7mm vs 303. vs m1 garand vs 30.06 vs 270

[shit owl]

so idk why or if there is some hidden stat but i know all these has the same penetration which is the closest stat you get to one called damage that is not there but my question is is it just me or does the 7mm just feel like it can drop animals better than each of the other rifles like its really weird and makes no sense due to all the guns having nearly identical stats except from maybe the 270 iirc has a bit less pen than these other ones and ofc im referring to poly rounds and for the 7mm 303 m1 and 30.06 is all 40 yet it just feels like a red deer for example if you hit a perfect double lung with the 7mm ur prob gonna insta kill it but with the others you don't same with pronghorn or blacktails except u only need to hit a single lung on them to do it with the 7mm even tho with the others they might run a little bit

[Falcon]

Don't ignore the expansion stat either because both of them determine how fast the animal will go down.

There is a very noticeable jump between the .270 and the other guns on your list. Anything class 6 or higher seems to run forever after being shot with .270. Even class 4 animals will run a ways if you're shooting over 200m.

I also notice a smaller difference between the 7mm/.303, and the .30-06/M1 when hunting class 6 or bigger animals. They have a little more predictable penetration, and the animals go down quicker if you're shooting over 150m.

I don't notice any difference at all between the 7mm and the .303. They both hammer class 4-6 animals. The .303 is a little easier to make shots over 250m with. They're both a little underpowered shooting class 7 or bigger animals, but either one will do in a pinch for black bear or moose.

[Neo-Rey]

I feel that the eckers 30.06 does a better job than the 7mm. it's accurate and the penetration is good,even from a long distance. It's by far my most favorite rifle of them all. The M1 garand is a close second though.

[shit owl]

well yeah the only thing that makes the 303 better than the 30.06 is the expansion stat honestly

[dbump]

Unlike the others you list, the 7mm is rated up to class 9 animals, so that may explain what you are noticing? Not that I'd use it for 9s, personally.

[shit owl]

well about that sure it might feel that way to you but it hasn't been my experience but it does still make me wonder if there is a hidden dmg stat or something cuz the 7mm is just better at killing those class 6 animals

[shit owl]

Originally posted by dbump:

Unlike the others you list, the 7mm is rated up to class 9 animals, so that may explain what you are noticing? Not that I'd use it for 9s, personally.

im well aware of that but no that doesn't exactly explain it i mean the 50 cal muzzle loader has 2 balls the 1 for 3-7 has 40 pen the one for 4-8 has 30 but still my problem is just how much better the 7mm feels when only going for 1 shot ofc i mean ofc i feel like since it is break action afterall it should also have an edge in stopping power and i could drag the 300 mag into this aswell the ammo for it has 42 pen which is 2 more than the 7mm yet i smh still feel as if the 7mm does a better job on bisons etc more often than not idk what it is

[shit owl]

also i sadly even tho it still is one of the best if not the overall best rifle in the game barely use it anymore only if i need to bring a bow because then i can drop my 4-8 aswell as 7-9 weapons

[Falcon]

Originally posted by ♥♥♥♥ owl:

well yeah the only thing that makes the 303 better than the 30.06 is the expansion stat honestly

The accuracy also. If I'm using the Argus scope, I notice the added wobble on the .30-06 guns and the 7mm when I'm zoomed all the way in. Makes it a little tougher to hit those 250-350m shots all the way across the lakes.

[shit owl]

Originally posted by Falcon:

Originally posted by ♥♥♥♥ owl:

well yeah the only thing that makes the 303 better than the 30.06 is the expansion stat honestly

The accuracy also. If I'm using the Argus scope, I notice the added wobble on the .30-06 guns and the 7mm when I'm zoomed all the way in. Makes it a little tougher to hit those 250-350m shots all the way across the lakes.

i can testify to the m1 garand don't remember it being a problem with the eckers so count me out on that one but for the 7mm in my experience it's not more wobbly than the 303

[Pete Gaimari]

Originally posted by ♥♥♥♥ owl:

Originally posted by dbump:

Unlike the others you list, the 7mm is rated up to class 9 animals, so that may explain what you are noticing? Not that I'd use it for 9s, personally.

im well aware of that but no that doesn't exactly explain it i mean the 50 cal muzzle loader has 2 balls the 1 for 3-7 has 40 pen the one for 4-8 has 30 but still my problem is just how much better the 7mm feels when only going for 1 shot ofc i mean ofc i feel like since it is break action afterall it should also have an edge in stopping power and i could drag the 300 mag into this aswell the ammo for it has 42 pen which is 2 more than the 7mm yet i smh still feel as if the 7mm does a better job on bisons etc more often than not idk what it is

Are you talking about a 7mm or 7mm mag? The mag is more powerful in real life than the other rounds you're comparing to.

For the muzzleloader it doesn't have two balls. It's only one ball and the other is a conical that is much heavier than the ball and a much better BC. It will shoot farther and hit harder than than the ball. The ball loses speed and energy fast. Much much faster than the conical.

[shit owl]

Originally posted by petegaimari:

Originally posted by ♥♥♥♥ owl:

im well aware of that but no that doesn't exactly explain it i mean the 50 cal muzzle loader has 2 balls the 1 for 3-7 has 40 pen the one for 4-8 has 30 but still my problem is just how much better the 7mm feels when only going for 1 shot ofc i mean ofc i feel like since it is break action afterall it should also have an edge in stopping power and i could drag the 300 mag into this aswell the ammo for it has 42 pen which is 2 more than the 7mm yet i smh still feel as if the 7mm does a better job on bisons etc more often than not idk what it is

Are you talking about a 7mm or 7mm mag? The mag is more powerful in real life than the other rounds you're comparing to.

For the muzzleloader it doesn't have two balls. It's only one ball and the other is a conical that is much heavier than the ball and a much better BC. It will shoot farther and hit harder than than the ball. The ball loses speed and energy fast. Much much faster than the conical.

im literally refering to stuff that is in the game and that is a fact that there are 2 balls for the muzzleloader

[shit owl]

Originally posted by Falcon:

Originally posted by ♥♥♥♥ owl:

well yeah the only thing that makes the 303 better than the 30.06 is the expansion stat honestly

The accuracy also. If I'm using the Argus scope, I notice the added wobble on the .30-06 guns and the 7mm when I'm zoomed all the way in. Makes it a little tougher to hit those 250-350m shots all the way across the lakes.

also just now on srp i went to the two fawns outpost and shot some bighorn across the lake who were 300 and some a bit further away with the 303 idk why its the first time but i felt like it totally missed as if i was using the 338 smh it was surreal how bad it was i don't remember it being this bad at range if anything i remember it being more accurate than the m1 but doesn't seem to be in the cards for me

[Falcon]

Originally posted by ♥♥♥♥ owl:

Originally posted by Falcon:

The accuracy also. If I'm using the Argus scope, I notice the added wobble on the .30-06 guns and the 7mm when I'm zoomed all the way in. Makes it a little tougher to hit those 250-350m shots all the way across the lakes.

also just now on srp i went to the two fawns outpost and shot some bighorn across the lake who were 300 and some a bit further away with the 303 idk why its the first time but i felt like it totally missed as if i was using the 338 smh it was surreal how bad it was i don't remember it being this bad at range if anything i remember it being more accurate than the m1 but doesn't seem to be in the cards for me

Weird. I can double-lung pronghorns with it all day at 300-350m. Maybe you're just not used to shooting with it anymore?

[shit owl]

Originally posted by Falcon:

Originally posted by ♥♥♥♥ owl:

also just now on srp i went to the two fawns outpost and shot some bighorn across the lake who were 300 and some a bit further away with the 303 idk why its the first time but i felt like it totally missed as if i was using the 338 smh it was surreal how bad it was i don't remember it being this bad at range if anything i remember it being more accurate than the m1 but doesn't seem to be in the cards for me

Weird. I can double-lung pronghorns with it all day at 300-350m. Maybe you're just not used to shooting with it anymore?

nooo its not that im confident in my shooting the m1 just works better for me smh and that's even tho im a sucker for bolt actions which is the sad part

[Pete Gaimari]

Originally posted by ♥♥♥♥ owl:

Originally posted by petegaimari:

Are you talking about a 7mm or 7mm mag? The mag is more powerful in real life than the other rounds you're comparing to.

For the muzzleloader it doesn't have two balls. It's only one ball and the other is a conical that is much heavier than the ball and a much better BC. It will shoot farther and hit harder than than the ball. The ball loses speed and energy fast. Much much faster than the conical.

im literally refering to stuff that is in the game and that is a fact that there are 2 balls for the muzzleloader

They might call it a mini ball but it's not a round ball but a conical. So, one round ball and one conical. The conical called a mini ball it much more powerful.