What did you actually ENJOY in JC4?

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Let's talk specifics: what did you LIKE or ENJOY in JC4?

For me:
1. The driving. I felt the driving was better than JC3, and way better than JC2 (which had such bad driving it was actually kind of hilarious).

2. Explosions. I love the colors in the explosions. Yes, I've seen the comparison videos with JC3, and I understand why some would like JC3's better (more detail, more debris), but I just like the bright, fiery color of the explosions in JC4.

3. Voice Acting. Much as I loved JC3 (for the most part) the cartoonish, stereotyped voices used to grate on my nerves: "Heya, Rico! It'sa me, Mario!"

4. grapple mods. Gotta say, this is my favorite. There's so much you can do with these things, just setting it different ways, different strengths, and different configurations.

5. destructible materials respawn. This is a half-and-half. I wish they wouldn't respawn so quickly. Let it stayed destroyed a bit longer. But I like knowing that when the game is finished, I can still run around the map and blow stuff up.

6. challenges are easier. Again, this is a half-and-half. Challenges (drive this car through that ONE ring) are too easy, and I miss the JC3s races, I did feel that JC3s challenges were too demanding. So while I'm glad they eased it up, I think I'd kinda like to CHOOSE a difficulty level when I start a challenge, to give more or less time, or increase or decrease the pass requirement.

7. more KINDS of enemies. JC2 and JC3 basically had the standard soldier, the sniper, the rocketlaunching guy, and the heavy guys with miniguns. Here, they've got more kinds. I like the guys who can become invisible.

8. I like the variety of weapons. While I miss handguns and dual wielding, and the ability to carry more than two weapons, I feel JC4 has a lot more different kinds of guns.

[MAD_M52]

"The refund"... but seriously, I cant refund since I bought from gmg.

[Nite69]

ya forgot to mention about the J and S missions

[Darkwave Dahlia]

Originally posted by SNEAKYSTEAK:

"The refund"... but seriously, I cant refund since I bought from gmg.

That's what you get for being cheap. :^)

For me? Shooting was improved. Gun sounds. Gunplay in general. Sure, it's not Euphoria Physics Engine, but better than JC3.

[Metal Save The World]

2 and 9

9. is a like animals ~

[siftycat]

Uninstalling it.

[dimi]

Originally posted by ابنة الشيطان:

Euphoria Physics Engine

that thing should be in every game, it's great stuff

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Originally posted by ابنة الشيطان:

For me? Shooting was improved. Gun sounds. Gunplay in general. Sure, it's not Euphoria Physics Engine, but better than JC3.

Totally agree. I like the gun sounds, and the aim is really good. I feel like range is better than JC3. The gun sounds are heavier and I like that.

[MAD_M52]

Originally posted by ابنة الشيطان:

Originally posted by SNEAKYSTEAK:

"The refund"... but seriously, I cant refund since I bought from gmg.

That's what you get for being cheap. :^)

For me? Shooting was improved. Gun sounds. Gunplay in general. Sure, it's not Euphoria Physics Engine, but better than JC3.

I paid 59.96 I dont think thats cheap, I just buy games from there usually due to their support and point system.

[reptiliane]

To me the driving is worse in this one than in JC3. I don't know if you play with a controller but with a keyboard it feels horrible.

[MAD_M52]

Originally posted by reptiliane:

To me the driving is worse in this one than in JC3. I don't know if you play with a controller but with a keyboard it feels horrible.

its worse witht ht econtroller as well, though this isnt due to teh handling in game, tis actually because of the camera and the way they position it and a mix of the FOV adn ridgid attatchment to the car body.

If they gave a ♥♥♥♥ or looked at literally any car game, or any game at all theyd understand but I assume people who have never seen a video game with cars work at avalanche.

[MAD_M52]

Originally posted by Streven:

Originally posted by SNEAKYSTEAK:

its worse witht ht econtroller as well, though this isnt due to teh handling in game, tis actually because of the camera and the way they position it and a mix of the FOV adn ridgid attatchment to the car body.

If they gave a ♥♥♥♥ or looked at literally any car game, or any game at all theyd understand but I assume people who have never seen a video game with cars work at avalanche.

I disagree with the complaint against cameras. I think the cameras work just fine.

The handling is weird in this game. The cars feel too light and floaty. It's much easier to drive the cars, especially the fast ones, but less satisfying. Feels like an inferior physics simulation and more an arcade racing title.

Then youre objectivley wrong. Ofcurse the handling is bad but had they fixed the camera it would be significantly less prevelant and problematic.

I play a lot of racing sims in 1st person, plenty of arcadey racing games, and a lot of open world games. None of them have the porblems this game has, the weird camera angles, the strange lens lenght/fov are obvious especially with larger vehicles like planes, and cranes and trucks.
In ground vehicles the camera is too low and follows the car poorly and doesnt let you see ahead to where you are going like it should (in real life you look ahead to where you want to go and not at the hood of teh car) In planes the camera is so long (lens lenth ) and the fov is so small that theperspective in game is completely lost making the game ISOMETRIC. This is also problematic sinc eth etwo plane vies are positionned to look DOWN at the plane instead of behind it so you can see ahead, this makes turning, rolling and any action other that flying in a straight line nauseating.

The same isometric perspective is a problem with large ground vehicles and boats.

The camera is actually SNAPPED to teh chassis while also being loose in the wrong way. Its difficult to put into words without the game in front of me to explain it in a video/face to face.

This means if theres any bump in the road the camera moves a ton, because its pulled so far back with a narrow fov a tiny movment on the car equals a MASSIVE movement in the game world and the scenery. Which is disturbingly bad and causes motion sickness.

This is all ON TOP of poor handling charecteristics,

I dont get motions sick in any games, VR or otherwise, I dont get it when driving or being driven. ONLY in this game.

[MAD_M52]

Originally posted by Streven:

I find taking the default camera and just moving the camera up just a little so you can see ahead of the car a little better works just fine. I have played all kinds of racing sims and I just don't have the same issues with the camera that you do. These things are subjective.

I agree the handling characteristics are a bit crap. They're simply functional but not a satisfying driving experience if you like driving games.

They are barely functional.

JC4 devs avalanche should have taken a look at gtav for their camera options and teh mechanics of how they work. This would have given them a baseline to reach for each vehicle type.

[Thenetor47[FR]]

i like the rebels/resistance improvement, in this one they're helping us better than the 2nd and the 3rd, they're more active than ever, even sending reinforcement to help us escape/eliminate the black hands ^^

[daniel.tiger]

laughing at how streamlined it has become

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I play keyboard and mouse. I love the driving.

While driving in JC3 was better than JC2, I felt the cars slid around too much. Here, I can weave in and out of traffic, take tight turns, etc. without spinning around half the time.

Granted, I don't play a lot of driving games. I grew up on arcades, so I've always like kinda arcade-y driving. However, I'm 47, and have been playing games since the days of pong. In that time, I've played my share of driving games.

I like the driving in JC4.