Do caller effects stack?

[Hanuman]

I'm on the hunt for Iberian Wolf in CC, so since both the jackrabbit and the destressed fawn caller have a certain +attraction, if I use both, do I have an even higher chance to attract them? When I hunt lesser kudu I always wonder if I really need to constantly use both callers (wheeze and the rattler).

[Striker]

No. They do not stack insofar as increasing the overall odds an animal will respond to a call. The attraction value of callers can be found in the items description in the store. So, as in the case of lesser Kudu, if both callers have an attraction value of x then using both will not increase the attraction value to 2x. Some animals like the sound of the rattle more than they do the wheeze and vice versa. I seldom use callers but when I do I go with one and if a second type of caller is available will use it in my third and final calling session. If an animal is going to respond I figure it will do so within 3 attempts (calling sessions) on my part. If it hasn't shown itself by then it's not going to and it's time to move on.

[Geronimo]

IMO we dont know the actual coding involved in either the item mechanics or the npc Ai, so I really boils down to individual experience.

And we cant even share this to come to any consensus because the codes are always changing.

Some players believe exactly what is written in descriptions by some dev who may not have had any connection at all to the actual development of the code.

Same with devs who make declarations in pr video streams that might be just answering on the fly.

[McSqurl Nugget]

Geronimo vs the dev's again lol :-)

from what i've seen in game the callers do not stack, nor do they have a negative affect. You can spam the call and it won't scare the animal away, or any other animals in the area. and spamming doesn't seem to do any better than a single call to bring them in.

[furious_corpse]

Although you can't stack callers for a particular species i've found that you can stack callers to bring in 2 different species. I successfully managed to call Roe Deer and Red Fox in together on Hirschfelden, Dropped both and completed two missions in a matter of seconds.

Of course it may just have been that the first animal reacted to the first call and the second animal reacted to the second call. It worked for me though.

[McSqurl Nugget]

Originally posted by furious_corpse:

Although you can't stack callers for a particular species i've found that you can stack callers to bring in 2 different species. I successfully managed to call Roe Deer and Red Fox in together on Hirschfelden, Dropped both and completed two missions in a matter of seconds.

Of course it may just have been that the first animal reacted to the first call and the second animal reacted to the second call. It worked for me though.

i've done that myself with fallow and roe deer, and blacktail and elk in LL. Use one call, then the next, repeat.

[JPSGT40]

You can definitely call in multiple species at the same time using different callers.
You can also use different scent lures at the same time to bring in different species at the same time.

[Geronimo]

There are many unanswered questions regarding luring in COTW.

And in many things the devs are known to prefer it this way.

This is no secret. And certainly not being anti-dev to be aware of it, or any other reality. This isnt about dev-bashing at all, it is about being realistic and not being naive.

If I were to post every question needing ro be asked regarding luring, nobody would read it all.

Some say once you call once anything you do after that cancels it.

So calling a red deer immediately after calling a row deer cancels the role call and only the red deer call is active.

This has not been my experience however.

In the same line of thinking they would suggest that also means that a second same species call is useless because it just cancels the first which would have kept actively luring for the time stated in the store listing.

This has also NOT been my experience.

But regardless of my opinion, nothing is known for sure except that changes are made with patches.


If you really want to learn anything helpful, observe reactions and results by experimenting in field and base your assumptions on what you are experiencing with regularity.

If that is dev-bashing, based on your definitions, then so be it.

[Hanuman]

Your red deer and roe deer example I also know to be false. I do this all the time, honking multiple callers hoping to get a bite, to then be given Sophie's Choice because I am staring at a beautiful melanistic roe deer on my left side or very nice gold potential, mission needed, fallow deer on my right...Happened to me today. Never saw a melanistic roe deer before...

I also agree with your second point, I have clearly noticed, watching through my binocs, that multiple calls seem to increase attraction of hesitant animals. When I crouch towards a killed harvest, I seem to have much higher chance of attracting fled animals back to the kill zone when using 2-3 calls per 90 second attraction interval instead of 1 call. I never use more than 2 or 3 though.

[Katatonik]

I actually experiment with it.
If you use caller multiple times, the alarmed state of the animal increase until they flee the scene.
Or maybe it just me.

[Katatonik]

Originally posted by OddOneOut:

I actually experiment with it.
If you use caller multiple times, the alarmed state of the animal increase until they flee the scene.
Or maybe it just me.

But if you just use it once and it calls an animal, they can get so close that you are the one that startled. Source: personal experience.

[McSqurl Nugget]

Originally posted by OddOneOut:

Originally posted by OddOneOut:

I actually experiment with it.
If you use caller multiple times, the alarmed state of the animal increase until they flee the scene.
Or maybe it just me.

But if you just use it once and it calls an animal, they can get so close that you are the one that startled. Source: personal experience.

my experience and testing just a bit ago during my lunch is the opposite. I used caller on a blacktail doe to eliminate the animal level factor. I hid in a tree with black visibility bar, scent eliminator and downwind from the doe. spammed the caller 6 times, waited for her to approach a bit, spammed 6 more calls maybe a minute later, she paused looked then kept advancing to me, repeated again, no change. got her 25m from me before she bolted, guessing from scent. i made no movement at all other than lifting the call.

found a 2nd doe, single calls, no difference from spamming calls. Tied it on moose also, spam called, then single call, then spam no change in their behavior.

Animal response to calls factors in their level, i'm wondering if your testing was on a trophy animal (where mine with the does was not) of an upper level?

[Geronimo]

Originally posted by Dream Master:

Your red deer and roe deer example I also know to be false. I do this all the time, honking multiple callers hoping to get a bite, to then be given Sophie's Choice because I am staring at a beautiful melanistic roe deer on my left side or very nice gold potential, mission needed, fallow deer on my right...Happened to me today. Never saw a melanistic roe deer before...

I also agree with your second point, I have clearly noticed, watching through my binocs, that multiple calls seem to increase attraction of hesitant animals. When I crouch towards a killed harvest, I seem to have much higher chance of attracting fled animals back to the kill zone when using 2-3 calls per 90 second attraction interval instead of 1 call. I never use more than 2 or 3 though.

You misread, in all examples above I was posing devils advocate. Speaking about what some people think, and I clearly stated that was NOT what I believed.

[Hanuman]

Originally posted by Geronimo:

Originally posted by Dream Master:

Your red deer and roe deer example I also know to be false. I do this all the time, honking multiple callers hoping to get a bite, to then be given Sophie's Choice because I am staring at a beautiful melanistic roe deer on my left side or very nice gold potential, mission needed, fallow deer on my right...Happened to me today. Never saw a melanistic roe deer before...

I also agree with your second point, I have clearly noticed, watching through my binocs, that multiple calls seem to increase attraction of hesitant animals. When I crouch towards a killed harvest, I seem to have much higher chance of attracting fled animals back to the kill zone when using 2-3 calls per 90 second attraction interval instead of 1 call. I never use more than 2 or 3 though.

You misread, in all examples above I was posing devils advocate. Speaking about what some people think, and I clearly stated that was NOT what I believed.

Yea I know, I am agreeing with your statements of them not being what we have both experienced.

[Katatonik]

Originally posted by McSqurl Nugget:

Originally posted by OddOneOut:

But if you just use it once and it calls an animal, they can get so close that you are the one that startled. Source: personal experience.

my experience and testing just a bit ago during my lunch is the opposite. I used caller on a blacktail doe to eliminate the animal level factor. I hid in a tree with black visibility bar, scent eliminator and downwind from the doe. spammed the caller 6 times, waited for her to approach a bit, spammed 6 more calls maybe a minute later, she paused looked then kept advancing to me, repeated again, no change. got her 25m from me before she bolted, guessing from scent. i made no movement at all other than lifting the call.

found a 2nd doe, single calls, no difference from spamming calls. Tied it on moose also, spam called, then single call, then spam no change in their behavior.

Animal response to calls factors in their level, i'm wondering if your testing was on a trophy animal (where mine with the does was not) of an upper level?

Ah,... it was a trophy animal.
I don't shoot on non trophy animal.
Unless I just want to increase my consecutive harvest and/or there is a herd of them and I just want to kill em all.

[Humpenstilzchen]

Originally posted by JPSGT40:

You can definitely call in multiple species at the same time using different callers.
You can also use different scent lures at the same time to bring in different species at the same time.

I second this, I also do this all the time.