ELO in all matches is infuriatingly frustrating

[Snobby Hobo]

Seeing the game doesn't employ any form of non ELO matches means that someone who barely ever played chess - like myself, will get no room to improve.

Please add a training or casual mode which allows one to actually just practise, rather than lose all his rank learning.

[DangerMoth]

rank doesnt matter, if you arent good, then you will have a low elo. introducing a mode where they hide elo to protect your ego just divides the communnity

[Snobby Hobo]

Originally posted by Sir Digby Chicken Caeser:

rank doesnt matter, if you arent good, then you will have a low elo. introducing a mode where they hide elo to protect your ego just divides the communnity

They could have at least made a hotseat without ELO or training against bots with no ELO.

[galneon]

I've only played two matches against it (my first two matches in ~15 years), but the lowest ELO AI would take an conscious act of self-sabotage to lose against in my opinion. In my last game, it made five completely pointless unforced sacrifices of non-pawns. Most total newbs who at least understand how all the pieces move can throw away several pieces and still eek out a draw at worst. If you play the weakest AI several times until it's trivial before moving up to the next AI, you should be competitive at that level and not lose your rating.

But again, who cares about ELO here? It means nothing. This is just a pretty, casual chess game likely to be entirely ignored by people with serious ELOs IRL. This isn't the right platform for intellectual peen-sizing.

[Snobby Hobo]

Originally posted by galneon:

I've only played two matches against it (my first two matches in ~15 years), but the lowest ELO AI would take an conscious act of self-sabotage to lose against in my opinion. In my last game, it made five completely pointless unforced sacrifices of non-pawns. Most total newbs who at least understand how all the pieces move can throw away several pieces and still eek out a draw at worst. If you play the weakest AI several times until it's trivial before moving up to the next AI, you should be competitive at that level and not lose your rating.

But again, who cares about ELO here? It means nothing. This is just a pretty, casual chess game likely to be entirely ignored by people with serious ELOs IRL. This isn't the right platform for intellectual peen-sizing.

Isn't the point. I don't play against the easiest AI modes(only initially to test what algoritms were being used) as I don't enjoy to.

Low elo means you'll be having a harder timer finding matches and I'm not in for that. I want to play against people of my own skill, and I currently have no means of just messing about trying funny stuff without ruining my mmr.

Also it's not about having the biggest e-peen, but it's still satisfying to see your elo increase for playing well. There's a reason it's prominently displayed.

[DarkStarClassic]

Chess programs on steam make all same mistake they should do some research how chess sites doing it then they also sell more copies.

Now again a new chess program fun for few hours dies because nobody online plays it plus niveau on steam is very low also.

A leader board where you can choose in lobby a time you want to play like blitz or rapid and then the program put you against opponents around your rating. People love leaderboards seeing there ELO increase.

If you want to learn chess you start with learn board have 64squares 32 pieces then start with pawn learn what it all can do and learn simple endgame play so you get familiar with the movement of pieces learn very simple combinations starting with end game with only pawn against king or how bishop moves or knight ect.

Thats only way to learn chess, not with full 32 pieces start opening thats wrong way.

[Snobby Hobo]

Originally posted by DarkStarClassic:

Chess programs on steam make all same mistake they should do some research how chess sites doing it then they also sell more copies.

Now again a new chess program fun for few hours dies because nobody online plays it plus niveau on steam is very low also.

A leader board where you can choose in lobby a time you want to play like blitz or rapid and then the program put you against opponents around your rating. People love leaderboards seeing there ELO increase.

If you want to learn chess you start with learn board have 64squares 32 pieces then start with pawn learn what it all can do and learn simple endgame play so you get familiar with the movement of pieces learn very simple combinations starting with end game with only pawn against king or how bishop moves or knight ect.

Thats only way to learn chess, not with full 32 pieces start opening thats wrong way.

I don't agree with a single word you said. You realize Chess ultra is more like selling a chessboard that happens to come with a manual? A chessboard shouldn't be obliged to teach the one purchasing chess step by step.

Chess ultra is particularly made to have you play Chess, the fact that it also teaches you how to is a nice addition(and it does a really good job at it imo)

[Jumanji Monkey]

It is not true. Chess Ultra allows you to play against different AIs with different ELO ratings. You should first play against some lowly rated AIs to gain ELO. As you progress to play against higher rating AIs, you may win some and lose some games. But if you play more, your rating will keep going up, allowing your to challenge some highly rated AIs. BTW, the ELO rating of the AIs that you can play against will actually adjust according to your current rating, so you can just choose AIs with slightly lower or slightly high rating in order to gain ELO. If you want to excel in chess, you can't just play against AIs, you need to "study" chess using some analyzing engines and some chess books. Chess Ultra is for you to practice the theory that you have learned and to see your standing.

[Snobby Hobo]

Originally posted by Jumanji Monkey:

It is not true. Chess Ultra allows you to play against different AIs with different ELO ratings. You should first play against some lowly rated AIs to gain ELO. As you progress to play against higher rating AIs, you may win some and lose some games. But if you play more, your rating will keep going up, allowing your to challenge some highly rated AIs. BTW, the ELO rating of the AIs that you can play against will actually adjust according to your current rating, so you can just choose AIs with slightly lower or slightly high rating in order to gain ELO. If you want to excel in chess, you can't just play against AIs, you need to "study" chess using some analyzing engines and some chess books. Chess Ultra is for you to practice the theory that you have learned and to see your standing.

Thanks for bumping a 6 years old thread.