The Hunter: Call Of The Wild vs The Hunter Classic in 2020

[GrrumpyBearr]

Ok so I would like to know what people think of both theses games in terms of realism. I've done lots of research about animal behaviour, movement, where you would find them and there is still the issue of the hunter COTW having basically all animals near a water source a lot of the time. Not all but a lot. So which of these 2 games is more realistic in 2020. Don't think about the graphics or the bugs I just want to know about which game has more real to life features. Thanks in advance!!!

[Mr. Ed]

COTW, hands down and it would be very nice if folks would stop trying to turn it into Classic 2.0

[GrrumpyBearr]

What would you say makes COTW more realistic?

[Soulstain]

Hunter Classic is more sim and COTW is more sim-cade. It is more difficult to hunt animals in Classic. The animals in my opinion act in a more realistic manner. You are able to wear appropriate clothing for the environment. This is not just cosmetic. You actually need to wear warm clothing in cold climates and vice versa. I can pop on to COTW and kill a handful of animals in a short period of time so I find it more casual if I have a small amount of time to play. In Classic you will need much more time in my experience to harvest the same number of animals. Right now I find it far too easy to harvest animals in COTW. It is almost like shooting fish in a barrel once you learn the mechanics of the game.

Unfortunately for Classic it is much more expensive to play if you want to outfit yourself with all of the many items available. At least there is no membership anymore. The graphics are dated though and after playing COTW it really shows which hurts the immersion for me.

COTW hands down has the best atmosphere. I can truly feel like I'm in the game world as opposed to just playing a game. The game is so beautiful that I can enjoy it solely as a hiking simulator.

It really comes down to what you want. I believe the devs recently said that COTW will eventually have everything that Classic has. I'm not sure how long that will take to implement though. If the devs were to ask my opinion (which they aren't) I would have suggested they spend much more time on the realism of the animal behavior rather than the realism of their antlers. That's just my opinion though.

Cheers!

[GrrumpyBearr]

Thanks soulstain, I have played both games a lot and I am glad I'm not the only who feels let down on certain aspects of COTW. I'm hoping that as the game progresses through the years they begin to fine tune animals behaviours and such. Thanks for the input. Classic is fun but yes I quickly found that I need to grind like mad or still spend real money to get even for of the stuff they offer for sale. Also it is becoming hard to back to a game that has more dated graphics. I hope COTW eventually become the better of the two and maybe has two game mode options. A normal sim-cade and a realism mode with no tracks just what you can see around you to help! Thanks again though.

Cheers!

[DanthemanBoone]

Soulstain wrote.......
Unfortunately for Classic it is much more expensive to play if you want to outfit yourself with all of the many items available.

Unfortunately that is a misleading statement because all weapons and equipment in theHunter Classic can be bought with ingame money earned by doing missions and harvesting animals. But in COTW many weapons and equipment have to be bought and paid for with real money as part of DLC content or as specific DLC content. The truth is actually the opposite of what Soulstain has stated.

As far as which is more realistic they are both missing the mark to the same degree but in different areas in some cases and similar areas in others. In both games the bright tracking clues can be turned of. In both games most weapons are vastly innefective compare to real life results. Yet in both games arrows kill 99% of the time when an animal is hit in the foot or an ear. Choices of ammo is more limited in Classic than in Cotw. Dangerous animals attack more readily in COTW. Wolves attack in COTW but not in Classic Etc Etc.

The reality is that both are games with some aspects of real life hunting included. But trying to measure either against real life experience will only lead to dissapointment.
They are what they are.
If you cant accept them as games that are only based on some of the many aspects hunting, you will wind up being dissapointed.

[GrrumpyBearr]

Thanks DanthemanBoone, That was a very helpful answer. I completely agree that trying to compare will lead to disappointment. I just wants to know what the community felt about the two games. There are plenty of realistic aspects in both and honestly I enjoy both. Thanks for the input!

[Soulstain]

DanthemanBoone. Yes, you are correct you can get them with in-game money. How many can you get when you start playing? How many can you get after 50hrs? Nice try. I love Hunter Classic but the pricing has always been a bone of contention for many. You will have to grind for a very long time to get the items you want for free. I'm not saying you won't enjoy your time though.

[GrrumpyBearr]

Yes Soulstain I agree. Back in 2015 when I first picked up the hunter classic I found it annoying paying real money... You still have to that unless you grind "50 hrs". It is a big problem for the game because you don't earn enough $gm per animal kill, not even from larger or more rare game. For me the hunter COTW is more enjoyable in that respect because it doesn't take to long to get money. Maybe we will see change in the future as this feature has only been around for a year and they have a new developing team. Honestly though the Hunter Classic still offers a great experience!

[Soulstain]

Yes, I agree about the Classic experience. Unfortunately I started playing Classic at roughly the same time I started playing COTW so I didn't end up spending as much time with it even though I enjoyed the experience. The old membership program turned me off. Now, I would probably play it more but I wouldn't want to invest money in it seeing as development appears to have stopped and I can't devote the time to grind out the gear I want. Let's hope the new COTW map is going to be as amazing as it looks and hopefully less buggy than the last one...lol.

[GrrumpyBearr]

Hopefully the next COTW map is Good! I didn't realise Classic was not being developed. Because on its in-game page there last update was either a week or a month ago. I believe it is just a new team. But COTW is more of a more modern experience. Unfortunately I don't see classic lasting much longer :( unless they update the engine.

Cheers!

Edit: To be exact Classics last post was just yesterday announcing the snow goose competition. It is still under development!

[McSqurl Nugget]

Originally posted by GrrumpyBearr:

Hopefully the next COTW map is Good! I didn't realise Classic was not being developed. Because on its in-game page there last update was either a week or a month ago. I believe it is just a new team. But COTW is more of a more modern experience. Unfortunately I don't see classic lasting much longer :( unless they update the engine.

Cheers!

Edit: To be exact Classics last post was just yesterday announcing the snow goose competition. It is still under development!

yep 2 teams, one for classic one for cotw.

[Soulstain]

My understanding is that no new maps are being developed. I didn't mean they were abandoning it. Maybe someone else has more info. The fact that it was mentioned that COTW will eventually have all of the things Classic has would kind of make the work on two seem redundant.

[GrrumpyBearr]

Right I see what you mean. I just wish certain animal behaviour becomes more realistic on COTW

[DanthemanBoone]

Unfortunately there will never be an update of the classic engine to a new modern version. The question has been asked and the devs have answered more than once to the negative.
The problem is that it is not simply a cut and paste job of the content from one engine to another but rather a rewrite of all code and update of all models from older graphics files to more modern varieties used in modern engines. In fact it would require the same amount of work as a completely new game.

However, the second to last map they made, Timbergold Trails, is probably a good example of what they could acheive if they spent enough time. Visually it would be the best they ever did. Running it on the highest settings with the same computer that I use to play COTW on high settings certainly gives a better visual experience that more closely aproaches that of COTW.

I have a strong Love Hate relationship with both games. I play one until something gets right up my nose then switch back to the other for a few days until the same happens there then switch over again

Its unfortunate that currently there is nothing better than these two out there in the hunting Genre.

[GrrumpyBearr]

I wouldn't say it is "unfortunate" there are no better games but rather it is good. I like both and I personally play more of COTW now because they are constantly making it better. It is a shame they can't update the engine but it makes sense. I think COTW will get more and more realistic and they might one day make a separate "realism" mode. But IDK. The main problem is there are not enough people who want to play hunting games therefore to succeed quite like Classic did and COTW is doing is very difficult. Classic built up a community and then gave everyone a better looking game and the player count has more than doubled. I would like a super realistic hunting game, But at the same time it is unlikely and also not many people will play it. That's why COTW is so popular because it is easier and still gives a realistic feel. I think the only way to really experience hunting is to ACTUALLY do it!

Also Classic made money from players paying for basically everything.
COTW is the same but is doing through new DLC with several items in each package.
If this kind of marketing was not done then COTW would never have existed and Classic would have died years ago. It is the sad truth about these types of games.