Are grizzly regions too restricted?

[☠djb204☠]

I’d love to hunt grizzly on the CRIMSON PLAIN. The red terrain is so iconic to the region, and I’ve watched numerous real life hunting videos where grizzly are hunted in that type of setting. I haven’t encountered any grizzly in this area in-game though unfortunately. Has anyone?

[Alter_Schwede_62]

No, and you won't get them to this or another aera(s).
All animals in CotW have their aeras, where they are living, and they do it only there.

The only animals I got worked, to let them go to another territory (as their own) are the wolves.
Why?
Because I forced some of the packs to go out of the burned forrest, and go down to Brightwater flats by massive hunting preassure. I really hunted them down to the flats. I always followed them after shooting some of them. They hadn't have time to breathe.

And so, after I did that some times, at the beginning of my next hunting session the wolves were walking through Brightwater Flats. I thought, that I wouldn't see properly! The wolves in Brightwater! Boing! (:-o

[TamponTimmy]

I'm still wrapping my head around why the .300 canning holds integrity on grizzly bears but not on black bears.

I think the whole integrity thing needs to be a little more cut and dry. If a weapon is lvl 3 it should be lvl 3. Not work on some lvl 3 animals and not others. Its too much to remember every species with every gun. If you need more levels for more nuance, make more lvls ... but I want to be able to check the codex and see if the gun I'm holding can ping the animal I'm looking at or not. Not have to make a mental note as to whether a .270 works on a white tail but not a black tail despite both being lvl 2 animals.

[Bowfin]

Originally posted by TamponTimmy:

I'm still wrapping my head around why the .300 canning holds integrity on grizzly bears but not on black bears.

I think the whole integrity thing needs to be a little more cut and dry. If a weapon is lvl 3 it should be lvl 3. Not work on some lvl 3 animals and not others. Its too much to remember every species with every gun. If you need more levels for more nuance, make more lvls ... but I want to be able to check the codex and see if the gun I'm holding can ping the animal I'm looking at or not. Not have to make a mental note as to whether a .270 works on a white tail but not a black tail despite both being lvl 2 animals.

There is about a hundred and fifty pound difference between those two bears ,that would be my guess as to why you can't use the same rifle. I've had difficulties as well trying to understand which weapon to use and sometimes a higher weapon will hold integrity. The scoring system is going to have some changes with the mega patch coming ,hopefully some changes to understanding which weapon to use as well.

[❄️The Last Frontier 😊]

Originally posted by TamponTimmy:

I'm still wrapping my head around why the .300 canning holds integrity on grizzly bears but not on black bears.

I think the whole integrity thing needs to be a little more cut and dry. If a weapon is lvl 3 it should be lvl 3. Not work on some lvl 3 animals and not others. Its too much to remember every species with every gun. If you need more levels for more nuance, make more lvls ... but I want to be able to check the codex and see if the gun I'm holding can ping the animal I'm looking at or not. Not have to make a mental note as to whether a .270 works on a white tail but not a black tail despite both being lvl 2 animals.

Yeah brown bear are bigger then blacks with the Grizzly and Kodiak leading the way!

[-AD-Deadric]

Originally posted by TamponTimmy:

I'm still wrapping my head around why the .300 canning holds integrity on grizzly bears but not on black bears.

I think the whole integrity thing needs to be a little more cut and dry. If a weapon is lvl 3 it should be lvl 3. Not work on some lvl 3 animals and not others. Its too much to remember every species with every gun. If you need more levels for more nuance, make more lvls ... but I want to be able to check the codex and see if the gun I'm holding can ping the animal I'm looking at or not. Not have to make a mental note as to whether a .270 works on a white tail but not a black tail despite both being lvl 2 animals.

I honestly just stopped worrying about integrity in this game and just use whatever I want. The .270 and 30.06 should both probably have 100% integrity in this game for anything that falls between the coyote and the bison. IMO the whole system needs redone but I doubt it'll happen.

[cbrrrman]

Originally posted by -AD-Deadric:

Originally posted by TamponTimmy:

I'm still wrapping my head around why the .300 canning holds integrity on grizzly bears but not on black bears.

I think the whole integrity thing needs to be a little more cut and dry. If a weapon is lvl 3 it should be lvl 3. Not work on some lvl 3 animals and not others. Its too much to remember every species with every gun. If you need more levels for more nuance, make more lvls ... but I want to be able to check the codex and see if the gun I'm holding can ping the animal I'm looking at or not. Not have to make a mental note as to whether a .270 works on a white tail but not a black tail despite both being lvl 2 animals.

I honestly just stopped worrying about integrity in this game and just use whatever I want. The .270 and 30.06 should both probably have 100% integrity in this game for anything that falls between the coyote and the bison. IMO the whole system needs redone but I doubt it'll happen.

^ at least the .243... but even it don't net integrity on all.

I'm like you... I use what rifle and ammo I want.
But that will deny me some diamond harvest no doubt.

But at Max Lvl.60 I really don't care.

----------------------- OP

I've harvested grizzly in other locations of the Yukon map.
North, South, East... but not in the West... that's designated for wolves generally.

Animals in RL live in certain regions... to hunt them... one needs to go there. ; )

[BlueHell]

ok

[McSqurl Nugget]

Originally posted by ❄️The Last Frontier 😊:

Yeah brown bear are bigger then blacks with the Grizzly and Kodiak leading the way!

For those interested -

Wild bears ranked by size -

12 - Sun Bear - native to southeast Asia, the smallest of the bears, topping the scales at about 175 lb and stands about 5 ft tall.

11 - Panda - native to southcentral China, they top the scales at roughly 250 lb and stand about 6 ft tall

10 - Sloth Bear - Relative to the Brown bear, native to India, this bear tops the scales at about 290 lb and stands about 6 ft tall

9 - Asian Black Bear - Also called a Moon Bear, this bear tops the scales at about 300 lb and stands roughly 6 ft tall

8 - Spectacled Bear - named after the rings around it's eyes, this bear is the only bear native to South America. This bear weighs about 340 lbs and stands roughly 6 ft tall

7 - American Black Bear - The smallest of the north american bears, this bear weight varies by location, age, and diet, and can weigh between 200 and 500 lbs. and stands about 6.5 ft tall

6 - Eurasian Brown Bear - Native to the mountains of northern Europe, Romans used to watch these bears fight in the arena. they weigh in between 300 and 550 lbs and stand about 7.5 feet tall

5 - Grizzly Bear - Also called the Brown Bear, or North American Brown Bear (they're the same species) the Grizzley's latin name means Terrifying Bear (Ursus horriblis). Grizzlies can weigh in up to 800 lbs and stand close to 7ft tall.

4 - Ussuri Brown Bear - Also called a Black Grizzly, they're native to Russia and Northeast Asia. Siberian Tigers are known to feast on Ussuri Brown Bears (I want tigers in MedVed!) These bears can top the scales at just over 1200 lbs

3 - Kamchatka Brown Bear - This is the largest of the Eurasian bears, native to Kamchatka region of Russia, reaching as far as St. Lawrence Island, Alaska on the Bering Sea. It stands about 9 ft tall and tops the scales at 1500 lbs.

2 - Kodiak Bear - The worlds largest brown bear. You can see an adult male Kodiak bear at the Bear and Wolf center in Yellowstone National Park, if you can't get to their native home in the Kodiak Islands of Alaska. These bears average 1500 lbs, and they stand just over 10 ft tall.

1 - Polar Bear - Depending on where you read, the Kodiak and Polar bear trade places as the worlds largest bears. However, Polar Bears are bigger. The largest wild Kodiak Bear on record weighed in at 1656 lb, his hind paw was 18 inches from toe to heel. The largest Polar Bear on record was 2209 lbs, and stood 11 ft tall.

For the OP, yes, the grizzly range is too restricted, so is the wolf range. Grizzlies home range can be as large as 1500 square miles. Wolves range is typically about 50 square miles but in hard times when food is scarce they can range up to 1000 square miles.

[pog]

Originally posted by TamponTimmy:

I'm still wrapping my head around why the .300 canning holds integrity on grizzly bears but not on black bears.

I think the whole integrity thing needs to be a little more cut and dry. If a weapon is lvl 3 it should be lvl 3. Not work on some lvl 3 animals and not others. Its too much to remember every species with every gun. If you need more levels for more nuance, make more lvls ... but I want to be able to check the codex and see if the gun I'm holding can ping the animal I'm looking at or not. Not have to make a mental note as to whether a .270 works on a white tail but not a black tail despite both being lvl 2 animals.

Black bear is class 2, Grizzly is 3 to 4. the .300 canning is a class 4. Why would you assume it would give integ on a class 2 animal?

[☠djb204☠]

Maybe when I wrote “restricted” it was the wrong word to use. I agree that the grizzly on the Yukon do have a very large area of the map to roam. What I should have wrote (and what would have made more sense) was that the region they DO occupy in-game doesn’t vary too much in terrain.

- Near The Water.
- In The Forest.
- Up The Mountain Sides.

... and that is great, but...

There is so much amazing terrain on this map like the Crimson Plain and the burnt forest area. It just kinda sucks (a little bit) that all other species on this map can be hunted within every type of terrain setting, but the grizzly bears are restricted to their South & East sections of the map, which unfortunately doesn’t vary all that much in types of terrain.

The South & East sections of the map doesn’t have the same uniqueness that the other sections of Yukon Valley does.

I hope this clarifies what I actually meant when I said they grizzly were restricted.

[Alter_Schwede_62]

Originally posted by McSqurl Nugget:

For the OP, yes, the grizzly range is too restricted, so is the wolf range. Grizzlies home range can be as large as 1500 square miles. Wolves range is typically about 50 square miles but in hard times when food is scarce they can range up to 1000 square miles.

And you consider, that a reserve is 16x16km large?
If yes, how would you realize 50 resp. 1000 squaremiles of one animal population into 256 square kilometers?
Do you think, that the makers of CotW are stupid or why did you write this?

[Alter_Schwede_62]

Originally posted by dc2dixon:

I don't find the area small or restrictive at all tbh. They are the whole south and east side of the map along the water and in the forest so a good 25/30% of the reserve has grizzly. I suppose having animals in other areas would be good but I never found a lack of grizzly so never thought about it. I guess they try to make regions that you wont see a species on every map.

For me as it is, it is good too.

You always can go special hunting.
If I want to go grizzly hunting, I know where to go, if Wanna go Wolve hunting, I know, where to tind them, if I wanna go Moose hunting, I know where to find them... and of course some few other animals. But as it is, and too is on all other maps, it is good, and you always know, where to find which animals at what time.

[PiXXeLz]

Well, the Polar Bear wouldn´t be the biggest one in future, as there are more incoming sights of a mixed bear between Polar and North American Brown Bear. This one is bigger than both.
(Like the Tiger-Lion which was, if i remember right nearly 40% bigger than their parents.)

I havn´t seen a single Grizzly so far....seems that they are very rare on the map for me.

[Alter_Schwede_62]

Here (green) you will find Grizzlys in the morning:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Xe7YOeUug2B00JBapNXlSCz5jztttI6z/view?usp=sharing
Good luck!

[PiXXeLz]

Originally posted by Alter_Schwede_62:

Here (green) you will find Grizzlys in the morning:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Xe7YOeUug2B00JBapNXlSCz5jztttI6z/view?usp=sharing
Good luck!

Thx...i will check out that area. ;)