JC3 or JC4?

[Fijut]

Hello. I played the first two games in the series quite a long time ago, found them quite fun.

I only just heard that JC4 is out, and for some reason I missed JC3.

However looking at threads, reviews, it seems like JC4 is a step backwards in many ways from the third game. Progression sounds stupid and counterintiuitive, day 1 DLC, and it seems the game simply looks terrible - even the store page screenshots for JC3 look better than JC4 (and it's also amusing how the developers paid exactly the same people to write good reviews as they did for the third game too)

So my question is should I just go and buy JC3? as not only is it apparently a better game anyway, it's muuch cheaper....

[MancSoulja]

JC4 is fine, but considering it's a direct sequel to JC3, I would always advise playing 3 first anyway.

[Fijut]

I hear progression in bases is now not linked at all to blowing them up - isn't that the entire reason most people play these games anyway?

[GD2X]

Originally posted by Fijut:

I hear progression in bases is now not linked at all to blowing them up - isn't that the entire reason most people play these games anyway?

So how do you take over bases now?

[Fijut]

Originally posted by ShennyG:

Originally posted by Fijut:

I hear progression in bases is now not linked at all to blowing them up - isn't that the entire reason most people play these games anyway?

So how do you take over bases now?

not sure, from the reviews it seems you have to fly or drive through rings or something, side quests....

[MancSoulja]

Originally posted by Fijut:

I hear progression in bases is now not linked at all to blowing them up - isn't that the entire reason most people play these games anyway?

No wanted another Just Cause 3, if it would of been the same, the same clowns would of said 'OMG THIS IS JUST JUST CAUSE 3.1, WHY ARE YOU SELLING ME DLC' blah blah blah.

It's good that it's different.

[NORgrunt]

Get Just Cause 3. None of the other games have suffered from so much consolities as this one, navigating menues is so bad im hammering my keyboard just to get the map up. Everything is simplified to an extent its not fun anymore.

[Fijut]

Originally posted by MancSoulja:

Originally posted by Fijut:

I hear progression in bases is now not linked at all to blowing them up - isn't that the entire reason most people play these games anyway?

No wanted anthoer Just Cause 3, if it would of been the same, the same clowns would of said 'OMG THIS IS JUST JUST CAUSE 3.1, WHY ARE YOU SELLING ME DLC' blah blah blah.

It's good that it's different.

while you might have a point... it's not going to make me spend £45 on a game that has had it's defining mechanic... removed....

[Dr. Strangelove]

Originally posted by ShennyG:

Originally posted by Fijut:

I hear progression in bases is now not linked at all to blowing them up - isn't that the entire reason most people play these games anyway?

So how do you take over bases now?

You do side quests and challenges to build your chaos, which gives you a squad once the meter reaches a certain point. Once you have enough squads you then go into the main map and liberate whole provinces which takes over all the bases within that region.

Trust me, it makes for some pretty boring gameplay, JC3 is stellar in comparison

[MancSoulja]

Originally posted by ShennyG:

Originally posted by Fijut:

I hear progression in bases is now not linked at all to blowing them up - isn't that the entire reason most people play these games anyway?

So how do you take over bases now?

You don't, by blowing up choas objects you can attract more rebels to your army, when you have enough rebels, you can use them to attack enemy areas, taking them form yourself. The bases exist, but they're used as the backdrop for missions rather than mindless explosions.

There lots more missions in JC4.

[Fijut]

Originally posted by MancSoulja:

Originally posted by ShennyG:

So how do you take over bases now?

You don't, by blowing up choas objects you can attract more rebels to your army, when you have enough rebels, you can use them to attack enemy areas, taking them form yourself. The bases exist, but they're used as the backdrop for mission rather than mindless explosions.

There lots more missions in JC4.

When you word it this way, it makes it sound less like a big change - rather they've simply added an extra step to the process... for no reason other than to say it's different.

and taking the simple pleasure directly from blowing up a base to capturing it... really makes it sound less fun

[Zeph Grey]

The challenges were my lease favorite element from JC3, but you could mostly just ignore them. (I only did the ones to upgrade my grapling hook. Everything else seemed annoying) The fact that they've become the core mechanic kills any interest in this game for me. If I can't take over a village by bombing the hell out of it, I'm not interested.

[SuperSocks7]

Just cause 4 is inferior in fun, explosions, graphics, gameplay and story.
while it has a bigger map and a few more mechanics, just cause 3 XL edition will give you everything you need and has hours of fun

[prizim]

i have over 200 hours in jc4. awesome game. dont listen to the naysayers.

[similarly]

JC3 is by far superior to JC4. JC4 really lost something.

In JC3 you go to a town, destroy all chaos objects, attack the police station, raise the flag and the resistance moves into the town and occupies it. When all the towns and bases are conquered, the territory belongs to you, and you move to the next territory.

In JC4, you blow up chaos objects to fill an invisible meter. When the meter is full, you are paid in a currency called "soldiers". No actual soldiers join you. It's simply a number. You then go to the map and look at territories, which have prices listed in "soldiers". You then spend your "soldiers" to buy areas of the map.

In JC4, the main emphasis of the game is perform stunts using balloons and rockets attached to vehicles and various objects, and then make funny youtube videos showing off how funny and silly JC4 is, because the devs apparently can't understand that while youtubers enjoyed making videos of themselves tethering objects in funny ways in JC3, what makes for a funny youtube video does not necessarily make for an enjoyable gaming experience.

Avalanche severely dropped the ball with this one, and the numbers show.

JC4 was one of the most disastrous gaming launches in history, and the devs still seem not to understand why it was a complete and utter failure.

[Jim]

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