270 on blacktails

[Swydo]

sholudnt that be ethical?

[Jimmy fellons lawyer]

in my personal opinion yes seeing they are about the same size as whitetail

[Swydo]

Originally posted by varmintman56:

in my personal opinion yes seeing they are about the same size as whitetail

yeah thats my thinking too

[Jimmy fellons lawyer]

Originally posted by Swydo:

Originally posted by varmintman56:

in my personal opinion yes seeing they are about the same size as whitetail

yeah thats my thinking too

thinking? who said anything about thinking i just bang my head into the keyboard

[Swydo]

Originally posted by varmintman56:

Originally posted by Swydo:

yeah thats my thinking too

thinking? who said anything about thinking i just bang my head into the keyboard

lmao

[El Turista]

.270 is a popular round among every deer hunter around the world and of any size of deers (including roe deer). In real life.

Maybe! Maybe that the integrity bonus present in game is a shortcut to walk around the fact that there is no real Trophy integrity calculated...

For me .270 is ethic on deers but on some things smaller like a red fox, a bunny... It's an overkill and may even fail (the whole bullet can trespass the body w/o touching a vital and, of course, w/o expanding.) There are some varmint grain bullets on market (IRL) but no in-game.

In some situations it's no only ethic but a must (like night hunting... You don't want to track an animal by night)

[Nade Magnet]

Yes,and a .270 round into the motor box on a deer drops it in short order...but for some mad reason they seem to be able to go hundreds of meters,and then the track just simply disappears...no blood trail,no prints...like an alien abduction.
Full circle spiral search always show nothing....so WTF!
To say it is rapidly putting me off this game is an understement....

[naspa]

Yes, disappearing animals -there seems some gateway to other dimension in sloping areas specially since Dev improved the elevation problem- is one of the reason I do not care so much about integrity but prefer quick drops.

[Hunter451]

I agree, I carry a 7mm and the 270 and can only shoot white tail if I want a bonus.

[Secret Squirrel]

Doing a little research, it does look like the general consensus withih the hunting communities is that a mule deer should be hunted with a .243 or a .257. The blacktail is a subspecies of the mule deer. It is not a variant of a whitetail species.

I carry a bow or cross bow in my loadout for the purpose of taking out things that come up as an opportunity. This is mainly due to two things: 1) an archery weapon is not as noisy, so it won't chase away everything in the area -- including whatever is the focus of the objective, and 2) because I can quickly change from 420gr to 300gr for female blacktails if I want the full integrity bonus.

That said, I've found that the 300gr does not often bring femail blacktails down quickly. Therefore, from a bonus perspective I'd have been better off using a 420gr and getting an instant drop, and a small deduction on the integrity.

If it were up to me, I'd make the 270 able to obtain the integrity bonus on a blacktail if either:

- the hit would have been just as vital if the shot had been taken with a .243,
- or the distance was long enough that using a .243 would have been unethical.

Bullets slow down at great distances, and a .243 becomes unethical at great distances.

[El Turista]

Originally posted by Secret Squirrel:

Doing a little research, it does look like the general consensus withih the hunting communities is that a mule deer should be hunted with a .243 or a .257. The blacktail is a subspecies of the mule deer. It is not a variant of a whitetail species.

I carry a bow or cross bow in my loadout for the purpose of taking out things that come up as an opportunity. This is mainly due to two things: 1) an archery weapon is not as noisy, so it won't chase away everything in the area -- including whatever is the focus of the objective, and 2) because I can quickly change from 420gr to 300gr for female blacktails if I want the full integrity bonus.

That said, I've found that the 300gr does not often bring femail blacktails down quickly. Therefore, from a bonus perspective I'd have been better off using a 420gr and getting an instant drop, and a small deduction on the integrity.

If it were up to me, I'd make the 270 able to obtain the integrity bonus on a blacktail if either:

- the hit would have been just as vital if the shot had been taken with a .243,
- or the distance was long enough that using a .243 would have been unethical.

Bullets slow down at great distances, and a .243 becomes unethical at great distances.

300gr arrows, by dessing, (thanks to the new model btw) are for rabbit and birds. The tangled, twisted wire instead of a proper arrow Head is intended to have a "bigger" strike area and hinder de movement and possibility of the small animal to get in bushes or holes.

Those aren't for deers.

Edit: sorry, now I realized that you talking about 300gr bolts, not arrow.

[Secret Squirrel]

No problem, I mad ethe same mistake. I started with teh crossbow and then moved to the compound bow and thought 300gr needed to be used on blacktail females. :)