian wolf is a diamond at 40, but for getting a diamond wild boar you already need around 145. Fallow deer are diamond at around 252. It's not uniform for all animal, each species has its own trophy rating range. Don't know how it is with axis and red deer, though, since red deer are also in the 250ish range.

[hunterPRO1]

DEER ARE SCORED BY THEIR ANTLERS, DIFFERENT MEASUREMENTS ARE TAKEN FOR DIFFERENT SPECIES

[Galie]

Well the levels of the animals when looking at them relates to the ammo type you use, for example a rabbit would be a class 1 vs a moose which could be around a class 8 or so.

Then there's the trophy levels as well and scoring, generally speaking you want to match the ammo level to the class and get a nice single shot take down on the animal you're looking to hunt, that will help with the trophy and scoring system, if you shoot a moose with a hand gun 20 times it's score will go WAY down for example.

As you level up and get more skill points you will be able to spot the animals base trophy score and can decide which one to hunt.

The Mythical red deer should have a higher base trophy score, the "Very Easy" is more so the difficulty of the hunt, not exactly what it's worth, you might of been using the wrong ammo type for the red deer, especially if you're using the base rifle still.

I can't say for sure the exact reason why the Axis deer had more rating than the Red deer, but I hope I helped with some confusion.

[LokkNar]

@Galie
You have to be careful, the ammo type is not related to the level. For example, european bison only go to lvl5, and they are ammo class 9.

[wombatvvv]

This is all very confusing, but maybe I'm just a dummy.

Yes, I shot the red deer with the base rifle. Oops. I thought it was under-powered for such a beast, but the little icons next to the ammo type clearly show a red deer. Perfect vital organ hit though...

[LokkNar]

@wombatvvv
Don't look at the icon, look at the ammo CLASS. Although the base rifle should be enough for red deer, as they are class 6 and .243 is rated for 2-6.

[Striker]

Easy, Very Easy, Medium, Hard, Very Hard are terms that describe how sensitive an animal is to the sight of you, your stink and your visibility. It has nothing to do with the trophy score of an animal. Don't let it confuse you.

If you look under the Trophy Rating shown on the harvest screen a drop box lists the min score necessary for an animal of the same species to be scored as a Bronze, Silver, Gold or Diamond (the highest medal rating). The closer your animals trophy score is to the diamond medal the higher it will score. You are complaining about different species not being scored the same way and that my friend is like complaining because apples don't taste like oranges.

[LokkNar]

Originally posted by Autobot:

Easy, Very Easy, Medium, Hard, Very Hard are terms that describe how sensitive an animal is to the sight of you, your stink and your visibility. It has nothing to do with the trophy score of an animal. Don't let it confuse you.

If you look under the Trophy Rating shown on the harvest screen a drop box lists the min score necessary for an animal of the same species to be scored as a Bronze, Silver, Gold or Diamond (the highest medal rating). The closer your animals trophy score is to the diamond medal the higher it will score. You are complaining about different species not being scored the same way and that my friend is like complaining because apples don't taste like oranges.

But the sensitivity of an animal is directly tied to its trophy score. A lvl9 red deer will ALWAYS be more cautious than a lvl4 one. And a lvl5 ibex is as sensitive as a lvl9 fox or red deer.

[Machin Shin]

this sheet will also help :

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2068164737

[Striker]

The difficulty rating of animal does not contribute a single point to an animals trophy score so it is not directly tied to it. The only place it does contributes numerically is in the "Session Score". It's more of a hand in glove relationship. The level of the animal appears to be driven by weight more often than it is by horn/antler/skull or fang size. It's why we are much more likely to harvest a max level animal that is not a diamond than we are to harvest one that is and why we oftentimes see animals of two different levels wearing the same trophy range in the spot. It would therefor be more accurate to say that the animals difficulty rating is directly tied to it's level rather than it's trophy score.

[wombatvvv]

Originally posted by Autobot:

Easy, Very Easy, Medium, Hard, Very Hard are terms that describe how sensitive an animal is to the sight of you, your stink and your visibility. It has nothing to do with the trophy score of an animal. Don't let it confuse you.

If you look under the Trophy Rating shown on the harvest screen a drop box lists the min score necessary for an animal of the same species to be scored as a Bronze, Silver, Gold or Diamond (the highest medal rating). The closer your animals trophy score is to the diamond medal the higher it will score. You are complaining about different species not being scored the same way and that my friend is like complaining because apples don't taste like oranges.

Thanks for you help. For the record, I'm not complaining about anything at all (at least not on this topic) ... I'm just trying to understand. :)

[Kentobu]

I also spent a while getting my head wrapped around this so I'll try to help by making this as simple as I think it is possible to do so.

"Level" : This is what you referred to seeing when you saw a level 8 red deer. Level is essentially how high quality or how big that animal is (usually meaning bigger weight and rack). Different animals have different levels. For example:

Red deer max at level 9.
Whitetail max at level 5.

This means that the levels aren't directly comparable. A level 4 whitetail is a better trophy than a level 4 red deer for instance, since it is closer to the max of it's species.

I hope that makes sense. If it doesn't let me know and I'll try to elaborate a bit more for you! :)

[wombatvvv]

Originally posted by Kentobu:

I also spent a while getting my head wrapped around this so I'll try to help by making this as simple as I think it is possible to do so.

"Level" : This is what you referred to seeing when you saw a level 8 red deer. Level is essentially how high quality or how big that animal is (usually meaning bigger weight and rack). Different animals have different levels. For example:

Red deer max at level 9.
Whitetail max at level 5.

This means that the levels aren't directly comparable. A level 4 whitetail is a better trophy than a level 4 red deer for instance, since it is closer to the max of it's species.

I hope that makes sense. If it doesn't let me know and I'll try to elaborate a bit more for you! :)

Sure does make sense, thanks for that.


I get what you explained about the levels, and them being relative, but there's still some information missing. I'm still confused how a "Very Easy" axis dear could be "worth" more than a "mythical" red dear.