2/2 Fatal Attraction

[Hanuman]

So I am 60 now and had a hard time deciding where to put my last skill point. I went with turning 1/2 Fatal Attraction to 2/2 (I felt the first point in Fatal Attraction was a no-brainer). According to the skill tree I should now see and increase in vocalization responses, in addition to an increase in animal attraction when using callers (the 1/2 skill).
I have played about 30 hours since I learned the 2/2 skill and tbh I see absolutely no noticeable change at all? Is this just me?

[Mr. Ed]

I don't know, I'll have to check it out when I realign my points.

[Hanuman]

I spend many of my Cotw hours in Medved doing night hunts (the nightvision binos and scope work very well in the snow covered taiga) and even though I don't have the "Who's deer?" skill I swear siberian musk deer respond to my antler rattler. There have been numerous occasions where I use the caller for a long while to attract reindeer and all I keep getting is small little musk deer. I read somewhere that they are very curious and that's why...but that is kind of saying they are attracted to the caller...

[eagle74]

I have had 2 points in this for a long time & cannot answer your question. Never tested it with & without. It would be good to know if it indeed works & if so, by how much.

[ÐåŕķMệşşịäħ]

The calls/lures/scents don't really work so don't waste your time with it. I've had them work but it's extremely rare and once you get hunting pressure (the purple area on the map) going they won't work at all. The animals avoid hunting pressure areas so they'll ignore your calls/lures/scents the entire time you're within a hunting pressure area. So it makes camping in a tree stand pointless. Also when they're at a need zone they'll ignore you as well. Basically this game forces you to be constantly moving around.

[McSqurl Nugget]

Originally posted by ÐåŕķMệşşịäħ:

The calls/lures/scents don't really work so don't waste your time with it. I've had them work but it's extremely rare and once you get hunting pressure (the purple area on the map) going they won't work at all. The animals avoid hunting pressure areas so they'll ignore your calls/lures/scents the entire time you're within a hunting pressure area. So it makes camping in a tree stand pointless. Also when they're at a need zone they'll ignore you as well. Basically this game forces you to be constantly moving around.

never had an issue with calls. One thing most people it seems forget are they're not a guarantee to bring in an animal, base call without perk/skill is 40% chance to attract the animal they're made for. I'm guessing it's 40 as it's 40 on the bar in the codex, and the bar is 1-100.

Also they changed the awareness a few patches back so they're more resistant to the calls/scent if they hear/smell/see you and are in an alert state. if that happens i've found sitting in place hidden with grey or better visibility bar and not moving for a few minutes gives the animals time to relax and you can call them then.

Also, it depends on the animal's level (not the animal class), the higher the level the more resistant they are to the calls/scents.

Speaking of the HP zones, you're describing how it should work, not how it does. Again it depends on the animal's level. lower level animals you can call in easily into a maxed out HP zone.

Stands/blinds/etc give you 1/3 HP zone eat shot vs not using one. So if you're crouched in a bush and shoot a deer, you get 1 HP lets say. If you're in tree stand, tripod, blind, etc. you have to kill 3 animals for 1 HP. That's why it takes 4 kills (one level of HP each) to wipe out a need zone, or 12 kills in a blind, etc.

[ÐåŕķMệşşịäħ]

Originally posted by McSqurl Nugget:

...Also they changed the awareness a few patches back so they're more resistant to the calls/scent if they hear/smell/see you and are in an alert state. if that happens i've found sitting in place hidden with grey or better visibility bar and not moving for a few minutes gives the animals time to relax and you can call them then...

Yeah I heard that from one of my friends that convinced me to buy this game. He literally said that update ruined this game and made those scents/lures/calls practically useless now. The chances of animals responding to your calls/scents/lures feel extremely low. I'd say it's lower than that 40% you said it was at. To me it felt more like a 5% chance or less. I even tested it out. I refunded all my skill points to invest in that ambusher pathway for all the ones that buff your scents, lures, calls, etc and it didn't make a noticeable difference. It felt useless. I even saw wolves close to a lookout tower that I was near so I used the predator calls next to it since it's buffed by it and the wolves straight up ignored me.

I just don't use them anymore it didn't feel worth it. The most success I had with calls/lures/scents was when when I was chilling in a tree stand in silver ridge peaks. I was using the calls/lures/scents and I was able to get elk and mountain lions to come to me. Sadly it took like 1 hour or more of chilling in that tree stand so it's not effective and once the hunting pressure started piling up on the map where I was the animals straight up ignored me. For how long it took to barely have like 3 animals show up wasn't worth it. I could have easily killed more animals just by walking around the map or using rifles. I even saw 2 giant herds of elk walk by and they all ignored me as well.

I personally think the hunting pressure mechanic needs to be removed. It's what ruins the decoys, scents, lures, calls, tripods, tree stands, or just you chilling in one nice spot for kills. The animals avoiding those hunting pressure zones makes everything I listed above useless. I understand if loud gun shots would do that but when you're only stealth hunting with a bow it doesn't make any sense at all.

I already stopped playing the game now because It felt like half the stuff in this game doesn't even work on top of how buggy it is. You make way too much noise, the animals stopped respawning in my files and also my friends files, some of the dlc I bought doesn't even work, unkillable animals that are bugged, animal pathfinding is garbage where they run into mountains/hills/trees and get stuck, and etc.

[Humpenstilzchen]

Originally posted by ÐåŕķMệşşịäħ:

I just don't use them anymore it didn't feel worth it.

They do work, but there are several instances when they don´t work like when animals are in a needzone, then they will ignore your calls or when they are on the way to a need zone they also seem to ignore your calls.

And the level plays a big role as well. High level animals are smarter and don´t fall for the callers most of the time.

But I agree with what you have stated. I also have these perks and it honestly doesn´t feel like it increases the effectiveness of the callers or causes animals to respond more.

[Hanuman]

I have excellent luck with callers in general. Especially the red deer caller, I often get an almost direct response. But as far as the 2nd point in caller skill, I don't see any difference.