.270 Underperforms

[Isha]

I saved up for 10 hours of gameplay so I could buy the .270 Warden only to find out it has less penetration than the .243 with Polymer tip bullets. From what I've read that isn't right. The .270 is a necked-down .30-06 and has over 3000 fps muzzle velocity with a 130 grain bullet. It's renowned for its excellent penetration - but not in theHunter CotW apparently.

[Markus Kruber]

Should it penetrate more than this?

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=867975214

I've never hunt in real life but I've been in the militairy for 8 years and only got experience with these 2 guns, the Dimaco C7 and AR-15 and the penetration looks fine to me

[Isha]

According to what I've read, a broadside shot like that should almost exit. It would definitely penetrate both lungs. Try a frontal shot where there's a bit of meat and you won't hit any vital at all.

[Markus Kruber]

Doesn't the bullet goes his own way and in any direction once it hits the body? Because that's what happens with the guns I mentioned

[Ruthless]

Originally posted by Anthroban:

I saved up for 10 hours of gameplay so I could buy the .270 Warden only to find out it has less penetration than the .243 with Polymer tip bullets. From what I've read that isn't right. The .270 is a necked-down .30-06 and has over 3000 fps muzzle velocity with a 130 grain bullet. It's renowned for its excellent penetration - but not in theHunter CotW apparently.

As Jack O’Connor the champion of the .270 said...You can kill almost any game animal in North America with a .270 and the right bullet. I shoot a .270WSM with a 140gn Nosler Partition and love it. In real life a .270 at 300 yards would pass through a Roe Deer or Fallow Deer like a hot knife through butter, bone and all.

[Ruthless]

Originally posted by Anthroban:

According to what I've read, a broadside shot like that should almost exit. It would definitely penetrate both lungs. Try a frontal shot where there's a bit of meat and you won't hit any vital at all.

Taking a "Texas Heart Shot" at 100 yards on a Red deer would almost, if not completely, get you a full pass through. Not endorsing any of you hunters taking a Texas Heart Shot on any game animals, just making a point about the penetration ability of the .270 with the right type and weight bullet on an animal of that size.

[ltfork]

As others have said the penetration isn't even close to realistic. I personally hunt with a .270, 130gr Rem Core-Lokt and with good shot placement it's pretty much always a passthrough on whitetails, even if you hit bone.

[SHADOW]

The penetration isnt what counts in this game its the expansion im useing the 270 warden with poly tips if you get a good shoulder shot there down one shot PLUS!!!! do bother buying the warden cause you have to buy the 270 huntsman to finish the coyote quests so you end up buy 2 of the same good 20k lost

[b101uk]

the .270WSM is to the .270 Win what the .270 Wby Mag is to the .270WSM

[O]

Don't use polymer tips the .270 is 10000x better than the .243 i get instant kill 90% of the time if they're broadshot

[Smell My-Neck]

have you ever try neck shots? one hit one kill

[jungle.james]

Originally posted by RunInUnderpants:

have you ever try neck shots? one hit one kill

We are discussing how a Winchester .270 fails to exit a broadside of a medium sized animal here not blowing cervical spines out.

[YaBoy]

I dropped two bucks from 300-320 meters away. Both Lungs shots, screenshot f12 wasnt working at the time sadly. Neither ran but they did stand for a second then dropped. I found out aiming further back in the lungs seems to do the drop. Closer to the back of the shoulders dont, and they always run for me.

[Shooter]

Originally posted by Anthroban:

I saved up for 10 hours of gameplay so I could buy the .270 Warden only to find out it has less penetration than the .243 with Polymer tip bullets. From what I've read that isn't right. The .270 is a necked-down .30-06 and has over 3000 fps muzzle velocity with a 130 grain bullet. It's renowned for its excellent penetration - but not in theHunter CotW apparently.

The hole game Underperforms.

[Zzabur]

Originally posted by NOOBZERO:

Doesn't the bullet goes his own way and in any direction once it hits the body? Because that's what happens with the guns I mentioned

From my experience (emergency surgery, trauma intensive care, anaesthesiology), the weapons you mention are using high speed rotation bullets, it's used in war weapons where you need to neutralize as fast as possible and forgive bad aiming. These bullets tend to change their direction as soon as they hit a solid surface, which is really deadly. I have seen 7.62 bullets entering a leg and exiting chest, and lot of damages between.

These bullets are very efficient, but also very dangerous because they can kill after hitting a wall, and you can't control them after that. I guess they're not allowed for hunting (in Europe, don't know about US) because while hunting, you don't want to shoot anyone else, and also you aim accurately and don't shoot loads of ammunitions on each preys.

These bullets can rotate (they almost all rotate nowadays, because it seems it's more accurate), but not so fast as war weapons, and hunters tend to use the less powerful ammo they can depending on targets (harvest integrity, and when you have exploded all the target's guts, i guess the meat is not so good to eat^^). So the bullet will remain mostly on a straight line (that's what happen with a 9mm for instance)

So, in my opinion, ammos got different purposes, accuracy and low lethality after some distance (in my country, 12ga is the most used weapon as hunting rifle, even slugs travel not so far) for safety in crowded hunting areas (however, the 12ga slugs can really be deadlier than a long range rifle, because a small tree won't stop a 12ga slug), and war ammos are made to kill, no matter the distance and no matter if 1/10 of the firepower is enough to kill your target. Also it's made to penetrate a bulletproof vest, actually, you need a very good protection to stop 7.62 ammos (car engine for instance). Who need this power to hunt, even mooses?

You'll still see some ammunitions behave weirdly, it's very difficult to predict what will happen after they hit something, but most of time, war bullets will change direction, transfer a lot of energy to the body (shock can kill even if it hits a limb) and will go very far after the target, when hunting bullets will be more accurate (don't compare M80A1 vs 12ga birdshot^^), won't travel far after the target (though they can still be deadly after few hundreds meters) and will remain on a straight trajectory.

[Isha]

I've gone back to using the .243 with polymer tips until I unlock polymer tips for the .270

It just works better.