If I use .270 on Elk vs. Moose vs. Bear - which ammo should I be utilizing?

[jpinard]

I still haven't figured out when to use higher penetration ammo vs. higher expansion ammo. Can anyone clue me in here?

Thanks for all the help!

[MrWitz]

Good luck using the 270 on those, especially moose. You'll get a "vital hit" and still track it for a mile. I've had a vital hit end up drying up completely on a moose.

[Woodyplank]

Forget expansion ammo and go with poly when using the .243 or the .270 cal rifles on medium sized game. I wouldn't recommend using it on larger game like Elk, Moose or Bear unless it is your intent to gain hours upon hours of tracking experience.

Don't get me wrong...I've killed many an Elk, Moose and Bear with those weapons. I also spent many hours following blood trails (3.2 km was the longest trail) that I wouldn't have had to do if I'd waited until I had the right class of weapon for use on those species.

Your choice though. If you intend to shoot a moose with the .270 go for the brain (impossible by shooting it in the forehead by the way, you have to go through the back of the head).

[saphire jinn]

you might get away using it on an elk if you do a heart shot, but a moose will just laugh it off and a bear will eventually die but he will take you for a stroll. and use the poly tip, with a low powered weapon, you need as much penetration as you can get.

[naspa]

In normal world softpoint (or hard cast, if it would be available). In this game polymere, which is actually like hollow point, good fragmentation so high expansion. Which actually would make more sense with smaller animals, but well, who cares, it is a messed up game anyway and nobody gives a damn about fixing the bugs.

[jpinard]

@Mystery @saphire jinn @naspa

Originally posted by (+CG+) BigZ:

Good luck using the 270 on those, especially moose. You'll get a "vital hit" and still track it for a mile. I've had a vital hit end up drying up completely on a moose.

What gun should I be using at this stage for those 3 animals then (and which ammo too)? I'm level 15.

[Woodyplank]

Moose and Elk = .338 Black Bear = 7mm and use poly rounds. Using the .270 on Fallow deer will result in you losing 100% of the integrity bonus, the same as if you used the .270 on a black tail deer.

If you have wpn pk 2 grab the MK7.62mm rifle (it comes free with the DLC) and you can use it on both black tail and whitetail deer so you only need to carry one gun instead of 2. There's only one type of ammo for it but it is wickedly effective.

[jpinard]

Originally posted by Mystery:

Moose and Elk = .338 Black Bear = 7mm and use poly rounds. Using the .270 on Fallow deer will result in you losing 100% of the integrity bonus, the same as if you used the .270 on a black tail deer.

If you have wpn pk 2 grab the MK7.62mm rifle (it comes free with the DLC) and you can use it on both black tail and whitetail deer so you only need to carry one gun instead of 2. There's only one type of ammo for it but it is wickedly effective.

I've got a long way to go before I can unlock the .338

Were you saying the MK7.62 is good for Moose, Elk, and Bear, or just Bear? I'm confused with the second paragraph as I never used different guns for Blacktail and Whitetail deer if that's what you're saying.

I do have the MN1890 and the Grelck Drilling Rifle/shotgun combo thing. Would one of those be proper for both Elk and Moose?

[Hidden Gunman]

The Mosin Nagant is good on those, but your shot placement has to be good, and of course you have to have the DLC for it. Otherwise, the .45-70, up close is workable, but shot placement is again a consideration.

[ColdConduct]

Originally posted by jpinard:

Originally posted by Mystery:

Moose and Elk = .338 Black Bear = 7mm and use poly rounds. Using the .270 on Fallow deer will result in you losing 100% of the integrity bonus, the same as if you used the .270 on a black tail deer.

If you have wpn pk 2 grab the MK7.62mm rifle (it comes free with the DLC) and you can use it on both black tail and whitetail deer so you only need to carry one gun instead of 2. There's only one type of ammo for it but it is wickedly effective.

I've got a long way to go before I can unlock the .338

Were you saying the MK7.62 is good for Moose, Elk, and Bear, or just Bear? I'm confused with the second paragraph as I never used different guns for Blacktail and Whitetail deer if that's what you're saying.

I do have the MN1890 and the Grelck Drilling Rifle/shotgun combo thing. Would one of those be proper for both Elk and Moose?

Yep, use the Drilling Rifle. It's essentially the same as a 7mm - which is one step down from the recommended .338 for those animals. Using the crossbow or a combound with the big boy 600gr bolts/arrows will make quick work of any large game as well. Personally I wouldn't recommend the Mosin for Elk/Moose because it doesn't have as much penetration as the .270, .45-70, or 9.3. Frontal heart shots from less than 100m will be your best bet in my opinion.

[MrWitz]

Originally posted by jpinard:

@Mystery @saphire jinn @naspa

Originally posted by (+CG+) BigZ:

Good luck using the 270 on those, especially moose. You'll get a "vital hit" and still track it for a mile. I've had a vital hit end up drying up completely on a moose.

What gun should I be using at this stage for those 3 animals then (and which ammo too)? I'm level 15.

Drilling rifle or 7mm, they're both essentially the same thing, and they both work great on all 3 species you mentioned.

[TinManNFO]

One recommendation, if deviating slightly from the topic, is that if you are trying to level up in order to get some of the better items (like the elk caller) you may want to try hunting with the bow. If you wait for a side aspect shot (for lungs), the free DLC CB-60 using 420 grain arrows will drop most class 2 animals where they stand, and I'm pretty sure I've gotten 100% quick kills almost all the time using the 600 grain arrows on class 3s. Just have to be able to call them in close enough or sneak into optimal range, and practice at the weapon range a bunch to get a sense of the ballistic drop (multi-pin sights help).

[pinwolf]

You can shoot bear with .270 without the need for long tracking. All it needs is a shoot in the lung and a fast second follow-up shot in the intestines. He will run about 50m. I've done it just yesterday with poly ammo.

[Vampire]

.270 works fine for a Bear - Just wait for it to stand up and pop a shot straight-on central between his shoulders. Heart shot dead on the spot....or just call it to you and put one right through his forehead as he approaches.

Either ammo works fine for those shots, but i personally use the high-pen.

[saphire jinn]

yeah bears go down easily, might be why i have so many in my lodge.
you hit one with a low caliber weapon, he or she, will go down eventually, and you will track him but give him space, might be best to just sit and have a smoke and wait for the purple splotch to appear on the map then go do clean up, but yeah bear go down ok, russian bears, not so much, those you want to use the right caliber and drop them fast and hard, you hit one of those with a .270, you best turn and run for your life, and i bet 90% of the time, you aint running fast enough.
always use the right tool for the job.

[RadarLuv]

The MK7.62 will kill Black/Brown Bear with 1 shot to the heart or skull. For Red Deer/ Elk/Moose 7mm minimum. If you go to your Codex in the map menu and go to I think Animals, it tells you in there what Class Weapon to use for Integrity on that animal.