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To answer your question about scent eliminator, it's not needed at all. Of course, if you are planning on sitting and waiting upwind, then scent eliminator will be required, but generally you'll want to spray the scent upwind and move to the left or right so the animal's broadside is exposed when it approaches. I always use scent eliminator anyway... it makes things so much easier.
Finally, if you're going to use scent lures, you'll definitely want to take the relevant skills for it. Of course, if you're more into your stalking there's probably not all that much of a need for scents. They can be useful for setting up a clean shot, but it's usually very time-consuming and not necessary as the animals tends to approach from an angle and will trot about from side to side once they arrive at the call.
I've never been a huge fan of the callers in both thehunter games... they've always seemed a little too effective.
I actually just had a Red Deer come in to a scent, but he got bugged out on a tree or something and was stuck. Ha.
Did ya kill it? I would have to make up for some of the things that were bugged ie 7mm & 338.
Back on topic.
I don't use the scents in game. Don't need them I guess. I've used the scent eliminator but I don't really know if it works.
I know in the classic all you had to do was go prone and the animal would just about walk over you but in this game they stop a little bit away from you.
Callers are much more effective, even if it's depend on species. For me that's the best choice to attract game.
Scent eliminator simply never work for me. Bought 5 bottle (bugged : you can't see the remaining dose) and it never make any differnce with or without it. So i didn't bought new ones and stoped loosing time and money using it. And in fact if scent lures are effective (when i'll put points on skills), it obvious that scent eliminator will be useless then, as said by Xanton.
By now i just make my best to face the wind and use callers ; to me the best way to attract game.
@Snipawolfe : I hear ya man.
The only problem I have with this kind of hunting is the wind is ALWAYS!!!!!!!!! blowing towards the west or south . I can never get a hunt in walking just south SW or west. :(
Strange, for me wind can come from everywhere, even if that's true that in some places it never change direction... quite as in real life, in fact.
when i choose a zone to hunt i check the wind direction, then i choose the outpost that will give me the best position with the wind during my trip to the hunting zone. That way i can "place" the wind as desire... But yes, it means you have discover most of the map.
Scent Lures and Callers have two values :
1. Attractiveness
2. Duration
Scent Eliminator only has duration. It removes 33% of the animals awareness, that awareness being smell, but the animal can still use sight and sound (the last 66% of it's senses). If scent eliminator isn't working for anybody, it's because they are still aware of you 66% of the time, less if you have the skills to reduce noise and hidden status (Soft Feet, Improvised Blind).
Animal Difficulty controls those values, with perhaps a "cool-down" timer that is controlled by it's "Alert" level. The 3rd level of "Spotting Knowledge" allows the player to show the Alert level.
Posture is another factor (prone,crouch,standing). The amount of time in a particular posture against an animals Alert level might also control the cool-down timer. An "alert" animal takes longer to cool-down.
A player can control the animals "cool-down" by using one or more methods, however, there is still a chance it won't work at all. When it doesn't work, the player needs to consider all the factors before blaming one method.
The following screen pic is a Legendary Red Deer that was suddenly attracted by Red Deer Scent and ran right up to me. I was prone and in good cover at night, but I spent a very long time getting him this close, and I'm unsure what alert level he was but from experience I would say it was at "attentive" (two steps above calm, one step below alert) ...
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=909081790
On a side note .... Red Deer at night sometimes are in smaller groups. In my case above, I was struggling with 3 different groups, each group had a buck and a few does. I could only get a vocal response from the doe and she wouldn't come close. It was obvious to me that she wasn't attracted to me because she was following the buck, and since the bucks were all level 6+ then those bucks were stubborn, which lead to the doe being stubborn. After I killed the level-9 buck, his doe was more than happy to walk to me, and I killed her as well.
EDIT : .... A 14m kill of a level-9 Red Deer using scent lure shows it works, as long as you (the player) have the skills and patience to make it work.
I have already used callers to call up every species but bison, fox, and coyotes and have been stomped for my troubles. All I need is them closing in on me and being randy. No thanks.
I have used the scent eliminator and it does seem to work sometimes.
Haha, yes ... that's the caveat. When the animal is within 50m, I crouch (from prone) and it stops them from trampling me. I was very lucky to not get trampled by the Red Deer buck, it was a near miss of 14m (thankfully).
Yeah, scent eliminator works for me, but it's still a coin toss (RNG). The screen pic below shows a fox under the effect of scent eliminator. I had to use the "Startle Call" to stop him from circling around me :
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=909106882
Overall, I spent most of my early levels observing animals instead of using a "shoot on sight" policy. No harm or foul to which method works for a player, but don't expect a least-used method to work if players don't know how that least-used method works. Apples and oranges.
I rarely have trampling be a concern since I like to crouch a lot more than prone just for visibility, and this often causes the animals to stop and stare at 10-15 meters. Sometimes I will be swarmed though which can make finding the right target and getting a good shot before one wanders too close and scares the rest off a challenge.
Have to say, I've never encountered the "empty world" issue a lot of people seem to run in to. I also tend to abuse need zones when I find myself looking for specific animals or in a hurry to hunt something, though.
But I have most success with the moose scent. I use that stuff all the time, and go through it quite quickly. It seems that once one gets a sniff, more follow. I sit down on the lowlands near the Calburn outpost and have moose everywhere. Mainly cows, but that's now changed since I started using the call - which goes back to what I was saying. It may bring in the whole lot, but once you start with some of the other calls, it may "thin out the herd" and more bucks/bulls come in.