deer and slugs

[Phoneend]

why is it the white and black, cant be taken with the 12 ga slug but the 20 ga slug doesnt do anything?

[stormrider]

Because 20 ga is a smaller caliber than 12 ga. Therefore a 20 ga slug does less damage than a 12 ga slug and can be used for smaller game.

[Phoneend]

if this was real life, and if they looked that american type of hunting the 12 ga slugs be used for deer and not bears, its called deer slugs for reason

[BEW ShadowWolf]

there is 12 ga buckshot which from its name is used for deer, slugs are very heavy and are not noted as deer slugs.

[Phoneend]

...., do you even hunt in real life, go to the store and look for slugs you only find 12 ga slugs with words deer slugs on them

[magicISO Sweden]

https://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/winchester-super-x-12-gauge-2-3-4-shells-1-oz-slugs-15-rounds?a=1588402 in real life my friend use this for wildboar and elk

[stormrider]

I see your point, but if we applied that logic we could shoot almos every deer with bigger guns. There is no problem with shooting red deer with .338 or roe deer with a 7mm magnum irl for example. I guess this is just how they balance the game.

[rhwilson1953]

Originally posted by stormrider:

Because 20 ga is a smaller caliber than 12 ga. Therefore a 20 ga slug does less damage than a 12 ga slug and can be used for smaller game.

IRL, when I was a kid my dad used to take down whitetail with a JC Higgins (Sears) 410 with deer slugs, so the notion of a 20 ga not being powerful enough to take them down is pure bs. Never heard of anyone using buckshot for deer as they tear up too much flesh and don't have penetrating power. Game wardens and county sheriffs will use buckshot at close range to dispatch a whitetail injured by a car.

[T-Bone Biggins]

Originally posted by Phoneend:

...., do you even hunt in real life, go to the store and look for slugs you only find 12 ga slugs with words deer slugs on them

I killed a 180lb whitetail with a 20ga slug while checking on our cattle during deer season. People like you that keep talking about needing powerful rounds to take deer likely never hunt in real life.

I kept an old 20ga 870 in the work truck that my dad bought for me when I was 12 and the re-sale was near nothing so we just kept it as a beater truck gun. Walking near a pond I took a 25yd shot and it hit the top of his heart ( was aiming a bit higher because the slugs shot oddly low in that gun) and turned his heart into jelly. A 20ga slug still has lots of energy, and I hunt whitetail with a .223 using Federal Fusion 62gr soft-point because our stand has a field of view that goes out to 150 yards, the upper limit of the range I'd use the .223 on.

I got 2 deer with headshots with my homebuilt AR-15 using this ammo, 1 dropped because I clipped the spine and shocked it and gave it a finisher headshot with my pistol because it was out but breathing. 4th one I got last year was a doe that I shot clean through the heart at 45 yards after she walked under my deer stand and started walking away, was a difficult quartering away shot. I aimed behind the front leg elbow and it cleaved the heart at that angle, clean hole slightly larger than the bullet diameter. 4 proverbial notches on my 16" barreled AR-15 in 2 years (get a farm tag and state tag each year) since I built it and that is using what is considered a "weak" .223.

Thing is I am using a bullet designed to kill whitetail deer and my gun shoots sub-MOA groups (very good for something that cost me $850 total), and whitetail are surprisingly one of the more difficult game animals to kill. They can run a half mile without a heart, seen it with my own eyes. My friend landed a liver shot and lost a deer with a 7mm RemMag because he used a round designed for bear and elk, it likely penciled through and left only 3 drops of blood spread over 10 yards. We circled around for sign at least 4 hours and it was completely lost, my friend was ashamed about it. He bought a "downloaded" 7mm mag that had less powder in it and a lighter bullet, a polytip that expanded a lot faster. Next deer he hit in shoulder/lung and itwent down with the bullet was inside it's carcass still. That means the energy was dumped into the deer itself and not wasted with overpenetration.

[T-Bone Biggins]

Originally posted by rhwilson1953:

Originally posted by stormrider:

Because 20 ga is a smaller caliber than 12 ga. Therefore a 20 ga slug does less damage than a 12 ga slug and can be used for smaller game.

IRL, when I was a kid my dad used to take down whitetail with a JC Higgins (Sears) 410 with deer slugs, so the notion of a 20 ga not being powerful enough to take them down is pure bs. Never heard of anyone using buckshot for deer as they tear up too much flesh and don't have penetrating power. Game wardens and county sheriffs will use buckshot at close range to dispatch a whitetail injured by a car.

Sigh I made a long post saying the same thing before I read your post. Remember, lots of people swear you need a 45-70 or .35whelen to take deer :/

I will say the .35whelen nails the deer to the spot. No chasing down blood trails for sure but you might need 2 bags because typically the shoulder that gets shot flies off too. Meat wastage is annoying, this is why I don't use .17hmr on squirrel or anything beyond my brothers Browning X-Bolt in .270 or Ruger 77 in .280Rem for deer.

[BEW ShadowWolf]

Originally posted by Phoneend:

...., do you even hunt in real life, go to the store and look for slugs you only find 12 ga slugs with words deer slugs on them

what we have to remember is this is a game and EW most likely will base the gun restrictions on local laws. even in the states hunting laws differ, so a weapon that is legal to use a given species in one state can be illegal in another. a 12 ga slug can be legal in one state/country to use on deer and illegal in another state/country.

though in this game no one is stopping you from shooting a deer with any weapon that you want to. so if you really wanted to you could use the .470 on everything in the game from ducks and rabbits to moose and bison.

if you want to get a decent score on the animals, use what EW has said is the proper weapon/ammo for the given animal.