How does the "accuracy" on weapons work?

[Lance Corrimal]

I mean, whis end is the "good" end, i.e. precision weapons? low, or high numbers?

[Your Internet Dad™]

I'm not really sure what your asking. Can you clarify a little?

[Lance Corrimal]

which weapon is more accurate, one with accuracy 10 or one with accuracy 100?

...specifically, the rangemaster versus the docent .223... when I look at these two, one of them is a sniper rifle and the other one has the ballistic profile of a tossed brick, and I'd like to know which is which.

[fluffy]

The question seems clear enough to me.. Higher accuracy means less wobble.

[Your Internet Dad™]

The higher the accuracy rating, the less weapon sway you get while scoped in. It's kind of a clunky way of indicating this, as it makes it seem like it's a measurement of how tight of a shot group the weapon will make.

That being said, within 150 yards all the rifles are very accurate, with minimal drop, and even more so with the Zeroing perk.

[Your Internet Dad™]

Ballistics are super wonky right now. I've done a lot of testing at the shooting range, and the lever action rifles are dead accurate to 150+ yards, when in reality they pound sand at that distance IRL.

[Lance Corrimal]

Hmm... I just went through a few tests on the shooting range too... 48 rings with 6 shots from the .357 on 50 meters, with the red raptor thingie... just like back in the army XD.

With the .2XX rifles I can pretty much hit what I aim for at up to 250m, any further than that and it turns into the national lottery.

[Lance Corrimal]

so you're saying that the rifles are sighted for 150 yards? seems to go with what I've experienced.

[Your Internet Dad™]

Originally posted by -=DSW=-Andromeda:

so you're saying that the rifles are sighted for 150 yards? seems to go with what I've experienced.

I'm not sure what they're sighted for in 'stock' mode, but if you get the zeroing perk 150 yards is the middle option, so it would be logical.

[PiXXeLz]

I read somewhere about 100m without the perk. But as mentioned before, they are that accurate you won´t see a difference in 100m or 150m. I shot with perk at 150m everything from 50m+ up to 250m. Just try it out at the shooting range.

[Ahroovi]

Originally posted by The Littlest Hummingbird:

Ballistics are super wonky right now. I've done a lot of testing at the shooting range, and the lever action rifles are dead accurate to 150+ yards, when in reality they pound sand at that distance IRL.

Lever actions, if you get a decent one, are very accurate irl. It's just you normally don't have a way to mount a scope onto it. It's the shooter not the gun tha's missing.

[jeff1963]

The whole rating system seems backwards, I have fired more than my share of Rifles and Pistols and in practice shooting a heavier weapon is more accurate than a lighter one. Weight induces less wobble not more.

[Ahroovi]

Originally posted by jeff1963:

The whole rating system seems backwards, I have fired more than my share of Rifles and Pistols and in practice shooting a heavier weapon is more accurate than a lighter one. Weight induces less wobble not more.

Heavier weight means more fatigue when holding it. It does make sense. Why I specifically rebuilt my AR to lose all the weight I had on it.

[Wolfsun]

Originally posted by Ahravi the waff:

Originally posted by The Littlest Hummingbird:

Ballistics are super wonky right now. I've done a lot of testing at the shooting range, and the lever action rifles are dead accurate to 150+ yards, when in reality they pound sand at that distance IRL.

Lever actions, if you get a decent one, are very accurate irl. It's just you normally don't have a way to mount a scope onto it. It's the shooter not the gun tha's missing.

Not really a gun guy are ya...
The pistol caliber lever guns even using ammunition handloaded with rifle level powder loads are pretty much useless past 150 yards or so. Doesn't mean you can't hit something out at 200 or 250 yards if you're an experienced shooter but in a hunting situation you just wouldn't do it. Much too risky a shot and too far to be what most would consider humane because bullet velocity and hence power has dropped way too much at those ranges.

Even a typical lever gun cartridge like a 30-30 has a bullet drop at 200 yards that your typical once a year hunter just can't deal with.

For example: a 30-30 (most common lever gun caliber used for hunting) 150gr round nose bullet with a muzzle velocity of 2390 FPS and zeroed at 100 yards has a total drop at 200 yards of 15" and at 250yds 25". Using a scope zeroed at 100 yards one would have to aim almost 7" high at 200 yards and 14" high at 250. And that doesn't take into account drift due to wind. Now imagine the drops from a pistol caliber lever gun and it's even harder to hit what you want to hit at 150+ yards.

Real hunters use Lever guns in brush country because they're perfect for a closed in crowded environment and have the juice to punch thru light cover and still take down the animal.

Lever guns just are not meant to be used much past 100 to 150 yards.

Caveat: new rubber point spitzer style bullets that can be loaded into tube magazines change the situation a bit but not much and I don't know anyone that uses them though they've been around for at least the last 8 years or so.

[GI Ged]

done some testing, here my findings
http://steamcommunity.com/app/518790/discussions/5/1368380934238616517/

[Ahroovi]

Originally posted by Werewolf13:

Originally posted by Ahravi the waff:

Lever actions, if you get a decent one, are very accurate irl. It's just you normally don't have a way to mount a scope onto it. It's the shooter not the gun tha's missing.

Not really a gun guy are ya...
The pistol caliber lever guns even using ammunition handloaded with rifle level powder loads are pretty much useless past 150 yards or so. Doesn't mean you can't hit something out at 200 or 250 yards if you're an experienced shooter but in a hunting situation you just wouldn't do it. Much too risky a shot and too far to be what most would consider humane because bullet velocity and hence power has dropped way too much at those ranges.

Even a typical lever gun cartridge like a 30-30 has a bullet drop at 200 yards that your typical once a year hunter just can't deal with.

For example: a 30-30 (most common lever gun caliber used for hunting) 150gr round nose bullet with a muzzle velocity of 2390 FPS and zeroed at 100 yards has a total drop at 200 yards of 15" and at 250yds 25". Using a scope zeroed at 100 yards one would have to aim almost 7" high at 200 yards and 14" high at 250. And that doesn't take into account drift due to wind. Now imagine the drops from a pistol caliber lever gun and it's even harder to hit what you want to hit at 150+ yards.

Real hunters use Lever guns in brush country because they're perfect for a closed in crowded environment and have the juice to punch thru light cover and still take down the animal.

Lever guns just are not meant to be used much past 100 to 150 yards.

Caveat: new rubber point spitzer style bullets that can be loaded into tube magazines change the situation a bit but not much and I don't know anyone that uses them though they've been around for at least the last 8 years or so.

I am a gun guy, and actually have 6 within reach right now. Lever actions are accurate, however small their range might be. Are handguns not accurate? Just because they aren't effective past 50 meters normally? No, they are accurate.