Tips on using calls?

[jpinard]

I'm not sure I'm doing this right. I have the Deer Bleat caller, the Roe Caller, and the Buck Snort Wheeze. I cycle between them every 2 seconds. Is this kind of timing right? Should I be sticking with just one call?

Also - can these calls me used to draw in predators such as bears of coyotes?


Sorry for what might be a dumb set of questions.

[Hidden Gunman]

Each caller will list what animals it attracts. You use the appropriate caller for the animals in the map you are hunting on.

If you hear a Blacktail deer call (for instance), try going still in some cover (long grass works well) at a crouch, and use the deer bleat. Give a call every 45 -60 seconds or so. Keep waiting, and scan the surroundings...quite often you'll get deer coming in from other directions. Just keep calling occasionally and listening, if a deer comes and you don't see it, chances are you'll hear it. The footsteps for animals sound is a bit out of whack though, it seems to have no depth perception and it's hard to judge distance with it.

Note that animals don't come racing straight in. They move forward, stop and scan around, then move forward again. If they are alert or hesitant, they have a feeling that you are around. The idea is to tempt them in, make them curious...so a lot of bleating all at once is just going to sound weird to them. You need to sound natural, like a horny deer, basically, not a street vendor calling in rubes.

Big help is to go into the store's consumables menu and buy the scent masking spray. It lasts about 2 hours per spray, and is expensive to buy early on, but it's a real bonus for stalking and calling.

[jpinard]

Awesome thank you! So call every 2 seconds was WAYYY too much LOL.

[Striker]

Quick note: While the effectiveness of a caller is 90 seconds, it may take 6-12 min for a responding animal to appear. I have done fairly well with 2 bleats a 90 second pause then one bleat. Then I shut the heck up and wait 5 min. No response = time to move on.

[saphire jinn]

roe deer react to fast calls, so keep them spaced, whitetails and black tails dont seem to mind, for those i mix the deer bleat caller and the deer grunt, 8 of the grunt, 8 of the bleat then another 8 of the grunt, somewhat spaced, then wait, they always come in. red deer, one every five seconds, do it for 12 times minimum, they will come in, same for axis and blackbuck, those freaky dwarf deer in russia? screw em, they are like rats to me, i leave them alone, have one in one of my lodges just to scare the kids.

[saphire jinn]

Originally posted by Autobot:

Quick note: While the effectiveness of a caller is 90 seconds, it may take 6-12 min for a responding animal to appear. I have done fairly well with 2 bleats a 90 second pause then one bleat. Then I shut the heck up and wait 5 min. No response = time to move on.

And Autobot is right, you have to give them time, like lots of time to work their way towards you. He is correct when he states 6-12 minutes of waiting, but then you will hear them coming in, a half dozen doe in your face but that buck or bucks will be out there, in the treeline, being crafty, so wait for it. and once you do take that shot at that buck, dont move, go right back fast to your caller and repeat, that second buck that ran off will come back in, and all the does in your face, let them spook and run off, pay them no attention, when one deer spooks none of the others notice, they are not affected, so just be patient.
then go clean up the mess you just made. and remember, no one gets left behind, pick up all your kills.

[jpinard]

Originally posted by saphire jinn:

Originally posted by Autobot:

Quick note: While the effectiveness of a caller is 90 seconds, it may take 6-12 min for a responding animal to appear. I have done fairly well with 2 bleats a 90 second pause then one bleat. Then I shut the heck up and wait 5 min. No response = time to move on.

And Autobot is right, you have to give them time, like lots of time to work their way towards you. He is correct when he states 6-12 minutes of waiting, but then you will hear them coming in, a half dozen doe in your face but that buck or bucks will be out there, in the treeline, being crafty, so wait for it. and once you do take that shot at that buck, dont move, go right back fast to your caller and repeat, that second buck that ran off will come back in, and all the does in your face, let them spook and run off, pay them no attention, when one deer spooks none of the others notice, they are not affected, so just be patient.
then go clean up the mess you just made. and remember, no one gets left behind, pick up all your kills.

I get confused when I shoot more than one deer at a time as their blood trails can cross. Any tips for this? I spent an hour going in circles today form this very thing.

[Alter_Schwede_62]

Sometimes it is very hard to get the right traces, especially when there are many animals there resp. when the begin to run criss cross.
Yesterday I really had 5 Moose that I did not find.
Three of them only had felshwounds (very bad shots) and walked more than 600 meters.
Two of them had deadly shots and too walked many hundreds of meters.
All five were males (female I found all), and all traces suddenly stopped, resp. after many hundreds of meters they suddenly run back (into the opposite direction), and after few meters the traces vanished at 0-25 or 25-50%.
No traces, no moose, nothing...
Don't know, what happened yesterday to those moose males.
They all vanished after a long trail.

So, sometimes it is very strange, what shot/wounded animals are able to do, resp. what suddenly happens to their traces.

What too was very curious, were the screams of the moose during I followed them, they sounded horrible!
Is that a new feature? I never heard such awfull moose screams in this game! Those screams nearly freeze the blood in your veins!

[Hidden Gunman]

Best not to take down multiple animals without claiming them. One at a time, claiming at the time, and you avoid the most potential for losing them.

Blood trails do end, and the bleeding stops in some cases. You can tell the difference between the legitimate ones and the glitched ones because the glitch either doesn't leave a trail at all, or it's a decent quantity which suddenly ends too early. Again though, the best way to avoid it is to make your shot count, drop them first time, or hit them hard so they can't run far.

General rule of thumb: For deer, hit them low and down front...which gives heart/lung hits; for bear, front on to the chest midway between the shoulders and in line with them (heart) if it is standing, or if side on high up on his shoulders about 4 to 6 inches down from the point of the shoulders (double lung shot). Same applies for buffalo, although the .470 if you are close enough just about anywhere in the chest is good if you don't mind dancing around a bit if he takes some time to drop (you can jump out of the way, just have to time it right).

[Alter_Schwede_62]

No no, I am too talking of one after the other. And even in two different sessions on Layton.
One in the morning and one in the evening. Not one after the other.
I shot one, followed it about 15 to 30 Minutes, and then gave up.
Then I shot one, that I found.
Then I shot one, followed it about 20 Minutes, and then gave up.
Again one in the (TH) night, followed it, about 15 minutes, another trace crossed I followed it, and found the dead female I shot short before.
Then I wanted to go back, to the males trace, but did not find it in the dark any more.
Later this trace crossed my way with 0-25% and I did not find this, the last one of the day, and in the deep night, any more.
So disappointing hunt, concerning to moose on Sunday.
All female found, all male not. :(

[Alter_Schwede_62]

BTW. Yes I know, my fault is, that I sometimes shoot from to far away, instead of crouching up to the moose, and then shoot. This is much better, but my nerve conditions havent been the best late that day, because of all the moose events before...

[|TvM| kairo]

In my experience, with the grunt caller and bleat caller specifically, you can chain-call that thing nonstop. I've tested it on herds of deer, and they have no aversion to rapid and repeated calling.

[jpinard]

Originally posted by dc2dixon:

I think when the game came out you could scare the animals if used to much but now you can use it every 10 seconds and it wont scare them. I remember either Zaggi or Flinter confirmed this with TK (game dev) not so long ago. He said something like if used every 2 seconds or so it can happen but they changed it a while back. I do 2 call's together then wait 20-30 seconds before doing it again. I've also tested it myself and I don't scare the animals if I spam the caller. If anything the closer the call's the quicker the animals come as they don't stop and wait as much.

Awesome thanks!

[jpinard]

Is sound directional? ie. if I use deer horn thingie in one direction, it won't pull deer from behind me?

[Hidden Gunman]

Yes, it does.

[Chillum]

Originally posted by jpinard:

I get confused when I shoot more than one deer at a time as their blood trails can cross. Any tips for this? I spent an hour going in circles today form this very thing.

Use bows.

Arrows will stop a deer in its tracks felling it then and there more often than not. A plus is with the proper perks you can also pick your arrow back up.

Farming whole herds while retrieving arrows can make the game a bit cheesy though so do it at your own risk.