Why people only swear by polymer tip ?

[Plom]

If you aim the heart, brain, spinal cord, then yes the polymer is better...
But if the target is moving at +200 meters, it's too hard to aim (with a .300 and the farthest lense)

Today, I decided to give a try with soft point. I read somewhere that soft point make the animal bleed a lot, and we have to aim the belly. So I aimed at the lungs : https://imgur.com/PN7AZtn https://imgur.com/JF4AiAU

The lungs are bigger than the 3 others organs, so it's easier to aim. Afterward the animal walk a little (like 5~10 meters), but still drop quick enough to get all the bonuses.

If this bullet is so much efficient (and also cheaper), why people only swear by polymer tip ?

[cbrrrman]

At close range it probably makes little difference.
But longer distance shot finds the polymer ammo penetrating deeper.

Don't shoot long distance ? Do what makes you happier.
It's just a game BTW

Those that have reached Lvl.60 prefer using polymer ammo.
Quite frankly because they can afford to do so... as game coin is of no issue.

[naspa]

In the normal world polymer is fragmentation with a bit better penetration. You would use it instead of hollow point with smaller game, intermediate would be softpoint and if you need really to go through things to get to the vital organs, you would chose for full metal hard cast..

Is this game more expensive is just better.

[dogshocker]

I'm using the Huntsman .270, which I really like for deer and black bear. I downed quite a few with soft tips before qualifying to purchase poly tipped ammo. I found that I had a lot of following up to find dead prey with the soft tips but as soon as I used the poly tipped ammo, I was getting double lung, drop-dead-on-the-spot kills...especially at a longer range. Lung shot is always good to go for...huge target comparatively, but the poly tip makes sure of the penetration, for sure.

I also got my first diamond yesterday on poly tipped ammo.

[LordBamburgh]

You need the penetration of polymer if your shot clips a bone, for example. And why shoot at a running target more than 200m away? There's really little need to do so imho

[dani.gruen]

the problem with the soft point is
that big animals like Bison and Buffalos has such a thick skin that the soft point ammo is not able to penetrate thru both lungs at long range shots

look at this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQqi1HCHBVY&list=PL72UVXwk_oa2H6s7V5tM_K6_XUhShWQDy&index=4&t=0s

you can see
a ammo with higher penetration is better for bigger animals because it gets deeper into the body and causes big internal bleeding
a ammo with high expandation is better for smal animals because is don´t penetraid that deep but hits the animal with a bigger shock.

i hope it seems logical

[Striker]

Harvesting animals quickly and humanely is a big part ot this game. For Cl III and IV animals I prefer to use poly tipped bullets for the added penetration they give. Spine shots on these classes of animals are no longer instant kills. Brain shots and heart shots are instant kills and soft point bullets have, at times, failed to penetrate deeply enough to reach the heart or flatten out against the skull of these larger animals. Soft point bullets have their use but I only use them on a regular basis for CL I and II sized animals at distances of 150m or less. It's not enough to simply kill an animal in this game. It has to die in less than 8 seconds if you hope to achieve the full 166pt quick kill bonus. An animal struck in one lung MAY die in less than 8 seconds, an animal struck in both lungs has a much higher chance of doing so. Losing only 2 % of the QK bonus could turn what otherwise might be a diamond into a gold level one.

[Plom]

Originally posted by Vince:

You need the penetration of polymer if your shot clips a bone, for example. And why shoot at a running target more than 200m away? There's really little need to do so imho

In Vurhonga Savanna it's extremly useful because there's less flora and the land is relatively flat, we can see farther and we have the means to shoot farther, so why not ?

[Plom]

Originally posted by dani.gruen:

the problem with the soft point is
that big animals like Bison and Buffalos has such a thick skin that the soft point ammo is not able to penetrate thru both lungs at long range shots

look at this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQqi1HCHBVY&list=PL72UVXwk_oa2H6s7V5tM_K6_XUhShWQDy&index=4&t=0s

you can see
a ammo with higher penetration is better for bigger animals because it gets deeper into the body and causes big internal bleeding
a ammo with high expandation is better for smal animals because is don´t penetraid that deep but hits the animal with a bigger shock.

i hope it seems logical

It would help a lot if we could have a similar "balistic soap" in this video-game as well... Thanks for the video, now I understand why penetration is better for larges animals. I hope COTW is as much close to reality as this video.

[NuCkEnFuTs]

shot a bison with the polymer,then shot one with the soft point. You see the difference quickly.

[lilblue0505]

It definitely depends if you are a long-range hunter or close range. I shoot mostly close range less than 100 yards so I never use poly. A good portion of my soft point hits both lungs because I am so close and aim right behind the shoulder. Even if it does hit one lung, I always get the quick kill bonus due to the heavy bleed out rate from the expansion rating. If you are shooting long-range, then poly is better for you.

[Guts]

Originally posted by Plom:

we can see farther and we have the means to shoot farther, so why not ?

Because if you can see the animal that far off, you can call it in, sit on a stand, and get the whole herd over to you to pick out the best trophy. Plus if the whole herd is within 50m of you, it's easier to get multiple shots off and bag more animals.

Either way penetration is more important than expansion. Sure, expansion does more damage technically, but only if it hits vitals. I've had whiletail deer not go down vs soft point ammo because my bullet didn't reach their heart or lungs from the front. Then the same shot with polymer tip will take out the heart and both lungs.

[Plom]

Originally posted by N473:

Originally posted by Plom:

we can see farther and we have the means to shoot farther, so why not ?

Because if you can see the animal that far off, you can call it in, sit on a stand, and get the whole herd over to you to pick out the best trophy. Plus if the whole herd is within 50m of you, it's easier to get multiple shots off and bag more animals.

Either way penetration is more important than expansion. Sure, expansion does more damage technically, but only if it hits vitals. I've had whiletail deer not go down vs soft point ammo because my bullet didn't reach their heart or lungs from the front. Then the same shot with polymer tip will take out the heart and both lungs.

Most of the callers have a range of 200 meters, I shoot farther than that as you can see in the screenshots. I try to call the animal only when it's hidden behind a hill or flora. It's easier to hit the lungs if the animal is from the side doing his business, rather than when it's coming toward me.

Originally posted by lilblue0505:

It definitely depends if you are a long-range hunter or close range. I shoot mostly close range less than 100 yards so I never use poly. A good portion of my soft point hits both lungs because I am so close and aim right behind the shoulder. Even if it does hit one lung, I always get the quick kill bonus due to the heavy bleed out rate from the expansion rating. If you are shooting long-range, then poly is better for you.

So poly is better for big games and also at long range, I understand now why everyone prefer to use it.

[Guts]

Hey man, you do you. If you like the super long range shots, go for it. I prefer to get within calling range, set up a stand, and try to pick out the best trophy from the group. If you see 1 deer, there's probably at least 5 more hiding. And the ones that hide the most are usually the highest level trophies.

[sakhlas]

soft point depend the animal in the game. with 7mm soft point. You easly shoot down, caribo,reindeer, black bear, wildebeest, reddeer,puma,mule deer . as a little categorie 3 animal. for 300 or 338 soft point it's elk, gemsbok, grizlly, ect. just shot perpendicular to the lung at any distance they are down with 100 %. I use soft point when i really want make money or for fun. (forgot for 30-30 and 45/70 just buy the less cheap ammo )
But hey it's a lot to bother for not much. Unless you like to change ammunition or you want to optimize your economy as much as possible.

[Guts]

I'd say since overpenetration is actually good for you in this game, polymer is really always the way to go. Expansion from soft tip does more damage if it hits a vital, but you can hit every vital with 1 shot of polymer and you don't really need to worry about the angle of the shot as much.