WTF why my direct hits dont even TOUCH the damn animal?!?!

[Ripz]

So this has happened a few times now, and people said it's because I was prone and sometimes shots dont work properly when you shoot proned. Well, this time I was crouching, only thing obstructing my view was tiny branches and leaves (even though I aimed in empty space between). I spent 15 minutes sneaking around a moose to get a perfect shot. I finally get there, im <40 meters from it, i equip my .270, equip penetration ammo, it's not even moving, it's just standing there, i hold breath, carefully aim dead center for a double lung shot, and fire. Scope returns to position and he's still just standing there. A second later he runs away.

I check exactly where he was standing. Not a single drop of blood. I follow his trail, which consists of no blood, and manage to track him down and luckily i see him walking by. He walks into my crosshairs ~100 meters or less and again i land a hit about center lung from the side, maybe a bit higher up than that. Check the blood splat, non-vital organ hit. Well,there's no other organs above the lung and i definitely didnt hit his brain. I track his blood, find his corpse, and check the damage. The only hit that registered was the second one, and it landed on his intestines.

Um wtf. How do I fix this. What if it was a rare? I'd be so damn pissed off. Does this just happen sometimes or is there something wrong with my game? I feel like this should be as tight as possible considering how rare animals are to begin with and the whole point of the game is to land accurate hits. Like, did my shot bounce off a bullet-proof leaf or something?? Even if I DID hit a leaf or branch (which I didnt) shouldn't they NOT block your damn shots?? Isn't that the whole point of beaing all stealthy and climbing into bushes and ♥♥♥♥? If vegetation has an invisible force field of adamantium around every tree and bush, then why does the game encourage climbing inside them so damn much? Just to block all your shots and piss you off? And why did my second shot lag so far behind? How thick is the air in this game that bullets travel that slow to hit his ass when i aim for his chest walking <100 meters away?

Yeah this a rant but seriously wtf. Is there any way to fix this?? Seems kinda important in a hunting game, especially this one where it takes forever to position for those perfect hits.

[SouthernMan1972]

Shooting between trees, branches, twigs is always risky. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. I rarely attempt it. I figure if the bullet grazes a stick, that can throw it off just enough to make it miss.

Shooting a laterally moving animal will always land the shot a little further back than where you aimed. It can definitely turn a lung shot into an intestine shot.

[astreamuser]

I've had the exact same incidence today. However, in my case, i don't recall anything obstructing my view at all.

It could be another bug. Or it could have happened because precision aiming in complex environments never works as expected. Bounding boxes are invisible and sometimes our guess can be completely off.

Either way, i suck it up and move on.

[bunny de fluff]

In reality, some bullet can break a small tree and still hit the target, their penetrating power is too high. In this game, the smallest stick can stop the most powerful bullet in the world.

[Pinger]

Originally posted by bunny de fluff:

In reality, some bullet can break a small tree and still hit the target, their penetrating power is too high. In this game, the smallest stick can stop the most powerful bullet in the world.

no they can't, this isn't CoD or Battlefield. All it takes is a green leaf to change to path of a round, a branch is worse. The round if a high velocity can disintegrate hitting a branch

[bunny de fluff]

Originally posted by Pinger:

Originally posted by bunny de fluff:

In reality, some bullet can break a small tree and still hit the target, their penetrating power is too high. In this game, the smallest stick can stop the most powerful bullet in the world.

no they can't, this isn't CoD or Battlefield. All it takes is a green leaf to change to path of a round, a branch is worse. The round if a high velocity can disintegrate hitting a branch

Some bullet types can kill 2 or 3 targets if lined up, so no, ballistic not so easily changed by a green leaf my friend.

[Pinger]

Originally posted by bunny de fluff:

Originally posted by Pinger:

no they can't, this isn't CoD or Battlefield. All it takes is a green leaf to change to path of a round, a branch is worse. The round if a high velocity can disintegrate hitting a branch

Some bullet types can kill 2 or 3 targets if lined up, so no, ballistic not so easily changed by a green leaf my friend.

Your reply tells me you have never hunted or you would know this. so @OP don't shoot through grass/branches/leaves in game as same result

[Vault Traveler]

While we all agree that the penetration through leafs should work and unfortunatly the game has the weirdest Treehitboxes, its not completly out of the books that even a branch can hinder a bullet.

But to translate it to the game, do not shoot through leafs and needles.

[Vampire]

Indeed - this is a RL issue with the .270 round, very flat and fast but the smallest branch can deflect it. I use a .270 here in New Zealand and you have to be very careful if you are in the brush.
The .308 is much better and we call it the 'cannon ball' as the ballistics are far worse than the .270 - but it is a tried and true round that hits like a truck - if you aim properly. Sticks and leaves not a problem for .308 round.

[DerrickDude]

The Op failed to mention if he was in a multi player map or playing on his own map. If he was in a map that he wasn't hosting he could have been lagging which will produce the symptoms he described.

[Ripz]

Originally posted by DerrickDude:

The Op failed to mention if he was in a multi player map or playing on his own map. If he was in a map that he wasn't hosting he could have been lagging which will produce the symptoms he described.

Singleplayer. If it was MP i would've blamed lag for sure.

[Findus]

To the best of my knowledge and according to my experience, in game:

Leaves and small branches mapped on planes will not block shots.
Full geometry branches/stems can block shots, sometimes beyond their visible representation as their hitboxes can be bigger, as was pointed out.
As far as I can tell, there is no mechanism for deflecting or slowing down shots. They either pass unhindered or are blocked. Terminal ballistics when hitting an animal excluded. You will only hit one animal per bullet, though (but e.g. bird shot has multiple bullets).

You have to lead your shots quite a bit, even on targets that are "only" walking. The closer an animal is, the shorter the bullet travels, but also the more angular distance the animal has moved in any given time. Add to that your reaction time and possible lag by the game.

Animal hitboxes sometimes do funky stuff. Probably because the actual hit is inferred from the hitbox. However, that happens rarely.

Animation transitions (e.g. lying down or standing up) are prone to errors/lag and increase the chance of something funky happening.

Sometimes guns simply don't seem to fire on the first shot even allowing for the possibility that some of those reports are linked to blocked shots. Had some of those cases myself, but for me, that happens very, very rarely.

[DrTuSo]

Most of the bushes have gigantic hit boxes. That was a problem from the start in 2017. Same goes for trees. I have dozen of screenshots of arrows sticking in the invisible hitbox in the middle of the air next to trees.

Rule number one for Call of the Bug: Never aim close to anything, it is 100% bullet proof.

[Ezz777]

Sounds similar to a bug I've had a few times. The animal seems to get glitched or stuck in terrain yet still be visible. However any shots you take don't seem to register. It's a rare bug to be fair but it's the sort that I got sick of. Doubt they'll ever get on top of it as I'm pretty sure it would be hard to replicate.

[DeadlyFred]

I've actually been getting this a lot lately myself. I've had a solid handful of times over the past week or two I've lined up a clear shot on a stationary target and just... not gotten a hit at all. Frustrating and odd.

[bunny de fluff]

Originally posted by DrTuSo:

Most of the bushes have gigantic hit boxes. That was a problem from the start in 2017. Same goes for trees. I have dozen of screenshots of arrows sticking in the invisible hitbox in the middle of the air next to trees.

Rule number one for Call of the Bug: Never aim close to anything, it is 100% bullet proof.

I totally agree with this post above .