Roosevelt Elk vs .270

[TK421]

So I snuck up on a Elk laying down, from like 10 feet away, with my .270 rifle and .270 soft ammo, I shot him right between the eyes. He jumped up and ran off, so I looked at the blood splatter and it said "No Vital Organs Hit" "Slow bleed". hmm ok.. So I then followed his blood trail for what seemed like forever. Then all of a sudden the blood trail stopped and his tracks did a 180 degrees and started leading me back to the direction from where I first shot him.

I eventually gave up after an hour of looking. Is this how this game is meant to be? Because with that shot, IMO he should have kicked and never got up in the first place.

[hunterPRO1]

most weapons have way below the penetration levels they have irl.

[TK421]

Yes i noticed that, but for him to not ever drop... that sounds pretty messed up to me. Well if he isn't dead, hes gonna need a seeing ear dog to get around. Geez.

[Ezz777]

A couple things. First best to learn about how the vital system works. Lungs are your best bet. Second try to use the ammo with more penetration on each gun. And finally Layton is bugged at the moment, especially with elk corpses.

[TK421]

So one of the two main maps for the game, is bugged. But they just released a new DLC. Well that makes sense.

[BJWyler]

Originally posted by Jahy:

Elk is class 8, .270 is 4-8. It can kill an Elk ethically but it doesn't have enough power to penetrate Elk skull.

This right here. Unless you get good vital hits on Elk and Moose, they ain't going down. I wasted many hours as a noob tracking wounded elk and moose literally across the entire Layton map to no avail. If they don't drop within 10 seconds of shooting them, it's not worth the effort.

[yogisgoat]

There's something else to bear in mind. I believe the trophy organ for elk is the head so headshots will never produce a diamond trophy because you're damaging the trophy organ. Someone correct me if I'm mistaken.

[Challie63]

From 10 feet away, you really should have aimed for the Heart!!! Skull shots have been ineffective for about 18 months now, at the least! YOU messed that shot up, dude, not the game.

[Bowfin]

Originally posted by yogisgoat:

There's something else to bear in mind. I believe the trophy organ for elk is the head so headshots will never produce a diamond trophy because you're damaging the trophy organ. Someone correct me if I'm mistaken.

That sounds correct, headshots are not very favorable and I would advise you not to use them unless your shooting at an alligator.

[Hidden Gunman]

It's gamey, but use the purple hunting pressure indicator. If it doesn't show after a reasonable time you could be chasing till you get a dead end.

[jjs82xx]

The .270 against Roosevelt Elk is "iffy" regardless of ammo; and even more so without the poly tip. Shooting at the top end of your range with the .270 needs almost a perfect side shot to the lungs/heart. The 7mm (when you unlock it) is a lot more forgiving. Even with all the fancy DLC guns I have, I still enjoy the 7mm. The 7mm, .300 or heavier is almost a must for Class 7 and larger,

[Defiant Dan]

Originally posted by Big.Bear:

So I snuck up on a Elk laying down, from like 10 feet away, with my .270 rifle and .270 soft ammo, I shot him right between the eyes. He jumped up and ran off, so I looked at the blood splatter and it said "No Vital Organs Hit" "Slow bleed". hmm ok.. So I then followed his blood trail for what seemed like forever. Then all of a sudden the blood trail stopped and his tracks did a 180 degrees and started leading me back to the direction from where I first shot him.

I eventually gave up after an hour of looking. Is this how this game is meant to be? Because with that shot, IMO he should have kicked and never got up in the first place.

You dont shoot Animals in the Head....
Specially Animals who are designed to ram when they fight, they have thick skulls, small brain in relation to skull size, and skull surface angles which makes it very very likely that the bullet carves out some Bone and then glances off.
Basicallly like you can see in all the Armor Pen. Simulations on Youtube.
The Pointy Bullet impacts, then the heavier base of the Bullet wants to turn forward, so yawing starts, and when base of the Bullet touches the Skull it rides along and glances off.

Also it ruins the Trophy

In real , when you want to make the Maximum of the Animal, sell Meat to Restaurant and preserve the Antlers... then you make a "Ständerschuss" like we call that in Germany, so you shoot trough the Neckbones. Works very good in Game too even with Mushrooming Ammo Types.

[hunterPRO1]

a 22 will easily penetrate skulls irl, i use it to put down 400lb boars in traps, ive certainly never had one walk of with the bullet.

a 270 "not penetrating" the skull of an elk or moose is a ludicrous idea.

[DanthemanBoone]

This situation has nothing to do with real life skull thicknesses or real life bullet penetrations.
It was a decision made by the devs in the earliest days of the hunter, that has been carried over to Call of the wild. By the team that developed the game. The Call of the wild original development team were mostly transferred from the hunter to build Call of the wild.

The original Hunter devs decided that head shots were risky and unethical in hunting and made the head hard and the brain hitbox small as a way to discourage players from taking that shot. In the same way that they have downgraded the scoring system and made unrealistic results for spine shots in Call of the wild.

Like hunterPRO1, I have used .22LR extensively to kill cows, bulls and horses for home meat butchery or dog tucker by shooting them in the head. Never had a fail.

[kubanskiloewe]

exactly...head shots are irl a kill even with small calipers

[Defiant Dan]

Originally posted by hunterPRO1:

a 22 will easily penetrate skulls irl, i use it to put down 400lb boars in traps, ive certainly never had one walk of with the bullet.

a 270 "not penetrating" the skull of an elk or moose is a ludicrous idea.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rI0l29YGA-c