The devs need to be clear!

[Eekhoorn]

After playing this game for almost a year, I just would like to ask one simple question and I'd really appreciate it if someone is willing to make an official statement other than "we're working on it".

The game has been buggy since day one. We all know that and I'm not going to make a bug list to point out everything that is wrong with the game. However, there are two bugs that NEED to be fixed before anything else:

1) Losing progress: Speaks for itself. No one likes to play a game for hours on end only to wake up one day and find out all the hard work is gone. This has happened not only to me, but to hundreds of other players as well according to the bug thread.

Right now, it feels no one even cares. People post their game breaking problem in the thread, hoping for an answer but not even a whisper can be heard from the developer can be heard in the topic.

If you can't or won't fix it, AT THE VERY LEAST: make people aware they NEED to backup their saves with a big red message flashing on the title page of the game itself or on the store page... I know you're not gonna do that, so please FIX the damn bug. Or let us know what the problem is and what you think needs to be done. Ignoring the problem won't make it go away and I can't stress enough how game breaking this bug is.

2) Warping animals: Nothing makes you more frustrared than zooming in on an animal and poof... all of a sudden it is gone. Oh wait... now it's running on the other side of the mountain. The whole point of this game is to hunt, not to play wack a mole. Please give us something here: tell us what you are planning to do on this other than: we're working on it. Or try to explain why this can't be fixed. People are way more understanding if you are being open. Keeping you lips sealed is what does the damage.

It has been almost a year now. I'm getting tired of the promises you keep making without delivering. We frequently get super huge patches so you clearly haven't abandoned the game, but the most important things never seem to get fixed or mentioned.

Either tell us to go take a hike or be frank, but please break the silence one way or the other.

[HunterKiller]

Reminds me of several other games I have that get the same promises but, when they get updates, no matter how large or, small, none of the important issues has been addressed. Just more junk added to keep the fanboys happy.

[Evil Ways]

Im not one to talk about being too critical, but we really dont know what the underlying issues that they are having to deal with really are. In other words.... what they maybe dealing with what looks simplistic on the surface, but have huge underlying complications to work around.

Fixed my Graphics Issue by Reinstalling the game..... must have some how corrupted a file somewhere...

[PicSoul]

1) Losing progress:

I think the issue with saves going missing is fixed for the most part. A few months back it seemed to be a huge issue for sure. Then they released a patch that was said to have fixed it. Now, more and more of the reports I see on this lately end with the player saying they either hit the New game button or it happened when their PC crashed. I'm not blaming the players that have this issue after a crash at all, but I think some of the reports are from players not understanding what "New Game" does. However, I think it's silly that we have a cloud save feature that either I don't understand completely, or it isn't working correctly. I would think if the game or your PC crashed while playing that the next time you play it would just load the last cloud save, but for some reason that's not how it seems to work half the time and to be honest, I'm not sure how exactly it is supposed to work.

2) Warping animals:

Yes, teleporting animals is very frustrating and I'm sure they are aware of it and are looking into a fix.

I'm going to be honest. I haven't played the game since the Halloween event because of issues like teleporting animals. The last few times I've turned the game on it was not to play but to look at something in-game and to try and duplicate a bug or to understand an issue someone is having an attempt to help them. Right now, for me, the game is too frustrating to try and play.

As far as the lack of communication, I agree. I know they are working on the game and that things will improve but I don't understand why they have been so quiet lately. Just a simple weekly report or something would go a long way.

As a moderator, I try my best to help players with issues and reassure players that they are working on the game and that things will improve but the word of a moderator doesn't have the same effect or acceptance as a response from a Dev or even the Comunity Manager. I think the recent survey was a great idea and shows that they are listening and do care but I agree, more communication is desperately needed.

[Drinkcup]

there are 4200 bug & technical issues posts in this forum alone.
Also probably half of the threads in the General forum are about bugs, issues, problems. let's call it 7,000 total.


with all these thousands of bugs and issues, there has not been a patch for nearly half a year.



it's becoming pretty clear what matters to this dev - consoles, releasing dlc, and letting problems lie. Not fixing anything and relying on the first few hours of atmosphere to carry the game.

Well, that doesn't last. The game has serious issues and the dev obviously does not care. The proof is in the pudding.

[PicSoul]

To be fair, the bug report section has that many posts because instead of searching the forums and adding more info to an already reported bug which helps the developers immensely, most people report the same bug over and over. I could spend a month merging bug reports of the same bug and reduce that thread count by a serious amount but why bother when people will continue to report the same bug someone else just reported. It also doesn't help that there are bugs from the launch of the game still present. For example, The Tritium sight bug has been an issue since release and gets reported multiple times almost every week. Bugs like that add to the thread count pretty quickly. Not to mention, negative voices are always louder and more frequent, especially on Steam forums.

The last update was on December 15th. Not sure why you think it's been nearly half a year.

The Devs do care, if I didn't think they did, I wouldn't continue to be a moderator. Why would I put so much time and effort into trying to help the community with issues and moderating these forums? I'm a volunteer moderator so...

[SleeprunnerInc]

The losing progress bug happens due to many things.
My friend lost his progress cause bitdefender was deleting the files created when he played.
Disabling and adding an exception there fixed his issue so you guys should take a look at all your firewalls and antiviruses.

[afwsi]

You can’t look at the number of bug report threads and think the game is not getting updated. I know multiple times, I have seen the same thing posted few threads apart. How many of these are legit bugs vs players thinking it’s a bug or don’t know how to play the game. One example, is players going to the store and not able to get/use the atv, when you got to go to the garage. Another one is the saving game issue, when that is 99% on the users side.

[❄️The Last Frontier 😊]

Originally posted by PicSoul:

1) Losing progress:

I think the issue with saves going missing is fixed for the most part. A few months back it seemed to be a huge issue for sure. Then they released a patch that was said to have fixed it. Now, more and more of the reports I see on this lately end with the player saying they either hit the New game button or it happened when their PC crashed. I'm not blaming the players that have this issue after a crash at all, but I think some of the reports are from players not understanding what "New Game" does. However, I think it's silly that we have a cloud save feature that either I don't understand completely, or it isn't working correctly. I would think if the game or your PC crashed while playing that the next time you play it would just load the last cloud save, but for some reason that's not how it seems to work half the time and to be honest, I'm not sure how exactly it is supposed to work.

2) Warping animals:

Yes, teleporting animals is very frustrating and I'm sure they are aware of it and are looking into a fix.

I'm going to be honest. I haven't played the game since the Halloween event because of issues like teleporting animals. The last few times I've turned the game on it was not to play but to look at something in-game and to try and duplicate a bug or to understand an issue someone is having an attempt to help them. Right now, for me, the game is too frustrating to try and play.

As far as the lack of communication, I agree. I know they are working on the game and that things will improve but I don't understand why they have been so quiet lately. Just a simple weekly report or something would go a long way.

As a moderator, I try my best to help players with issues and reassure players that they are working on the game and that things will improve but the word of a moderator doesn't have the same effect or acceptance as a response from a Dev or even the Comunity Manager. I think the recent survey was a great idea and shows that they are listening and do care but I agree, more communication is desperately needed.

No offense meant Pic as you do a great job but I agree with the OP the developers should update the community some of what they are doing to remedy issues along with potential (if possible) estimates on when it might be fixed.

Cause honestly an update on new features doesn't mean much when a lot are complaining about bugs that have been out there since day one or been out there at least for awhile.

I do agree that silence can be as damaging as not handling the issues at all as just leads to mistrust if people feel their needs (in this case needs to see the bugs fixed) are falling on deaf ears.

The survey though agreed was a great idea and for me personally this is the first game I have ever played where I saw the devs put out a survey asking players what they want.

Better updates on bug fixes would be one I would add that is needed.

[Rauch]

Originally posted by PicSoul:

1) Losing progress:

I think the issue with saves going missing is fixed for the most part. A few months back it seemed to be a huge issue for sure. Then they released a patch that was said to have fixed it. Now, more and more of the reports I see on this lately end with the player saying they either hit the New game button or it happened when their PC crashed. I'm not blaming the players that have this issue after a crash at all, but I think some of the reports are from players not understanding what "New Game" does. However, I think it's silly that we have a cloud save feature that either I don't understand completely, or it isn't working correctly. I would think if the game or your PC crashed while playing that the next time you play it would just load the last cloud save, but for some reason that's not how it seems to work half the time and to be honest, I'm not sure how exactly it is supposed to work.

2) Warping animals:

Yes, teleporting animals is very frustrating and I'm sure they are aware of it and are looking into a fix.

I'm going to be honest. I haven't played the game since the Halloween event because of issues like teleporting animals. The last few times I've turned the game on it was not to play but to look at something in-game and to try and duplicate a bug or to understand an issue someone is having an attempt to help them. Right now, for me, the game is too frustrating to try and play.

As far as the lack of communication, I agree. I know they are working on the game and that things will improve but I don't understand why they have been so quiet lately. Just a simple weekly report or something would go a long way.

As a moderator, I try my best to help players with issues and reassure players that they are working on the game and that things will improve but the word of a moderator doesn't have the same effect or acceptance as a response from a Dev or even the Comunity Manager. I think the recent survey was a great idea and shows that they are listening and do care but I agree, more communication is desperately needed.

Have to agree on #1. Since I acquired the game, I've not once had reset progress, save perhaps challenge progress? But this is an online thing via the Club, AFAIK, and might be explained by my own internet outage. I guess maybe it involves people who play with more than one character (if that's possible).

As for #2, while it's an issue I noticed back before I bought it (at the time I would watch streams and had dabbled with the Classic as a player and had been curious on this version), I don't find these teleporting animals frequently enough for it to be an issue. In multiplayer sessions with 6+ of us, we have this sometimes happen when our game runs too long or something, but generally a reset of the map fixes it for up to around 2 hours of gameplay without odd behaving animals. I don't find it happening enough to disrupt my experience, but perhaps I'm more patient than most.

I'll double down on the fact they clearly care, otherwise they wouldn't have been on-top of the .270 event and releasing a survey detailing things that literally everyone of my fellow CotW players/friends all loved. We couldn't stop talking about how the Survey basically hit the nail for what we all thought needed to be in/introduced.

They clearly care for the game, but remember the company isn't big and CotW is NOT their primary game. Most of their funding, I can safely bet, still comes from TheHunter Classic which still receives content. The quality of DLC and what we have so far shows that they care for it, but they need time when they're fixing a game with an engine they've essentially built to graphically surpass the original and (I would think) eventually functionally surpass it in terms of features.

There are games with far less dev interaction with the community that take far longer to fix bugs like this. The solution isn't to wig out and lash out, it's to just be patient and play the game or not. Regardless of the teleporting animal bugs, weird ATV glitches, and the like? My friends and I all love the game and have a blast playing it together and the older of us enjoy playing lengthy singleplayer sessions. Just a matter of being mature enough to have the patience for the bugs to get fixed, if it's possible at all. We simply can't know because we don't have access to the tools the devs have.

[❄️The Last Frontier 😊]

Originally posted by afwsi:

You can’t look at the number of bug report threads and think the game is not getting updated. I know multiple times, I have seen the same thing posted few threads apart. How many of these are legit bugs vs players thinking it’s a bug or don’t know how to play the game. One example, is players going to the store and not able to get/use the atv, when you got to go to the garage. Another one is the saving game issue, when that is 99% on the users side.

That is true but I think for most of us here that post daily we can tell the different between a bug and a newb just not knowing the game and am sure the devs can also as known bugs are brought up repeatedly like the teleporting animals or the bear issue we had around Halloween!

[PicSoul]

Originally posted by The Last Frontier:

No offense meant Pic as you do a great job but I agree with the OP the developers should update the community some of what they are doing to remedy issues along with potential (if possible) estimates on when it might be fixed.

I agree that's why I said:

"As far as the lack of communication, I agree. I know they are working on the game and that things will improve but I don't understand why they have been so quiet lately. Just a simple weekly report or something would go a long way."

and

"I think the recent survey was a great idea and shows that they are listening and do care but I agree, more communication is desperately needed."

No offense taken.

[❄️The Last Frontier 😊]

Originally posted by PicSoul:

Originally posted by The Last Frontier:

No offense meant Pic as you do a great job but I agree with the OP the developers should update the community some of what they are doing to remedy issues along with potential (if possible) estimates on when it might be fixed.

I agree that's why I said:

"As far as the lack of communication, I agree. I know they are working on the game and that things will improve but I don't understand why they have been so quiet lately. Just a simple weekly report or something would go a long way."

and

"I think the recent survey was a great idea and shows that they are listening and do care but I agree, more communication is desperately needed."

HA HA Missed that sorry happens when trying to do to many things at the same time HA HA. Haven't even booted up the game this morning been one of those mornings HA HA

[Fischkopf]

I couldnt also not imagine the loss of a complete safegame. - until i lost mine after +900h of Gameplay some weeks ago. So if things not happen to you doesnt mean it doesnt exist..
I feel bad if known bugs are beeing not solved for a real long time - but much more worse is it when there are brought in new bugs cracking things that have been working properly before..
The problem with the strange animal spawning is since i bought the game but with the teleporting bug this issue has been brought to a new level. such things should be killed immediately - if not possible otherwise - via rollback!

[Capn' Dubbymon]

yea i cant even find the correct aspect ratio to use, i have to choose whether i want good looking scenery or a good frame rate, cant ever find a happy middle ground. its either play in 10fps or 200fps it always seems like. slow mo or turbo mode? normally i just put it on "turbo" mode to get places in a timly mannor, and then reset it to look good for the specific hunt. legit gamplay for sure! one benifit of a low frame rate is that i can put three bullets in a elk before it even flinches hahaha....with a bolt action!