Wild boar caller?

[Ptolemy]

Has anyone actually had any luck with these things? I just had two experiences in a row of using it in the direct movement path of a boar herd from full cover, and none of the traveling boar reacted to my calls at all, they just trotted on by like I wasn't even there.

[FishBowl]

I do have succes with callers, any of them in fact but i guess it depends at what moment in time you were calling them, if they were on their way to a need zone i find they usually dont pay attention, so i follow them. :)

[hunterPRO1]

works exactly the same as all the rest, except deer bleat and deer grunt which are slightly different.

[Ptolemy]

I only ask because I've attracted roe and fallow deer extremely consistently and foxes fairly consistently with their respective callers, but I've only ever observed boar ignoring their caller.

Publicado originalmente por Flatbow:

I do have succes with callers, any of them in fact but i guess it depends at what moment in time you were calling them, if they were on their way to a need zone i find they usually dont pay attention, so i follow them. :)

I was under the impression that animals were always either on their way to a need zone or at a need zone (or fleeing the player... or occasionally glitching out and trotting continually in circles or into a tree or rock).

[Nightwalker]

It's true that the animals that are not are eating, drinking or resting are probably headed to a place where they can do one of those things. Which one depends upon the time of day/night. It seems to me that the closer it is to the start of a need zones posted hours the less likely an animal will be inclined to respond to a caller. Sounds like you found a bunch that were headed somewhere like a squad of soldiers headed for a mission briefing. Forget about using the caller on those. Track them and find out where they were headed in such a hurry. Odds are they'll do exactly the same thing at about the same time the next day.

[DanthemanBoone]

You realise the caller has a limited range. About half of the render range. so if they are 300 yrds away they wont respond even though you can see them plainly.

[Ptolemy]

Publicado originalmente por DanthemanBoone:

You realise the caller has a limited range. About half of the render range. so if they are 300 yrds away they wont respond even though you can see them plainly.

Yes, I do realise that, I'm not an idiot. The boar caller's range is meant to be 200m according to its inventory stats. I also know how to use a rangefinder, so I can be 100% certain that I've had boar saunter past me ignoring my calls when they were well within the effective range of the caller.

[briansaxton]

Each caller has a reaction stat. None of them are 100. From what I understand, that means that sometimes animals will be attracted and sometimes they won't. I've had good luck with the boar caller, but as with other callers, sometimes animals will ignore (and, with the right perk, sometimes animals you don't expect come running).

[Ptolemy]

Publicado originalmente por briansaxton:

Each caller has a reaction stat. None of them are 100. From what I understand, that means that sometimes animals will be attracted and sometimes they won't. I've had good luck with the boar caller, but as with other callers, sometimes animals will ignore (and, with the right perk, sometimes animals you don't expect come running).

I have 2/2 Fatal Attraction, and the boar caller appears to have exactly the same strength stat as the roe caller, antler rattler, and predator jackrabbit caller (40 in all cases), none of which I'm experiencing this issue with. I've actually done a bunch more testing since starting this thread and somehow haven't gotten a boar to react to a call even once. This is in Hirschfelden.

[CrazyGecko]

I find the callers to be less effective if the animal has been making warning calls. Any chance you may have spooked them by accident?

[Ptolemy]

Publicado originalmente por CrazyGecko:

I find the callers to be less effective if the animal has been making warning calls. Any chance you may have spooked them by accident?

Nope. I have 3/3 Spotting Knowledge as well so I know when they're alert. When I said they trotted past me like I wasn't even there, I meant that literally - I've had herds of 6+ boar stroll past my position, less than 60m away from me, while I'm frantically blaring the caller at them to no avail whatsoever. They have no reaction to my presence even while I'm screaming at them through a piece of hose nonstop from a swimming pool's length away.

[CaptainNebulous]

Publicado originalmente por Ptolemy:

Publicado originalmente por CrazyGecko:

I find the callers to be less effective if the animal has been making warning calls. Any chance you may have spooked them by accident?

Nope. I have 3/3 Spotting Knowledge as well so I know when they're alert. When I said they trotted past me like I wasn't even there, I meant that literally - I've had herds of 6+ boar stroll past my position, less than 60m away from me, while I'm frantically blaring the caller at them to no avail whatsoever. They have no reaction to my presence even while I'm screaming at them through a piece of hose nonstop from a swimming pool's length away.

Most callers max out after 4 rapid uses. Some of them have detrimental effects if you use them more than that before the caller's advertised timer runs out.

They are not intended to be perfect, either. There is always the chance that the animal doesn't care or "knows" it's fake.

Also if you used the caller in another location first, often times the animals will go to that location before moving to where you are using the caller now. They work a lot like scents in the way that the animals will go to the location it was used, not the player location... except their range is the same in all directions, as opposed to scents who's range stretches with the direction/strength of the wind.

You'll notice some species.... specifically boar species and most of the predators will often times be paranoid when coming to a call. Often times they'll take a very indirect path to get to where they were called, or make sure to not go directly to it. Some species are just a lot more sketched out than others. I find that boar species act kind of like an in-between of bear and fox. Sometimes they're dumb like bear, other times they are super careful like fox/coyote/puma

[Ptolemy]

Publicado originalmente por CaptainNebulous:

Most callers max out after 4 rapid uses. Some of them have detrimental effects if you use them more than that before the caller's advertised timer runs out.

They are not intended to be perfect, either. There is always the chance that the animal doesn't care or "knows" it's fake.

Also if you used the caller in another location first, often times the animals will go to that location before moving to where you are using the caller now. They work a lot like scents in the way that the animals will go to the location it was used, not the player location... except their range is the same in all directions, as opposed to scents who's range stretches with the direction/strength of the wind.

You'll notice some species.... specifically boar species and most of the predators will often times be paranoid when coming to a call. Often times they'll take a very indirect path to get to where they were called, or make sure to not go directly to it. Some species are just a lot more sketched out than others. I find that boar species act kind of like an in-between of bear and fox. Sometimes they're dumb like bear, other times they are super careful like fox/coyote/puma

Yeah, I have noticed differences in caller response behaviour. On Hirschfelden it's most clear when comparing roe deer and red fox, since roe deer just trot right up to you with occasional brief pauses and foxes slowly pad around you in a big, wide berth on their approach. So it might be a behavioural difference in how boars respond to callers, but I swear it seems like they don't care about them at all for me. Usually I wait until an animal pauses to take a shot at it but the boars just keep trotting...

I just want to clarify re the caller maxing out thing, is that confirmed? I'd been operating under the assumption that it doesn't matter how frequently you use callers based on various other posts I'd read about it making no difference how often you call.

[Nightwalker]

In the only post made by a dev that I've seen he said that there is no such thing as over-calling in this game. That being said, there is a point where it's pointless to continue. The animal is going to begin to respond within 90 seconds or it is not. Some animals take longer to get to you than others. I'll usually hit a caller once, wait 1 min. Call again, wait. If an animal hasn't appeared within 3-4 min after that 2nd burst then it's time to move on.

[Polskija]

I think the animals have some sort of preference rating to stuff in this game. Like some animals are more likely to stop what they're doing and come check out the caller. Boars seem to ignore it when they're doing stuff that's more important where as fallow deers and roe deers and moose seem to always be curious.