Why did I expect anything different/better from EW with COTW?

[MudBug_AOD]

EW has always used the excuse in TH: Classic that the game engine was 8+ years old and there was so much code in the game they didn't know what most of it did. Consequently, they broke a lot of things in the game everytime they released something new. Then broke more things in an effort to fix the broken things. The result is a comical cycle that is frustrating to a lot of players. It got so bad that they broke the game for Vista and XP users and abandoned them completely.

EW released Primal. I didn't play it, it wasn't my type of game. I heard of the same problems with it that Classic suffered from. Broken features, attempted fixes breaking more than they fixed. I'm not even sure they are even supporting it anymore. I could be wrong.

Cue the entry of TH:COTW. Game was released unfinished with too many bugs to get into here. We are now on the second week of major patches. While a few are playing the game without experiencing major problems, the majority are not. Patches fix some of the known bugs while introducing new ones. Growing pains are to be expected, but some are still experiencing issues from release despite the subsequent patching. COTW should have never been allowed to be released in STEAM as a finished product.

What we can conclude from EW's history of titles and the subsequent problems therein is that EW can be called the "Gang That Can't Even Code Straight". You have no excuses regarding the shoddy release of COTW. It was your engine, the code for the game is your own, not somebody else's from 2007/2008 like in Classic. EW has been working on this for 2 years and all they've got to release is a barely playable, bug-riddled hunting game set in an amazing environment. You could have set the example for Best Hunting Game made to date, instead you tripped and fell flat on your face.

tl/dr: EW can't code, confirmed by TH:Classic, Primal, TH:COTW

[eLewis]

It's a new game, I would give it some time before being so harsh

[MudBug_AOD]

Originally posted by Ezra:

It's a new game, I would give it some time before being so harsh

You obviously haven't been dealing with EW for the past 6 years. It gets frustrating seeing same thing over and over from a company whose genre of games I love.

[Ze]

It's actually kinda funny. If you look back on all of their previous "theHunter" games all the issues they had are all carbon copies.

And then they all get to a point where we can say "Hey, it finally got to where it needed to be" .. and then a new update hits and we're right back where we started.

[Alaska Outlaw]

Worse Devo teams ever, this has been the worse game launch ive ever seen, and like Madbug said, they have had years to figure this out, no excuses for this, EW you fail once again

[Spills51]

The minority are having issues, the majority are not.
Let's not live in LaLa land and pretend it's reality.
People who have issues are the loudest (as they should be).
What do you actually think...everyone who has no issues comes to the forums to say so?

[VithiA]

Originally posted by MudBug:

Originally posted by Ezra:

It's a new game, I would give it some time before being so harsh

You obviously haven't been dealing with EW for the past 6 years. It gets frustrating seeing same thing over and over from a company whose genre of games I love.

So from your point of view EW deal ♥♥♥♥ for the past 6 years but you still play/buy their games ? I don't get it ...

[DrHappy]

Originally posted by r@m:

Originally posted by Spills51:

The minority are having issues, the majority are not.
Let's not live in LaLa land and pretend it's reality.
People who have issues are the loudest (as they should be).
What do you actually think...everyone who has no issues comes to the forums to say so?

Most people don't waste their time in forums when bad games are released, they shelve the game and wait for it to be improved, it's the ones that care that are the most vocal, they make the difference.

+100 and thumbs up!

[Avolie]

As I didn't play the first thehunter game I didn't experience any of the drama you described. But I'm over 20 hours into the new game and I think it is amazing. I never had a single crash (nor did my husband or my friend who are also playing the game), I had one kind of annoying bug (not a big deal though) and a few very minor glitches. That is actually VERY reasonable for a newly released game. In fact I'm amazed how well it performs and I really can't understand the bad reviews. Also just a few weeks after launch the developer already released 2 mayor patches, which is great and not the standard.
And as an experienced gamer I have seen a lot.

I get it, you are frustrated. But stop trying to ruin the game for us who are actually enjoying it - to the point where people even get criticised for releasing gameplay videos (another thread). That is just ridiculous.

[christörhead]

On one side, i have to agree, that there is still work to do, with the bugs.
And yes, it remembered me on old TheHunter times. I played it from 1/2013.
I just thought today, how funny it is, that they start with a new construction site, fixing and fixing bugs. It remembered me on the old bugsection, where they sometimes fixed a bug, that was a year old. But somehow sympatic, that they stay true to themself.;) Somehow i like it, that they are no 100% perfect and clean working machines. They all are human, and they want to create a great game for us. A game that was not there before, in this shape.

With that i come to the other side.
The side with over 60 hours fun i had already.
I already love the game ! :) And i thank them, that they made this great game.

And i see the effort, they put in fixing things in the first 2 weeks.
And if we are honest, i have seen really good fixes.
Had no crash, or freeze for long time now, and i was surprised that they fixed the HUD for 21:9 users so fast, already with the first patch.
Now i play the game in ultrawide on my gaming PC in 3440x1440, and on my notebook in 2560x1440 16:9, without gamebreaking problems, but with much fun ! :)

It was not long ago, that i was chatting with a friend, about the prices inGame, and that i cant afford all those callers and not the Model 86, which price was 30k at this point(caller 10K each).
I had 28k inGame money, and logged out, cause i couldn't buy me the Model 86 for 30k.
I thought next day i have enough money for it.

Next day i logged in, and the patch came.
To my surprise(positive) the Model 86 now cost 24k, not 30k anymore, and the callers only 6k, not 10k anymore.
So i save thousands of inGame money for the rifle and callers, which i can put into more ammo.

Yes, the price of ammo was raised a bit, but no problem for me, cause i saved thousands for the rest which is cheaper now.

And what do i read in the forum ?
Only bad things about the higher price of the ammo.


I only think: Maybe we should sometimes look at the good things too. :)

[MudBug_AOD]

Originally posted by r@m:

Originally posted by Spills51:

The minority are having issues, the majority are not.
Let's not live in LaLa land and pretend it's reality.
People who have issues are the loudest (as they should be).
What do you actually think...everyone who has no issues comes to the forums to say so?

Most people don't waste their time in forums when bad games are released, they shelve the game and wait for it to be improved, it's the ones that care that are the most vocal, they make the difference.

THIS^^

I wanted to believe. I wanted my supporting them/theHunter since Beta in 2008, which was before their time. I love TH: Classic and am majorly disappointed at the route it is going. When I say I love the genre, I have spent over $1500 over the past 8 years on theHunter for accounts for my kids and myself. It was worth every penny, but trends show their work getting sloppier and sloppier.

Thought the COTW release would be different, it's not. Maybe it will turn out ok. I hope it does, not holding my breath.

Originally posted by Avolie:

As I didn't play the first thehunter game I didn't experience any of the drama you described. But I'm over 20 hours into the new game and I think it is amazing. I never had a single crash (nor did my husband or my friend who are also playing the game), I had one kind of annoying bug (not a big deal though) and a few very minor glitches. That is actually VERY reasonable for a newly released game. In fact I'm amazed how well it performs and I really can't understand the bad reviews. Also just a few weeks after launch the developer already released 2 mayor patches, which is great and not the standard.
And as an experienced gamer I have seen a lot.

I get it, you are frustrated. But stop trying to ruin the game for us who are actually enjoying it - to the point where people even get criticised for releasing gameplay videos (another thread). That is just ridiculous.

How is voicing my opinion ruining the game for you?

I and many others have a long and increasingly frustrating history with this developer. They promised COTW would be groundbreaking. Other than the new game engine and it's amazing environment, it is SSDD as far as gamebreaking bugs.

Glad it is working for you. My problem is they addressed the bug issues and their fixes always introduce more, worse bugs. I devoutly hope it continues working for you. I hope it gets better for everybody.

[Tullruss]

Well I for one am pretty dissapointed in the release, not suprised in fact expected this but hoped I was wrong. Those of us who spent any amount of time playing classic are quite familar with EW and their patches. after 8 years and the original game still has bugs, really you would think after that long it would run almost perfect but as was said before their patches break more than they fix
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I have seen in the past week the "loyal hunters" the youtubers and streamers are going away from COTW content back to classic or not putting content out as frequently as a week ago. with this development your "base" gamers are upset though because they have so much invested in EW they will not say it, (this is my opinion only) the sad thing is this game has huge potential but imo i doubt it will be realized based on the 8 year track record of EW and fixing their game, with all this said i still load it up and try to figure a way around the bugs to play but sadly get frustrated and shut it down.

This will be another one of those games you load up every now and then to see if you can play it then after a few minutes it buggs and on the shelf once more, as for the DLC's good luck with that if the base game is a mess who in their right mind will buy a DLC.

[djinnxy]

Some of the most popular games of all times had bugs. Skyrim, the Witcher 3, Wow, and the list goes on. Do I agree that there could be a little better QC? Sure. Why not? What my main point is though is don't panic. Did you not see the list of issues repaired in several patches already? These guys are working hard to make your experience a good one. I can assure you one programmer didn't do that like someone mentioned above. I can also assure by comparison to other devs and modders I've spoken with about game issues that they have a high degree of skill.

Really there is just a lot of negativism all around. It's a great game. If for whatever reason you can't play because of your software or hardware, work the issue out or report and wait for a fix. There are plenty of people that enjoy the game that will try to help you with issues here in the forums all with different skills and approaches to problem solving.

[MonacoSteve]

The only thing I can see confirmed by this thread is that there are people (well known, actually, also from other forums) who are always very easily frustrated by everything (and obviously also have the time to tell others explicitely about it), and others who have more stable nerves. Yes, this new game has also quite some bugs, but it can be played and actually also enjoyed, unless you expect a perfect world. Whether the concept of CotW in general may hold on the long run within the tH family, and how it affects the other titles,is another question, but if I look around what else I get for my 30 bucks on the game market, this investion here was probably one of the betters :-).

[djinnxy]

Originally posted by MonacoSteve:

The only thing I can see confirmed by this thread is that there are people (well known, actually, also from other forums) who are always very easily frustrated by everything (and obviously also have the time to tell others explicitely about it), and others who have more stable nerves. Yes, this new game has also quite some bugs, but it can be played and actually also enjoyed, unless you expect a perfect world. Whether the concept of CotW in general may hold on the long run within the tH family, and how it affects the other titles,is another question, but if I look around what else I get for my 30 bucks on the game market, this investion here was probably one of the betters :-).

Gahhh!! Don't say "perfect world," king of the microtransaction in gaming. LOL

[Spills51]

Originally posted by r@m:

Originally posted by Spills51:

The minority are having issues, the majority are not.
Let's not live in LaLa land and pretend it's reality.
People who have issues are the loudest (as they should be).
What do you actually think...everyone who has no issues comes to the forums to say so?

Most people don't waste their time in forums when bad games are released, they shelve the game and wait for it to be improved, it's the ones that care that are the most vocal, they make the difference.

Your deluded. In fact they do the opposite in spades. They whine till no end like above. Take any game and look at the forums...filled with negative over anything else.

I understand that if you say it it must make it seem true. It doesnt and its also obvious. Im not going to reply to another cause it would be a waste.
I don't argue when facts are involved.
It's human nature to complain.
Lets not pretend it's not or that 'You" are any different.

Oh and one more thing...HAVE A GREAT DAY