Real weapons used in game.

[Maikerus]

List of weapons which have been used to create in-game models. Constantly updated:

Handguns:
.22 Andersson - Ruger Mark II with fluted barrel, .22 LR

.410/45 Mangiaficio - Taurus Judge, .45 Colt/ 410 Gauge

.357 Focoso - Smith & Wesson Performance Center Model 629 Hunter, .357 Magnum (real caliber: only .44 Magnum or .44 S&W American)

.44 Panther Magnum - Ruger Super Redhawk, .44 Magnum

.454 Rhino - Taurus Raging Bull, .454 Casull


Handgun sights:
Red Raptor Reflex Sight - SIG Sauer Romeo 5

Goshawk Redeye 2-4x20 Handgun Scope - Leupold FX-II Pistol Scope (zoom range doesn't match)


Rifles:
.22 Virant - Marlin Model 795, .22 Long Rifle

Kullman .22 - Ruger 77/22, .22 Hornet

.223 Docent - Blaser R8 Success, .223 Remington

.45 Vasquez Cyclone - Hatsan Hercules, .45 Cal Pellets

.243 Ranger - Winchester Model 70 Ranger, .243 Winchester

Whitlock Model 86 - Henry Lever action .30-30 Brass with octagonal barrel variant, .30-30 Winchester

Solokhin MN 1890 - Mosin Model 1891/30, 7.62x54R

6.5mm Martensson - Bergara B-14 HMR, in-game performance compared to other available cartridges indicates rather some powerful version of 6.5mm like wby mag or remington magnum

.270 Huntsman - Weatherby Mark V, .270 Winchester (real caliber: .270 Weatherby Magnum)

F. L. Sporter - Lee-Enfield No. 4 Mk 2 sporterized, .303 British

.30-06 Eckers - Merkel R15, .30-06 Springfield

M1 Iwaniec - M1 Garand, .30-06 Springfield

.45-70 Coachmate Lever - Marlin Model 1895, .45-70 Government

7mm Regent Magnum - Blaser K95 Luxus or Baronesse Stutzen (octagonal barrel variant) / Merkel K3 Black Elite Stutzen, 7mm Remington Magnum

.300 Canning Magnum - Weatherby Mark V with fluted barrel and accubrake, .300 Winchester Magnum

.338 Rangemaster - RPA Rangemaster, .338 Winchester Magnum (real caliber: .338 Lapua Magnum)

.470 King DB - Krieghoff Classic "Big Five" Double Rifle, .470 Nitro Express

Hudzik .50 Caplock - (probably) Hawken Rifle with percussion lock, .50 cal round ball/Minié ball


Rifle sights:
Marksman Exakt Reflex Sight - Trijicon RMR

Ascent 1-4x24 - Trijicon Ascent 1-4x24mm

Galileo 4-8x32 Muzzleloader Scope - Wm. Malcolm 6X Long Rifle Telescope

Helios 4-8x32 Rifle Scope - (generic) Leupold VX-Freedom

Hyperion 4-8x42 Rifle Scope - ?

Argus 8-16x50 Rifle Scope - ?

GenZero 1-4x20 Night Vision Rifle Scope - ATN X-Sight II HD (various zoom ranges available)


Shotguns:
Strecker SXS 20G - Savage/A.H. Fox Model B, 20 Gauge (real caliber: 12 Gauge)

Nordin 20SA - Remington Versa Max Waterfowl Pro, 20 Gauge

Couso Model 1897 - Winchester Model 1897, 16 Gauge

Caversham Steward 12G - FedArm FTS Over & Under Shotgun, 12 Gauge

Cacciatore 12G - Mossberg 500, 12 Gauge

Miller Model 1891 - Winchester Model 1887/1901, 10 Gauge


Shotgun sights:
Meridian 1-4x20 Shotgun Scope - ?


Combination guns:
Grelck Drilling - JP Sauer and Sohn Model 3000, 9.3x74R/ 16 Gauge


Combination guns sights:
Falcon 3-9x44 - any Leupold VX-6HD series, (zoom range doesn't match)


(Cross)bows:
Crosspoint CB-165 - Tenpoint Titan series, 300, 420, 600 grain bolts


(Cross)bows sights:
Brightsight Rangefinder - Garmin Xero A1 Bow Sight


As You can see, some equipment is still missing, so list stays open and any suggestions/corrections are welcome :)

[Leadmagnet]

other than being a 12g, this looks pretty close
https://www.gunsamerica.com/928984492/fox-model-b-12-gauge-double-barrel-shotgun.htm

[Maikerus]

Първоначално публикувано от Leadmagnet:

other than being a 12g, this looks pretty close
https://www.gunsamerica.com/928984492/fox-model-b-12-gauge-double-barrel-shotgun.htm

Yup, this baby is certainly suitable. I wouldn't care about exact caliber, because e.g. real focoso .357 doesn't have this caliber at all.

So we have complete list of in game used firearms. Now some bow experts are needed :D

[Maikerus]

Update: Phew, after a little absence and with some corrections (docent and ranger changed for blaser and winchester) I finally managed to set all firearms with, I think, passable result.
I also started to simultaneously position scopes and bows, but it's quite hard job. Any help appreciated ;)

[VulDrog]

Thank you Maikerus and all who helping. It's very informative.

[Maikerus]

It's good to know that someone consider this list useful :P

[VulDrog]

I'm sure there are other gun enthusiasts like me out there but they may not have seen this list yet :) Weapons are huge part of why ı play this game. I play cod's bf's and alike for many years but never heard this much satisfaying gun shots any of them.

[gabcik&kubis]

Drilling - most likely older classic austrian or german drillings like the ones byt Krieghoff or Sauer&Sohn (or even Merkel). Maybe they were built on the same action.
Compared to Merkel 96K there is diffecert shape of the rear part of the action on the sides (line vs "3" shape). Also very prominent is selector for the rifle barrel on the left side.
Long years ago I had a chance to shoot drilling of this type.
One example:
J. P. Sauer and Sohn - example:
https://www.lauritz.com/en/auction/drilling-jp-sauer-and-sohn-model-3000-cal-12-70-7x57-sn/i5099006/

.243 Ranger - IMHO that is completely off. I think that I have seen rifle that looks similar to the one we have in the game but my memory cannot help now. Maybe it was even semiautomatic rifle. But Winchester 70? Show me one alike.

7 mm Magnum: Merkel K3 Black Elite Stutzen (or other models) seem to be closer fit.

Eckers - Mauser M94 ?? More modern rifle, not military oldtimer

[Cerb]

6.5mm Martensson is an seko 6.5x55 as in game its stated that its 6.5x55 common caliber for elk hunting in Sweden and Finland. most guns are baced on the swedish mauser. made by husqvarna

[Leadmagnet]

Първоначално публикувано от LOP_SpaceHerpe:

The shotguns are modeled after Remingtons SuperWuss line. Buckshot was the slayer of anything over 200lbs but no more! With SuperWuss technology the entire platform is functionally useless. Go wuss!

This thread is about what in game weapons are based on not in game ballistics. Please take your whine/complaint over to thoughts & suggestions.

[McSqurl Nugget]

Started looking at scopes, but they could fit any number of vendors. Leupold, Nikko Stirling, Sig, numerous ones i saw online could be them. Hyperion is just a basic scope with a lever action side mount.

[Silky]

We're missing the .308

[Maikerus]

Първоначално публикувано от gabcik&kubis:

Drilling - most likely older classic austrian or german drillings like the ones byt Krieghoff or Sauer&Sohn (or even Merkel). Maybe they were built on the same action.
Compared to Merkel 96K there is diffecert shape of the rear part of the action on the sides (line vs "3" shape). Also very prominent is selector for the rifle barrel on the left side.
Long years ago I had a chance to shoot drilling of this type.
One example:
J. P. Sauer and Sohn - example:
https://www.lauritz.com/en/auction/drilling-jp-sauer-and-sohn-model-3000-cal-12-70-7x57-sn/i5099006/

.243 Ranger - IMHO that is completely off. I think that I have seen rifle that looks similar to the one we have in the game but my memory cannot help now. Maybe it was even semiautomatic rifle. But Winchester 70? Show me one alike.

7 mm Magnum: Merkel K3 Black Elite Stutzen (or other models) seem to be closer fit.

Eckers - Mauser M94 ?? More modern rifle, not military oldtimer

As You probably noticed- In most cases overall look and smimilarity is not sufficent and beside that we have to look for characteristic feaures, like diagonally cut bolt in ecker's case that is flush with action's casing (that was one of the features why I have chosen modern Merkel R15, not mentioned Mauser M94. Even so it is very hard to find and be sure of real equivalents, because game just let's say... doesn't help. Some shapes are diffrent, some parts have different proportions or are completely missing etc. and one have to find best overall looking real-life option.

Talking about 7mm- I also considered Merkel K3 Black Elite Stutzen version but It was some time ago and now I can't tell You why I decided to select Blaser to be honest :D. I will add it as a variant.

When it comes to Ranger 243 - Well, I have to say that I followed same path as with Rangemaster 338. Searching for 338 I totally couldnt find anything similar with break action and such caliber, so having no other ideas I just wrote that name in google. Browser found this RPA rangemaster which is ofc not perfectly similar, but have some common points like forestock, muzzle break and... name :D (we can also assume caliber in certain sense - win mag vs lapua). Same scenario was with ranger 243. I found this Remington 70 Ranger and while forestock and for sure bolt are different, stock shape, especially near grip and that covered front sight are convincing.

Drilling changed for JP S&S, side switch was notable.

Any other solid candidate for both empty and already taken spot will be considered and discussed :)

Първоначално публикувано от Silky:

We're missing the .308

Because game is missing .308 :P

Първоначално публикувано от Cerb:

6.5mm Martensson is an seko 6.5x55 as in game its stated that its 6.5x55 common caliber for elk hunting in Sweden and Finland. most guns are baced on the swedish mauser. made by husqvarna

I was guided by in-game description which says that it's best seller because of 6,5mm ammunition popularity so I picked Creedmor, but it also says that it was made by swedish gunsmiths, so yeah, 6,5mm swedish an be more fitting here.Changed.

Edit: Now I'm bit confused, but after looking at in-game performance (.270 - 35 pen vs 6.5mm 40 pen), to save realism it should be some more powerful cartridge, like 6,5mm wby mag.

[[FtUC]Keirkof]

The Bearclaw and Razorback CB-60 riser and limbs look a lot like the Bear Archery Status EKO: https://beararchery.com/bows/status-eko-av09a400f7r. The name might be a hint too. Though the teardrop-shaped cams look more like bowtechs.

Koter CB-65: Bowtech Carbon Icon? https://bowtecharchery.com/bows/carbon-icon/

[gabcik&kubis]

Първоначално публикувано от Maikerus:

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Besides - there is always chance that designers merged some weapons together. To avoid some copyrights claims and so on. For that 7mm side profile is nearly perfect fit for K3 but both are looking alike, are based on the same action design (I wonder whether they use same parts or both made their own complete rifle)
If I ever again come across that .243-like piece, I'll give you a note. I hate that feeling "I have seen it but I do not remember where / what was it"

[Maikerus]

Първоначално публикувано от FtUCKeirkof:

The Bearclaw and Razorback CB-60 riser and limbs look a lot like the Bear Archery Status EKO: https://beararchery.com/bows/status-eko-av09a400f7r. The name might be a hint too. Though the teardrop-shaped cams look more like bowtechs.

Koter CB-65: Bowtech Carbon Icon? https://bowtecharchery.com/bows/carbon-icon/

I'm last one who would dare to take the judge's seat when talking about bows :D
Maybe someone else can verify this and possibly give propositions about remaining bows.


I'm very curious abut scope used on 30.30 and 45-70. For me it's just modern base model but with added special color to look like vintage. So in that way it's like looking for a needle in the haystack :D