Just deer fox and bison in europe ?

[ash0787]

I wondered if they would add the more animals yet, hirschfelden is an original map right ? it feel empty because there is no wildlife, it makes it seem like an 'early access' game. Despite the best efforts of our politicians to urbanize everywhere we do still have many types of wildlife in Europe you know ? For example .... Rabbit ( commonly hunted here ) Pheasant ( again common to eat ) Wood Pidgeon. Squirrel, Otter, hedgehog, badger. water vole / mouse. For bird there are many ... Heron, Kingfisher, Swan, red kite, kestrel. I have been able to get a few ducks sometimes in this game but thats all.

Oh yes wild boar, its in the game but I don't find many. Fox run away too easily and I don't want to shoot it because its cute. We don't really shoot them here, just fox and hounds which is now banned.

Now Extinct / rare animal in my country - Wolf, Lion, Eagle Owl. Peregrin Falcon, Bears. Wild Horse, Lynx. Beaver, Crane. Goshawk, Pine Marten. Some people are thinking of reintroducing some of these animal into the wild here.

[Campi]

Dunno what your Country is,but Im from Germany and what they have forgotten is Gems(not Gemsbock) (a wild goat),Mufflon(wild sheep) rabbit, hare, pheasants ofc too. And mb Badger martendog martens etc.Thats something they could add.And just btw lynx and wolves arent extinct in Germany we have well over a hundred of both roaming freely in Germany.
i would recommend to add Gems in the mountainarea west of Hirsch and mb some random badgers kinda like foxes mb.

[ash0787]

England but im in the southeast / relatively near London so its not too wildlifey here, its more in places with large protected forests or simply mountains where building is too difficult that you find the more interesting stuff, I think the animals have trouble getting past the farmers fences too, because I have only seen deer near my town twice ever. I'm interesting in germany / poland / ukraine / western russia for the reason you said, its a more natural place. I thought gembock was an african animal . I had no idea there were Bison in germany either until I played this game. They are so tough though ive seen them take multiple rifle shots to the head.

I've never hunted but my grandad used to and he would cook the rabbit and pheasants and we ate them for dinner, but he never took me with him to see how to do it, he also kept weasels which I presume were for hunting but im not sure.

Aside from shooting a few ducks in the pacific north west USA map that sit on the lake I don't understand how bird hunting works in this game, I have shot a few random birds down that fly around ( seagulls ? ) but when they fall I can never find the body / cant harvest them. I guess I should search youtube ?

[McSqurl Nugget]

Originally posted by ash0787:

I wondered if they would add the more animals yet, hirschfelden is an original map right ? it feel empty because there is no wildlife, it makes it seem like an 'early access' game. Despite the best efforts of our politicians to urbanize everywhere we do still have many types of wildlife in Europe you know ? For example .... Rabbit ( commonly hunted here ) Pheasant ( again common to eat ) Wood Pidgeon. Squirrel, Otter, hedgehog, badger. water vole / mouse. For bird there are many ... Heron, Kingfisher, Swan, red kite, kestrel. I have been able to get a few ducks sometimes in this game but thats all.

Oh yes wild boar, its in the game but I don't find many. Fox run away too easily and I don't want to shoot it because its cute. We don't really shoot them here, just fox and hounds which is now banned.

Now Extinct / rare animal in my country - Wolf, Lion, Eagle Owl. Peregrin Falcon, Bears. Wild Horse, Lynx. Beaver, Crane. Goshawk, Pine Marten. Some people are thinking of reintroducing some of these animal into the wild here.

I don't think any of these you've mentioned belong in a hunting game, other than rabbit since it's in other maps, and i would like to see pheasants also. Would be a good addition to both Hirsch and Layton as pheasants are hunted frequently in the PNW.

I'm guessing they left rabbits off Hirsch as they have them in Layton already. Wild boar are easy to find, they're in Petershain near or in the corn fields all the time. Hirsch is far from empty it's a toss up which is more populated, Layton or Hirsch.

[CaptainNebulous]

Nothing in this game "runs away too easily." While Fox do require a tiny bit of patience if they're running away that frequently on you then you must be using no patience at all.

[Mr. Ed]

Hirschfield has roughly (+- 10%) the same number of animals as any other reserve, or so I've been led to believe. Before you give up and say there are no animals check your hunters profile page and see how many animals you've scared by sight, smell or noise.

All reserves have what I call "dead zones" meaning areas animals may one day discover but don't get your hopes up.

If U use the wind and terrain to your advantage you will find animals near water sources. Operative word is "near" since it means they could be anywhere within 100-150 meters of the water. Find eating, drinking and resting need zones.

[Campi]

OK,quick intro into german Wildlife: Roe(1000000 hunted every year) Wild boar (500000)
Red Deer(100000) Fallow(80000) Sikadeer(not sitka) euro Gems(chamois/kind of wild goat) mufflon()wild sheep each 50000 or so.lynx wolf each 100 roaming wild Bison there is 1 herd of 20 or so roaming wild.And some Ibex in the south 5000 or so. And just google "Gams" or "Mufflon" would be cool animals to add ingame they would fit perfect in the empty rocky areas as i said.

[Gibson]

I wish they populated the map more. I love the map but walking around for an hour and only finding a few animals is dreadful.

[nEcrodamos]

The map is good the way it is! I live in Germany and hunting is not "walk 10 minutes to see something".... Guys, pls play the overpopulated maps if you like but don't force this on all maps!

[Cliffs]

I know this is NOT a sim but if any of you hunt IRL, there are many hunting days where there is nothing to be seen and/or heard.

I like that you have to HUNT some of these maps.

[General Saufenberg]

Originally posted by Campi:

Dunno what your Country is,but Im from Germany and what they have forgotten is Gems(not Gemsbock) (a wild goat),Mufflon(wild sheep) rabbit, hare, pheasants ofc too. And mb Badger martendog martens etc.Thats something they could add.And just btw lynx and wolves arent extinct in Germany we have well over a hundred of both roaming freely in Germany.
i would recommend to add Gems in the mountainarea west of Hirsch and mb some random badgers kinda like foxes mb.

do not forget the annoying raccoons.^^
they are a plest here in colone. muskrats are also pretty common.

[Graubart]

Well, I played Hirsch for a long time before I started into Layton, then (lately) into Parque Fernando. Hirschfelden I never had (and do still not have) an issue to find animals. May be because I have been "hunting" from the beginning? My father was hunter and I joined him often, so I have a good clue on how it really is. For me, Hirschfelden is the most hunting-like map in the game. Boar are actually a plague after you discover some need zones. Fox is really cute and nearly everywhere (I once met one in the green around the Houses of Parliament in London :-P), they are actually behaving quite realistic.

Parque Fernando is just an animal park (even by the storyline), Layton is nice but overpopulated. I like them, but they do not really feel like "hunting", with way too many predators around. I hiked for a fortnight at the west-coast trail in Canada and another two weeks in the Rocky Mountain National Park in Colorado, USA and did not meet a single mountain lion or bear. In Layton and Fernando you almost trip on them if you are not careful.

Being a German who lives in Norway (a country with a few wild brown bears, lynx, wolves and wolverines), I strongly oppose to be allowed to hunt them in a hunting game. There is already, despite better knowledge, all too much of a paranoia around regarding wolves and other predators, CoTW should not play into the hands of those who would like to hunt them again in Europe. Gems would fit as an additional species in the mountains at Hirsch, possibly sika-deer and badgers in the forests, but that's about it..

[CaptainNebulous]

Originally posted by Graubart:

Well, I played Hirsch for a long time before I started into Layton, then (lately) into Parque Fernando. Hirschfelden I never had (and do still not have) an issue to find animals. May be because I have been "hunting" from the beginning? My father was hunter and I joined him often, so I have a good clue on how it really is. For me, Hirschfelden is the most hunting-like map in the game. Boar are actually a plague after you discover some need zones. Fox is really cute and nearly everywhere (I once met one in the green around the Houses of Parliament in London :-P), they are actually behaving quite realistic.

Parque Fernando is just an animal park (even by the storyline), Layton is nice but overpopulated. I like them, but they do not really feel like "hunting", with way too many predators around. I hiked for a fortnight at the west-coast trail in Canada and another two weeks in the Rocky Mountain National Park in Colorado, USA and did not meet a single mountain lion or bear. In Layton and Fernando you almost trip on them if you are not careful.

Being a German who lives in Norway (a country with a few wild brown bears, lynx, wolves and wolverines), I strongly oppose to be allowed to hunt them in a hunting game. There is already, despite better knowledge, all too much of a paranoia around regarding wolves and other predators, CoTW should not play into the hands of those who would like to hunt them again in Europe. Gems would fit as an additional species in the mountains at Hirsch, possibly sika-deer and badgers in the forests, but that's about it..

I personally don't think real world worries and political correctness belongs in games. We play games to get away from that. In the real world, I think even MORE species should be protected but in a game there is absolutely no reason to have an issue with killing any kind of animal. Nothing you really do in a video game is going to influence what people think is right or wrong in the real world.

[Z O C K]

Originally posted by CaptainNebulous:

Originally posted by Graubart:

Well, I played Hirsch for a long time before I started into Layton, then (lately) into Parque Fernando. Hirschfelden I never had (and do still not have) an issue to find animals. May be because I have been "hunting" from the beginning? My father was hunter and I joined him often, so I have a good clue on how it really is. For me, Hirschfelden is the most hunting-like map in the game. Boar are actually a plague after you discover some need zones. Fox is really cute and nearly everywhere (I once met one in the green around the Houses of Parliament in London :-P), they are actually behaving quite realistic.

Parque Fernando is just an animal park (even by the storyline), Layton is nice but overpopulated. I like them, but they do not really feel like "hunting", with way too many predators around. I hiked for a fortnight at the west-coast trail in Canada and another two weeks in the Rocky Mountain National Park in Colorado, USA and did not meet a single mountain lion or bear. In Layton and Fernando you almost trip on them if you are not careful.

Being a German who lives in Norway (a country with a few wild brown bears, lynx, wolves and wolverines), I strongly oppose to be allowed to hunt them in a hunting game. There is already, despite better knowledge, all too much of a paranoia around regarding wolves and other predators, CoTW should not play into the hands of those who would like to hunt them again in Europe. Gems would fit as an additional species in the mountains at Hirsch, possibly sika-deer and badgers in the forests, but that's about it..

I personally don't think real world worries and political correctness belongs in games. We play games to get away from that. In the real world, I think even MORE species should be protected but in a game there is absolutely no reason to have an issue with killing any kind of animal. Nothing you really do in a video game is going to influence what people think is right or wrong in the real world.

I agree with everything you said. After all, if you really want to simulate just don't kill them, you can even admire them and even take a picture. This is a game and you make your decisions and I believe that as our friend said, because it is a game it will not influence what people think. The more animals on each map the better, regardless of who is playing, because you will have more animals to enjoy the beauty that this fantastic game gives us, as I said it is up to you to decide whether or not to kill the animal, and how it will be yours hunting style (by the real way or the fun).

Originally posted by Seat the Chairless:

I wish they populated the map more. I love the map but walking around for an hour and only finding a few animals is dreadful.

About finding no animals on the map ... I think you are hunting the wrong way (in the game), because on all maps you can find many animals, just learn which times and places are best for hunting each type of animal. I had a lot of trouble with it at the beginning too and to this day I have a hard time finding animals after 12:00 and that's why I give the hunt for hunting from 05:30 until 14:00, after that come back For the start time 05:30 am, between this time the animals are usually eating, drinking or resting, it will depend on the animal.

Happy Hunting everyone

[Campi]

As a German that lives in Germany i can tell u that the wolf do make Problems here.Especially with cattle.Ofc this "omg they will eat me" is mostly ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.But if u ask some farmers they will be pretty pissed.Anyway i dont rly understand why there should be protected species just because they are one species and not another.If the population is large enough and they arent endangered from hunting,i consider it totally fine to hunt them.A good example for that is euro bison in Poland and the Ukraine.A rare species that is hunted but absolutely not endangered from legal hunters.

In General for every none-rl-hunter u should look which animal are commonly hunted and hunters like to hunt them(EU: roe,red,wild boar/US:white Blacktail Mule ) they(the hunters) take care that there is no underpopulation rather an overpopulation.All this "is it ethical to hunt blablabla" usually comes from these very rare and exotic animals getting extinct from Poachers.
As a rl hunter that hunts roe and wild boar i can tell u that i rly like these animals and def DONT want them to be extinct.And in the end.Come on this is a friggin GAME >_>

[Graubart]

Absolutely, this is a game, you play it your way, I play it my way. And political correctness matters for me, if it doesn't for you, stay away from me. I will definitely not go silent just because some others decide they do not need rules or correctness. You do not need to share my standards, but you will not stop me promoting them. No need to discuss this either, it is a matter of principle.

@Campi ok, let's talk facts here: How many sheep and cattle(!!!) are killed by wolves in Germany each year? How many die due to maltreatment at the farm or while transported to the slaughterhouse? How many are killed by road accidants? How many are just "disappearing" or false-flagged because the farmer wants to hide the real reason? You could know this, since no farmer leaves out the insurance money, so insurances have the statistics. And they will tell you that proven kills by predators are somewhere hidden in the statistical noise, absolutely insignificant. I could not care less about a sheep lost to a wolf, the farmer gets reimbursed anyways, and he is free to hire a nightguard. You are the first person ever, btw, to tell me wolves kill cattle :-). Could you please elaborate a bit further on this? Should be a world sensation!