3-pin bow sight and zeroing

[Void Chosen]

I've been googling like crazy about this but the answers are very unclear on my searches. Some hunters claim that zeroing with the 3 pin is always the middle pin but I beg to differ. At close range when I aim for the lungs the arrow always hit a leg, even when I zero in on 20 and it's driving me nuts.
Should I just turn off the zeroing when using the 3 pin?
I heard that the 5 pin is more accurate even if zeroing.

[MetalMind85]

When I zero at 20 meters and aim the middle dot it is always the hit so don't know what you could do wrong. You have the Parque Fernando reserve? There is a bow range in the center lodge worth checking it.

If you don't have that reserve... just walk away 20 meters from a... door, toilet for example and shoot it and see where the arrow hits.

[Void Chosen]

Originally posted by metalmind85:

When I zero at 20 meters and aim the middle dot it is always the hit so don't know what you could do wrong. You have the Parque Fernando reserve? There is a bow range in the center lodge worth checking it.

If you don't have that reserve... just walk away 20 meters from a... door, toilet for example and shoot it and see where the arrow hits.

Yup just tried it and it does hit a bit lower than the middle pin for me with the 70 bow. Maybe it's because of that since it has a flatter trajectory curve. I'm also using the 420 grain arrows.

[MetalMind85]

That is strange. Maybe there is problem with a specific bow? Which bow do you use? And regarding arrows, every type of arrows I use hits precisely to 20 meters when zeroed to it. I rarely shoot above 40 meters so can't say much about arrow drop with different arrows.

[Void Chosen]

Originally posted by metalmind85:

That is strange. Maybe there is problem with a specific bow? Which bow do you use? And regarding arrows, every type of arrows I use hits precisely to 20 meters when zeroed to it. I rarely shoot above 40 meters so can't say much about arrow drop with different arrows.

I use the 70lb (Hawk Edge). Maybe I'll just go back to the standard bow sight until I can get the 5 pin.

[Sparky862]

Top Pin Close Range
Middle Pin Medium
Lower Pin Long Range

So, if you have 2/2 Zeroing Perk

Top Pin 20m
Middle Pin 40m
Lower Pin 60m

So that would mean that anything closer than 20m you use the top pin.

Anything else inbetween you compensate for it. So if the Animal is 15m, you should use the top pin but aim a bit lower where you want to hit.

If Animal is 50m, you use the middle and lower pin so that the Animal is inbetween the two pins where 50m would be give or take.

[Void Chosen]

Originally posted by Sparky862:

Top Pin Close Range
Middle Pin Medium
Lower Pin Long Range

So, if you have 2/2 Zeroing Perk

Top Pin 20m
Middle Pin 40m
Lower Pin 60m

So that would mean that anything closer than 20m you use the top pin.

Anything else inbetween you compensate for it. So if the Animal is 15m, you should use the top pin but aim a bit lower where you want to hit.

If Animal is 50m, you use the middle and lower pin so that the Animal is inbetween the two pins where 50m would be give or take.

Thanks, I'll try this. Do you use the crossbow? It zeroes in to 10-30-50 but I hit pretty accurately using only the top dot and zeroing in the animal distance.

[Sparky862]

Originally posted by Void Chosen:

Originally posted by Sparky862:

Top Pin Close Range
Middle Pin Medium
Lower Pin Long Range

So, if you have 2/2 Zeroing Perk

Top Pin 20m
Middle Pin 40m
Lower Pin 60m

So that would mean that anything closer than 20m you use the top pin.

Anything else inbetween you compensate for it. So if the Animal is 15m, you should use the top pin but aim a bit lower where you want to hit.

If Animal is 50m, you use the middle and lower pin so that the Animal is inbetween the two pins where 50m would be give or take.

Thanks, I'll try this. Do you use the crossbow? It zeroes in to 10-30-50 but I hit pretty accurately using only the top dot and zeroing in the animal distance.

Crossbow uses the same method as above.

At 30m or closer the top dot will hit accurate because you compinsate for the bolt. The top dot is actually for 10m.

So when the animal is 20m, and you aim with top dot which is 10m, you will hit slightly below where it was intended to hit. At a closer range it is not that much noticeable.

When you use the top dot which is ment for 10m at a distance of 40m, you will start to notice that you have to aim slightly higher than usual to get a direct hit.

Thought the crossbow has so much force, I doubt at short range it will make any noticeable diffs whether you use top or middle dot for anything within a 40m Range.

[MetalMind85]

Originally posted by Sparky862:

Top Pin Close Range
Middle Pin Medium
Lower Pin Long Range

So, if you have 2/2 Zeroing Perk

Top Pin 20m
Middle Pin 40m
Lower Pin 60m

So that would mean that anything closer than 20m you use the top pin.

Anything else inbetween you compensate for it. So if the Animal is 15m, you should use the top pin but aim a bit lower where you want to hit.

If Animal is 50m, you use the middle and lower pin so that the Animal is inbetween the two pins where 50m would be give or take.

I just saw your post and thought that I swear the center pin is for 20 meters when zeroed to 20. So I just tested it in range in PF... sorry but can't confirm your information. In my case the center pin (the yellow one) is for zeroed range. So when I zeroed at 20 I hit bull's eye on that range. Then I checked 40 meters... zeroed to 40, center pin, shoot... again hit bull's eye. That is my experience.

[HazardousMatt]

There is a trick with the 5 pin bow sight up to 60m. Align the 4th pin with the bottom of the chest of the animal and it should hit the lungs every time up to 60m. You can test this by either at the range at Hirschfelden or Parque Fernando by aligning the 4th pin along the bottom of the black circle at any range up to 60m. Try it.

[Sparky862]

Originally posted by MetalMind85:

Originally posted by Sparky862:

Top Pin Close Range
Middle Pin Medium
Lower Pin Long Range

So, if you have 2/2 Zeroing Perk

Top Pin 20m
Middle Pin 40m
Lower Pin 60m

So that would mean that anything closer than 20m you use the top pin.

Anything else inbetween you compensate for it. So if the Animal is 15m, you should use the top pin but aim a bit lower where you want to hit.

If Animal is 50m, you use the middle and lower pin so that the Animal is inbetween the two pins where 50m would be give or take.

I just saw your post and thought that I swear the center pin is for 20 meters when zeroed to 20. So I just tested it in range in PF... sorry but can't confirm your information. In my case the center pin (the yellow one) is for zeroed range. So when I zeroed at 20 I hit bull's eye on that range. Then I checked 40 meters... zeroed to 40, center pin, shoot... again hit bull's eye. That is my experience.

When you 1st aquire the Zeroing perk at 1/2, you unlock Short Range Perk. If you read the description, you unlock short range perk at 1/2 IN ADDITION TO THE MEDIUM RANGE PERK.

So .....

Medium Range perk is 40m for bows and 150m for rifles. On the 3 sight the middle pin is your passive zero which is 40m. You have 1/2 perks in Zero that means you unlocked short range which is top pin 20m

You still have to get 2/2 for long range zero which would be lower pin 60m

At 40m range it is close. So it does not matter whether you zero in on top or middle pin. At 65LB or more the drop in arrow is not even noticeable.

Stand further back and the test it out, because on my game the center pin is your standard zero. That is where your crosshair would be sitting in any FPS game. If you bring up your rifle centerd in 150m, put it away, bring up your bow centered in 40m, you would see that where you were aiming dead center with your Rifle, is where your middle pin would be. So 40m is your standard zero you unlock WITH your short range perk at 1/2

[Sparky862]

Originally posted by MetalMind85:

Originally posted by Sparky862:

Top Pin Close Range
Middle Pin Medium
Lower Pin Long Range

So, if you have 2/2 Zeroing Perk

Top Pin 20m
Middle Pin 40m
Lower Pin 60m

So that would mean that anything closer than 20m you use the top pin.

Anything else inbetween you compensate for it. So if the Animal is 15m, you should use the top pin but aim a bit lower where you want to hit.

If Animal is 50m, you use the middle and lower pin so that the Animal is inbetween the two pins where 50m would be give or take.

I just saw your post and thought that I swear the center pin is for 20 meters when zeroed to 20. So I just tested it in range in PF... sorry but can't confirm your information. In my case the center pin (the yellow one) is for zeroed range. So when I zeroed at 20 I hit bull's eye on that range. Then I checked 40 meters... zeroed to 40, center pin, shoot... again hit bull's eye. That is my experience.

Also the way you test is wrong.

If you zero your bow in for 20m and use the center pin which is ment for 40m ofcourse you will hit a bullseye because your bow is centerd to hit a target dead center at a range of 40m.

Meaning your arrow will hit dead center on anything within a 40m range where ever you are pointing at using the middle pin.

So standing 20m from a target using the middle pin which is ment for 40m target you will hit a bullseye

[Void Chosen]

Originally posted by MetalMind85:

Originally posted by Sparky862:

Top Pin Close Range
Middle Pin Medium
Lower Pin Long Range

So, if you have 2/2 Zeroing Perk

Top Pin 20m
Middle Pin 40m
Lower Pin 60m

So that would mean that anything closer than 20m you use the top pin.

Anything else inbetween you compensate for it. So if the Animal is 15m, you should use the top pin but aim a bit lower where you want to hit.

If Animal is 50m, you use the middle and lower pin so that the Animal is inbetween the two pins where 50m would be give or take.

I just saw your post and thought that I swear the center pin is for 20 meters when zeroed to 20. So I just tested it in range in PF... sorry but can't confirm your information. In my case the center pin (the yellow one) is for zeroed range. So when I zeroed at 20 I hit bull's eye on that range. Then I checked 40 meters... zeroed to 40, center pin, shoot... again hit bull's eye. That is my experience.

I just went to the shooting range at Hirschfelden and used the middle pin zeroed in to 60 meters using 60M targets. It hit bullseye when I aimed the middle pin slightly above the bulleye and the arrow it in dead in the center. I guess this confirms your theory.
I also tried the crowssbow and it's extremely accurate with the top dot.

[Sparky862]

Originally posted by Void Chosen:

Originally posted by MetalMind85:

I just saw your post and thought that I swear the center pin is for 20 meters when zeroed to 20. So I just tested it in range in PF... sorry but can't confirm your information. In my case the center pin (the yellow one) is for zeroed range. So when I zeroed at 20 I hit bull's eye on that range. Then I checked 40 meters... zeroed to 40, center pin, shoot... again hit bull's eye. That is my experience.

I just went to the shooting range at Hirschfelden and used the middle pin zeroed in to 60 meters using 60M targets. It hit bullseye when I aimed the middle pin slightly above the bulleye and the arrow it in dead in the center. I guess this confirms your theory.

You will hit the bullseye because middle pin is for 40m. You stood at a 60m range and aimed slightly higher to compinsate for the 20m drop which hit a bullseye.

[Void Chosen]

Originally posted by Sparky862:

Originally posted by Void Chosen:

I just went to the shooting range at Hirschfelden and used the middle pin zeroed in to 60 meters using 60M targets. It hit bullseye when I aimed the middle pin slightly above the bulleye and the arrow it in dead in the center. I guess this confirms your theory.

You will hit the bullseye because middle pin is for 40m. You stood at a 60m range and aimed slightly higher to compinsate for the 20m drop which hit a bullseye.

I guess and it was really slight so this proves how powerful the 70lb bow is. My guess is that the trajectory bends by 3 degrees at most for it to be this accurate.

[Sparky862]

The way you should test it is like this.

If top pin is ment for 20m, stand 20m fro target and use top pin. See where arrow lands.
Move back to 40m and use the 20m pin again and shoot. See where the arrow now lands. Now step back to 60m and use the top pin again and aim exactly where you did the previous 2 times. Now look where your arrow lands.

Now, do the same for center pin. Move 20m and use center pin to shoot. Move 40m use center pin again, then move 60m and use center pin again, each time just like before, shooting on the exact same location.

Do the same for the bottom pin.

After all that you will see how your pin affects distance