What the hell is the bow zeroed in at?

[SavageWhiteDude]

So at what I estimate to be about 20 yards it seems to shoot spot on. Why am I hitting high at 10 yards or when shooting downhill then? Any modern compound bow should hit in pretty much the same spot from 0-20 yards. If anything a bit low at extremely close range(7 yards or less).

Arrow drop at that distance is minimal and should be completely offset by the height of the sight over the arrow. Did I just make a couple bad shots or does it really shoot high at 10 yards?

[MajorMorningWood]

well from my bow hunting experience the bow once you shoot has a random chnace to off the wild life reserve and go where ever it pleases and the was to get rid of that is the bow perk in top row i think it was until then you have to basicly face shoot what ever you see because sometimes the off point can be a bit extrem

[Actual Boomer]

anywhere below 20 yards i always aim half an inch or so low , and i've only missed 1 arrow so far.
and that was just the accuracy rng i think.

[SavageWhiteDude]

Half an inch low as in on the screen your target point is 1/2" above the sight pin?

If so then that's not modeled right unless the bow is actually sighted in for 30 yards.

[draeath]

I wouldn't be suprised if it wasn't aligned right. Notice how when drawn, the arrowhead is behind the full-capture arrow rest? Yea... doesn't work that way :P

[Fettes Bison [GER]]

Originally posted by MadaraUchiha:

the was to get rid of that is the bow perk in top row i think it was until then you have to basicly face shoot what ever you see because sometimes the off point can be a bit extrem

even after maxing that skill there is off point shooting

[Tauro]

get the zeroing active perk guys. it will open ur eyes with all weapons.

the bow is zeroed at 40m. with this activ skill u can switch between 20 40 and 60m. the 270 is zeroed at 150m, wich explains alot

[Fettes Bison [GER]]

Originally posted by Tauro:

get the zeroing active perk guys. it will open ur eyes with all weapons.

the bow is zeroed at 40m. with this activ skill u can switch between 20 40 and 60m. the 270 is zeroed at 150m, wich explains alot

thx i will get it.. need some serious lvling though after putting everything here http://imgur.com/a/mHtrz

but also the bow being zeroed at 40m standard? hard to believe..

[MudBug_AOD]

Apparently OP doesn't hunt in real life, especially with bows. Any downward angled shot, regardless of the weapon type will hit higher because of the downward angle and decreased gravity affecting the projectile.

Your 10 yard shot probably was only 7 yards factoring in the angle and decreased gravity. That's why the shot went higher than if you were on a flat shooting plane.

Aiming downhill? Aim lower to compensate for decreased distance.

[SavageWhiteDude]

Mudbug, actually I do hunt in real life and shoot archery competitively. No, from 0-20 yards you should not hit high shooting at a downward angle with a fast compound bow. Most modern compounds hit in effectively the same exact spot from 0-20 yards.

For my setup 0-7 yards I actually have to aim high(because of the angle as the sight sits higher than the arrow). From 7-20 I aim with the pin dead on the target. From 20-30 I have to gap shoot.

Why? Well because at the speeds we shoot at now days arrow drop hasn't become significant enough of a factor to affect point of impact in any meaningful way from 0-20 yards as distance traveled vs distrance dropped is minimal.

The reason a lot of people shoot high when shooting a bow at a downward angle is poor form. Instead of bending at the waist they lower their shoulder which will push the shot high. The only change for me shooting from a treestand is if I range the target and the adjusted range for the angle gives me a 5 yard shot I put the pin right on the target(not high on the target as I stated earlier) as even though arrow drop is going to be equivalent to 5 yards the arrow is traveling a far enough distance to negate the effect of my sight height over the arrow rest.

Beyond 20 yards? Yes, you aim low as the downward angle decreases arrow drop over distance traveled.

So no, inside of 20 yards I should not have to compensate at all for downward angle shots. Not unless the bows in this game are shooting REALLY slow.

[Rottenflesh142]

Originally posted by SavageWhiteDude:

Mudbug, actually I do hunt in real life and shoot archery competitively. No, from 0-20 yards you should not hit high shooting at a downward angle with a fast compound bow. Most modern compounds hit in effectively the same exact spot from 0-20 yards.

For my setup 0-7 yards I actually have to aim high(because of the angle as the sight sits higher than the arrow). From 7-20 I aim with the pin dead on the target. From 20-30 I have to gap shoot.

Why? Well because at the speeds we shoot at now days arrow drop hasn't become significant enough of a factor to affect point of impact in any meaningful way from 0-20 yards as distance traveled vs distrance dropped is minimal.

The reason a lot of people shoot high when shooting a bow at a downward angle is poor form. Instead of bending at the waist they lower their shoulder which will push the shot high. The only change for me shooting from a treestand is if I range the target and the adjusted range for the angle gives me a 5 yard shot I put the pin right on the target(not high on the target as I stated earlier) as even though arrow drop is going to be equivalent to 5 yards the arrow is traveling a far enough distance to negate the effect of my sight height over the arrow rest.

Beyond 20 yards? Yes, you aim low as the downward angle decreases arrow drop over distance traveled.

So no, inside of 20 yards I should not have to compensate at all for downward angle shots. Not unless the bows in this game are shooting REALLY slow.

Post must of got lost in the mail LOL. Nice little read there Savage I don't hunt irl. It was nice to learn something new thanks.

[OneoftheLost]

as someone who also shoots bows IRL I agree with the above. Frankly the starter bow in this game is super wonky. I mean it shoots like a Recurve irl. Compounds are much more efficient about where their arrows go. Recurve if you mess up your form, and even align your fingers to your face wrong you can send that arrow to the left a solid 2-6 inches.

Its just wierd in game. These are compound bows, the arrows really shouldn't fly like they do.

On the other hand, the super expensive bow Hawk somehtingorother, with maxed out archery skill tree... shoots how it should. Arrows fly just like compounds irl, and there isn't much variation, also the projectile in game, from the second bow, has a MUCH flatter trajectory. Its actually my favorite weapon.

My advice? Get the second bow ASAP, get the 3 pin sight and max out your archery tree if you plan on using bows, the skill tree helps ALOT. More power makes your arrows fly straighter too.

Again. First bow: Crap. Second Bow: Awesome.

[RamMack]

Originally posted by MudBug:

Apparently OP doesn't hunt in real life, especially with bows. Any downward angled shot, regardless of the weapon type will hit higher because of the downward angle and decreased gravity affecting the projectile.

Your 10 yard shot probably was only 7 yards factoring in the angle and decreased gravity. That's why the shot went higher than if you were on a flat shooting plane.

Aiming downhill? Aim lower to compensate for decreased distance.

Sorry but your calculation about distance is wrong. Think of it this way > triangle with points A,B,and C. A to B being flat ground, and A to C being uphill or downhill. The distance between A to C is greater than A to B. As A to C being the long side of the triangle. So your distance to target is greater shooting uphill or downhill.
That is why they make rangefinders with angle calculation built in.

Also, if you are shooting downhill, and you aim for the same spot as you would on flat ground, you will miss the sweet spot low, due to the angle of entry. To hit the heart shooting downhill you have to aim high.

This is how it works in real life, I don't know how it is coded in game.

[Lightshifty]

The different pins have different zeroing values, and I'm pretty sure the different bows have different zeroing as well which makes it complicated with bow+pin combinations. I could be wrong, it would be easy to prove or disprove but I don't have the zeroing rifle perk (I heard that it was buggy, is it fixed now though?)

[Mondyrocks]

Someone posted a video on youtube and the centre point was zeroed in at 30 metres.
Can't remember who it was or the link, sorry :)