Just Cause 4

Just Cause 4

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Fijut 2018 年 12 月 4 日 下午 2:36
JC3 or JC4?
Hello. I played the first two games in the series quite a long time ago, found them quite fun.

I only just heard that JC4 is out, and for some reason I missed JC3.

However looking at threads, reviews, it seems like JC4 is a step backwards in many ways from the third game. Progression sounds stupid and counterintiuitive, day 1 DLC, and it seems the game simply looks terrible - even the store page screenshots for JC3 look better than JC4 (and it's also amusing how the developers paid exactly the same people to write good reviews as they did for the third game too)

So my question is should I just go and buy JC3? as not only is it apparently a better game anyway, it's muuch cheaper....
最後修改者:Fijut; 2018 年 12 月 4 日 下午 2:37
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Crackatau 2019 年 11 月 23 日 下午 12:59 
Really loved JC2. JC3 was pretty good too. But JC4.....well, thats another story :P
最後修改者:Crackatau; 2019 年 11 月 23 日 下午 4:22
Jim 2019 年 11 月 24 日 上午 7:32 
for me, there are so many side missions in 4 that I can't keep the main story straight, or I just forget about it.
Captian_Nemo 2019 年 11 月 24 日 下午 4:02 
JC3 is great, JC4 is not. JC4 is not even running for some people.
Labamba 2019 年 11 月 25 日 下午 2:28 
I'd say go for JC4 if you don't mind with the uninspired mission design. I've spent 100 hours on JC3 and 50 hours on JC4 with all the DLCs on both, all I can say is that both shares their own charm and shortage. JC3 is a better game, JC4 is a better sandbox.

JC3 is the more typical AAA game, with polished and well thought mechanic. The premise is simple with the standard formula but it gets the job done. The sense of control on Rico feels a lot more responsive and intuitive. For instance you can recover to wingsuit right after you collide with something in the air, faster command respond on switching between weapon, retract grapple, throwing grenade. The bavarium (jet) wingsuit offers extensive control with a lot of variation such as repel off wall, take off from land and water, flipping in the air to avoid missile, etc. Oh and also, you can backflip your way off vehicle roof. JC3 also put attention to many little details.
The way of how physic work in this game is quite reliable to use albeit a little crazy. Even though the main premise of JC is chaos, but JC3 offers soothing experience through its soundtrack, beautiful scenery, ambient sound, and fun atmosphere to the NPCs.
What I adore more is the simplicity and yet clear sign in terms of world design such as how a game should be. Blue is Ally, Red is enemy. You need to blow red stuffs. If you see church high up on hill, you'll find a place to advance in time. If you see gas station, you can get some beacon in there.
But as I say, just like most typical AAA games, it shares the same problem. The map is huge and beautiful, the pasture, town and village feel so atmospheric, fantastic and yet look all the same. You'll feel the same vibe in almost every area of the map. Still though, one hell of a beautiful setting. The character progression design, now this is something that disgusts me personally. I'm an absolute no guy the things like optional challenges such as racing, time trial, go inside the ring, do this do that kind of stuff. And it forces you to do these challenges in order to gain character upgrades. Luckily there are plenty of mods that covers this exact problem.

JC4 is more like an experimental indie game with ambitious vision, established lore and set of mechanic. It offers improvement for most part (if we can put aside that junky interface). The map is the best in the series. It's like JC2, so many variety, beautiful set pieces of scenery. It contains 4 main biomes, each with its own characteristic and map design. Each biome consists of its own unique weather and character. For instance the rainforest area bound to heavy rainstorm and tropical village, grassland bound to rural villages, farm, barn and tornado. The map also contains big cities, airport and a ton of variety to it. There are many cool over the top action on mission design as well.
In terms of mechanic, it has plenty of new mechanics. The game now offers weather mechanic, customized booster-retract-balloon, wind physic, and secondary mode for weapon. Rico can traverse more seamless than the previous games. He can climb obstacle now, automatically reach building top (while holding forward button) after grappling to an edge of building, parachute feels better to control, melee can be used to repel grenade, etc. The challenges are now mostly not mandatory to finish. Some challenges are necessary to upgrade grapple but not really hard to do and there's a clear incentive to it as it is part of major side mission.
But as some people complained, they removed plenty of mechanics from the predecessors. Some are little but a bit irritating such as destructible concrete bridges, some little cool ability such as backflip from car and wingsuit recovery, ability to roll and so on. But some are the defining mechanic, and they're really playing with fire by doing this. They removed dual pistols, placeable C4, throwing grenade, and liberation system. Aside from mechanic removal, the mission design mostly sucks. It takes one of the most hated mission design for most of the mission. Yes you're right, that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ escort mission. Aside from that, the physic is more often than not buggy, causing it to be less reliable for experimenting.
最後修改者:Labamba; 2019 年 11 月 25 日 下午 2:34
similarly 2019 年 11 月 25 日 下午 2:47 
I'll agree with you about the JC4 map. There's an area of caverns that was brilliantly done. I actually parachuted in, and wingsuited and paraglided down there.
MAX WLF 2019 年 11 月 25 日 下午 11:33 
JC4 is for console players
JC3 is for High-end PC gamers
ARmodder 2019 年 11 月 29 日 下午 7:47 
JC3 is better overall, JC4 adds some interesting gameplay elements; controllable tornado's other weather phenomenon, a few new features, it's easier than JC3 (JC3 has some very challenging missions early on to progress the main story) and I like the frontline territory takeover idea, where you actually have your guys and the bad guys fighting each other throughout the area, though I think they could have used the JC3 liberation method, as the frontlines are more just for immersion to give the feel of it being a war.

JC4 also got rid of pistols and dual wield as well as having more than two weapons, which sucks. I play this for some of the new features but will be playing JC3 for all the things that made the series great.
KatanaDV20 2019 年 11 月 29 日 下午 10:33 
JC3 hands down. Its like they made a list of everything that made JC3 fun and removed it from JC4. Not ALL of JC4 is bad, the huge map, biomes (specially rainforest), weather effects are fun.

I did a post on it and here are my issues with 4:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/517630/discussions/0/1740008638965209482/
genu 2019 年 11 月 30 日 上午 5:47 
Stay at JC2 if you don't wanna ruin your JC memories. if you still want a newer JC grab v3

v3 is fairly nice but stopped me from further JC buyings.
最後修改者:genu; 2019 年 11 月 30 日 上午 5:49
Jim 2019 年 11 月 30 日 上午 6:22 
引用自 ARmodder
JC3 is better overall, JC4 adds some interesting gameplay elements; controllable tornado's other weather phenomenon, a few new features, it's easier than JC3 (JC3 has some very challenging missions early on to progress the main story) and I like the frontline territory takeover idea, where you actually have your guys and the bad guys fighting each other throughout the area, though I think they could have used the JC3 liberation method, as the frontlines are more just for immersion to give the feel of it being a war.

JC4 also got rid of pistols and dual wield as well as having more than two weapons, which sucks. I play this for some of the new features but will be playing JC3 for all the things that made the series great.
Definitely miss the liberation missions - I wish there was a way to 'win' the frontline battles in 4 - if you could defeat all the baddies and the good guys would cheer you on instead of having an infinite supply of badguys to attack.
Also, didn't 3 lose the dual wield guns as well?
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Jim 2019 年 11 月 30 日 上午 6:54 
引用自 Krasavchik
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Good point.
Crackatau 2019 年 11 月 30 日 下午 1:02 
引用自 Jim
引用自 Krasavchik
вавы
Good point.

lol! XD
FlangEG 2019 年 12 月 3 日 上午 5:03 
If you like the Far Cry series, especially FC4, get JC3. Actually I find JC3 to JC4 comparison the same way I see FC4 to FC5, rich to crap.
最後修改者:FlangEG; 2019 年 12 月 3 日 上午 5:04
John Coffey 2019 年 12 月 3 日 下午 1:30 
Well I never got to finish just cause 3 but when i was playing it it was a lot of fun but just cause 4 is fun to with a lot of new stuff.
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