Roe Deer Scoring?

[HanaJae]

Hey all,
I just came across something strange that I can't seem to wrap my head around, but maybe I'm just missing something.

I hunted this roe deer today with an instant-kill heart shot and 100% integrity (screenshot provided, hopefully it comes up) and it scored only 707 (silver), despite it having 3-tined antlers that are way bigger than any other roe deer that I've hunted so far. Yesterday I hunted a gold-rated roe deer (two tines) that scored 845, and its antlers don't look nearly as impressive as these. Is this a glitch in the system or is there a reason why the scoring was painfully lower than what I expected?

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1766071489

[Woodyplank]

Nice rack. How much did he weigh? I've run across many animals with small racks but big bodies as well as small bodies with big racks. Was your conseq harvest at 100%? From what you've written it sounds like your integrity and quick bonus were both at 100%.

[HanaJae]

Originally posted by Mystery:

Nice rack. How much did he weigh? I've run across many animals with small racks but big bodies as well as small bodies with big racks. Was your conseq harvest at 100%? From what you've written it sounds like your integrity and quick bonus were both at 100%.

I wish I could tell you for sure about the weight and conseq harvest, I clicked through the harvest screen without thinking about it really. I don't suppose there's any way to get that information after the fact? My conseq harvest is almost always at 100%, although I did have a glitch happen to me recently where the tracks of a blacktail deer vanished and I couldn't find its body anywhere (the last blood spot was 0-25% health), I searched for an hour but gave up on it.

In theory... do you suppose that a low weight, plus 0% conseq harvest, could jolt the overall score of this roe deer down to only silver?

[ColdConduct]

Originally posted by HanaJae:

Originally posted by Mystery:

In theory... do you suppose that a low weight, plus 0% conseq harvest, could jolt the overall score of this roe deer down to only silver?

Definitely could. I'd wager he was a 900+ scoring Roe based on those twigs, but 500 of your score comes from your integrity, quick kill, and CH bonuses being at 100%. Unsure if the system creates each stat equally and divides them by 3, but if that's true then you lost 167 score before its weight and trophy rating was taken into account. Did you happen to get a spot on him with your binoculars? If so, what level did it say? If he was a 3 - Very Easy then you likely lost out on a Diamond. Also, I've heard many say this game does not render the Roe racks any differently once they've passed a certain scoring threshold. I'd appreciate if someone can confirm or deny that as well as I've never gotten a Diamond Roe myself.

[HanaJae]

Originally posted by Cold Conduct:

Originally posted by HanaJae:

I'd wager he was a 900+ scoring Roe based on those twigs, but 500 of your score comes from your integrity, quick kill, and CH bonuses being at 100%.

Dang, that's a shame. I love the roe deer in this game and would have loved to have one of diamond status. He does appear to be out of the ordinary, at least from what I've come across in my own game so far. I did spot him with my binoculars, I am almost certain that it said 3 - Very Easy, although I'm a bit new to understanding the scoring system so I don't know how to judge some of the information yet. I'm learning more and more from this post, so at least it's not a total loss!
I have him mounted in my trophy lodge regardless. Diamond score or not, at least he still looks awesome.

[ColdConduct]

Originally posted by HanaJae:

Originally posted by Cold Conduct:

Dang, that's a shame. I love the roe deer in this game and would have loved to have one of diamond status. He does appear to be out of the ordinary, at least from what I've come across in my own game so far. I did spot him with my binoculars, I am almost certain that it said 3 - Very Easy, although I'm a bit new to understanding the scoring system so I don't know how to judge some of the information yet. I'm learning more and more from this post, so at least it's not a total loss!
I have him mounted in my trophy lodge regardless. Diamond score or not, at least he still looks awesome.

Roe are extremely rare diamonds as well. I've been playing for about two years and I have not once seen a level 3. Hirschfelden is my favorite reserve, too, so it's not from lack of effort. Nice trophy to have regardless of score though so congrats.

As for difficulty levels, there are only 3 you need to remember when spotting. 3 - Very Easy, 5 - Medium, and 9 - Legendary. Those are the highest difficulties in the game depending on the species. Some like ducks, Roe, and Whitetail cap at 3, just about everything else in the game caps at 5, and most of the predatory species like Jackals, bears, Lynx, and so on all cap at level 9. The difficulty level is simply a number that indicates roughly how much the animal weighs and its trophy rating. If you see a 3, 5, or 9 then you are most likely dealing with a diamond animal. In some rare cases they may not be large enough to break diamond even if their difficulty is max, and likewise in some rare cases you can harvest a diamond that just BARELY broke through a 950 score if it was one difficulty level below max. 2, 4, and 8. Hope some of this helps.

[HanaJae]

Originally posted by Cold Conduct:

Originally posted by HanaJae:

Roe are extremely rare diamonds as well. I've been playing for about two years and I have not once seen a level 3. Hirschfelden is my favorite reserve, too, so it's not from lack of effort.

I took him down in Rinderland Gorge, in the same field that is automarked as a hunting opportunity for the "downed (diseased) bison" that is talked about in one of the side missions. If what you say is true then I probably missed out on a diamond score, dang it! It was a perfect shot and everything, straight through the heart.

Thanks a lot for the info, I'll keep it noted! Hopefully the game will give me another opportunity at a diamond roe. Good luck to you as well, I agree that Hirschfelden is an awesome place to hunt.

[Sleeper C]

Wow, to the racks. Impressive. Don’t think I have seen them that evolved before.

[HanaJae]

Judging by everyone's reactions, this must be a pretty rare find. Here's a better picture of him in my trophy lodge:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1766323695
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1766347900

[Woodyplank]

Each bonus area contributes a max of 166 pts (roughly) to an animals overall score. With a diamond being 950-1000 then having any one of those three bonus areas at 0% makes it impossible for you to harvest a diamond and could turn a 950 diamond into a silver.

The CH is odd in that sometimes changing reserves can drop it to 0%, taking too long to harvest a dead animal can do the same. I've had a couple days with panic attacks when the 1st thing I encountered and dropped on the spot was a max level animal. Was I at 100% yesterday? Did I count my bullets? Am I still at 100% today or did a wounded animal die overnight? So whenever possible I kill another animal (sometimes 3 other animals) and start harvesting those before I go go after the big one. Just in case...

Very nice buck by the way. He looks to be in the 220s and up TR wise for sure.

[HanaJae]

Originally posted by Mystery:

Each bonus area contributes a max of 166 pts (roughly) to an animals overall score. With a diamond being 950-1000 then having any one of those three bonus areas at 0% makes it impossible for you to harvest a diamond and could turn a 950 diamond into a silver.

The CH is odd in that sometimes changing reserves can drop it to 0%, taking too long to harvest a dead animal can do the same.

Very interesting... I'll have to keep that in mind and be more aware of my situation when observing potential diamond-level animals. I was able to get my first diamond the other day, a fallow deer from Hirschfelden... I must have had the right percentages to reach diamond level in that case. My lost/glitched Blacktail in the other reserve must have messed up my conseq harvest score before harvesting this roe deer. Thanks a lot for the help!

[AldoAZApache]

Has anyone gotten a level 3 Roe deer?

(going off memory of a animal guide chart I was looking at)
Please, correct me if I'm wrong..

see a lot of level 2's that are nice but can't remember seeing a level 3 at all...

^as for your post, my first thought was the consecutive harvest and or the animals *weight

[Hidden Gunman]

Nice display. Might go looking for one of those.

[AldoAZApache]

Originally posted by Cold Conduct:

Originally posted by HanaJae:

Roe are extremely rare diamonds as well. I've been playing for about two years and I have not once seen a level 3. Hirschfelden is my favorite reserve, too, so it's not from lack of effort.

Ops, never mind. this answers my question. Turns out they are just rare the lvl 3's

[HanaJae]

Hey guys! I have an update on this topic.
So, I was lucky enough to come across another 3-tined roe deer and take it down with 100%'s across the board. Even so, it only came to gold, not diamond.
With this in mind, my original roe may have only been a gold, not a diamond... Huh. I wonder what a diamond roe looks like.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1771531529
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1771531865

[ColdConduct]

Originally posted by Cold Conduct:

Originally posted by HanaJae:

Also, I've heard many say this game does not render the Roe racks any differently once they've passed a certain scoring threshold. I'd appreciate if someone can confirm or deny that as well as I've never gotten a Diamond Roe myself.

Quoting myself again as a response to the post above. This is why I'm curious about it. I have actually heard from multiple people that Roe racks stop varying after a certain point, however I cannot confirm and test it myself. Meaning, say, an 885 scoring Roe appears no different than a 985 aside from very slight noticeable differences in body size and difficulty when spotting. I wonder why this would be the case if true, because other small animals do not seem to have the same limitations.