Claiming land in Foxhole

[Stormfire962]

Today I was building in a tiny area on the map for my very small group of friends so we can have a staging area for what we need at the frontlines. Everything was going well and I managed to build a few vehicle and a tiny bunker with a few fences. When out of no where I told by another who was in a clan that I cannot build there because they have reserved entire huge area for a scoop base that wasn't even constructed yet. I this player I am in a very tiny area and I saw no sign saying that and he had follow him some distance away from where I was to a tiny sign off the road out of sight marking the claim.

Well I told him I am not moving because I already build a lot and my space is tiny. Which apparently he didn't like because he came back with 2 others in his clan trying to get me to move because they had an agreement with another clan to build there. I said to all 3 of them there aren't any game rules about reserving land and that it's the clans that are ruining this game for other players especially when they are creating false rules. It's also these bad clans that are driving players away from this game.

[salty red]

Originally posted by The Devils Own:

Came back after a year giving a break just to see if things have gotten better, literally just deleted again because the toxicity of the clans has gotten even worst since then. I hope all who read this thinking about buying this game will avoid doing so, save your money.

what happened if i can ask?

[Stormfire962]

Originally posted by salty red:

Originally posted by The Devils Own:

Came back after a year giving a break just to see if things have gotten better, literally just deleted again because the toxicity of the clans has gotten even worst since then. I hope all who read this thinking about buying this game will avoid doing so, save your money.

what happened if i can ask?

He more then likely will not answer you because he see right through you.

[salty red]

Originally posted by Stormfire962:

Originally posted by salty red:

what happened if i can ask?

He more then likely will not answer you because he see right through you.

how so? ive tried to get you to talk to T-3C about this, and you repeatedly refused, so i have to take the word of 5 people over the word of one, im sorry, but I cant reason with someone who is reason adverse.

i have no reason to lie to you or run you astray, im tried, to help, and im sorry that i failed in the past. ill see if what this guy's issue is so i can talk to the regiment behind it.

[Vlas]

Originally posted by salty red:

because its not just one clan, its all of logi. T-3C most wars are responsible for colonial rail lines, and rails need to be super efficient as you can imagine. so naturally T-3C communicate's with everyone they can, to give them heads up for where their rail lines need to go, it happens to everyone, it even happened to our facility in stone cradle. its a mild inconvenience at most, and T-3C didnt claim the field as i assumed ealier, instead, they let OP know that rail's needed to be laid where they built their base, and OP ignored them. This isnt on T-3C, this is on OP.

So, they could have gone around, but they decided "because efficient"? LOL, mkay...

Such a weak argument, and Im going to let you all in on something. If they really gave a ♥♥♥♥, they would have helped us relocate. They would have offered to do something other than what was done, using a game mechanic in an illegal way, which... if the developers were any kind of company, would not have taken kindly to misuse of ingame mechanics.

So, since you are so keen on blaming someone, there is your focus.

[Stormfire962]

Originally posted by salty red:

Originally posted by Stormfire962:

He more then likely will not answer you because he see right through you.

how so? ive tried to get you to talk to T-3C about this, and you repeatedly refused, so i have to take the word of 5 people over the word of one, im sorry, but I cant reason with someone who is reason adverse.

i have no reason to lie to you or run you astray, im tried, to help, and im sorry that i failed in the past. ill see if what this guy's issue is so i can talk to the regiment behind it.

Here is the problem and surprise you cannot seem to possibly understand it.

You say you have no reason to lie to me. Yet I know nothing about you and you seem to want me to trust blindly. That in itself is both foolish and just plain dumb since trust is never given. It's earned and as it stand right now. You have done nothing to earn any trust from me let alone possibly this other person. Especially since this other person was wrong in game by others.

Furthermore, why aren't the clan leaders themselves not on the forums dealing with this situation? Why are you in the middle of this? What are the clans afraid of?

[Vlas]

Originally posted by salty red:

how so? ive tried to get you to talk to T-3C about this, and you repeatedly refused, so i have to take the word of 5 people over the word of one, im sorry, but I cant reason with someone who is reason adverse.

i have no reason to lie to you or run you astray, im tried, to help, and im sorry that i failed in the past. ill see if what this guy's issue is so i can talk to the regiment behind it.

Reason adverse huh? If its not your reason, then its adverse? We were learning a lot playing Foxhole, and were trying to get into the deep logistics parts to understand how crazy deep this game is. The fact is, this kind of attitude you display will destroy the game, because people will not play when people who abuse game mechanics to force their will on others, do so without corrective action.

Sad really, as we have met some really nice people in the game. Denying players their game play because you cant handle a small detour tells me all I need to know about this group that caused this problem, and you defending it tells me all I need to know about you.

[stonerman0420]

look, this a community driven game. no single person or group gets to decide to go against what has become common consensus without dealing with the consequences. no one person or clan is the main character here,

the way the game has been played since its release has been and always will be ment to be played in a way where your deeply in twined with every other person in your faction, weather or not you want to be apart of the community makes no difference to the pre arranged agreements that take place before every single war.

if your the type of person that takes any criticism at all as people trying to control you, instead of being constructive with it, this absolutely is not a game for you. if your the type that openly joins and communicates with others in the game and is more concerned with teamwork, this is a great game for you

[Kuma]

Originally posted by stonerman0420:

look, this a community driven game. no single person or group gets to decide to go against what has become common consensus without dealing with the consequences. no one person or clan is the main character here,

the way the game has been played since its release has been and always will be ment to be played in a way where your deeply in twined with every other person in your faction, weather or not you want to be apart of the community makes no difference to the pre arranged agreements that take place before every single war.

if your the type of person that takes any criticism at all as people trying to control you, instead of being constructive with it, this absolutely is not a game for you. if your the type that openly joins and communicates with others in the game and is more concerned with teamwork, this is a great game for you

On other side of the coin, this is a community driven game if you are someone who imposes themselves in narcisistic way where they are the only worthy of anything in the game because they are backed up by 20+ more slaves then it's a not a game for you, if you are a leader and you manage to not be imposing and a complete degenerate and actual listen to others that aren't part of your clan then it's a game for you.
Just here in steam forums i already saw a couple that shouldn't be playing this game because of how selfish they are i cannot imagine how many are in game, yet the fault always goes to the random who tries to learn and does mistakes.
Just like the average solo player should take criticism in a good manner same goes to clans that just because they are bigger they can be louder. Maybe just maybe 30 people all together can be wrong and 1 person can be right.

[Capt.Cruck]

Originally posted by ☠ TRENCH ☠:

I say report the Clan and its member for being toxic either way
they don't control you. Play the game the way you like. If they make that hard, you report them and you splash it all over reddit also.
These Clan Man Nerds have no power even if they were standing in front of you in real life would you let them tell you what to do?

uninstalling right now myself, had hopped collie side would be better but here I found the BB harassment buddy above was talking about. Went to start hardening a town when my planned area got beaten to, 6 hours working on the intel bunker, hadn't even started the defensive layer yet and some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ guy had tracked me down three hexes over to yell at me to go back and delete my bunker. Not fix to w.e his standard was mind you, delete.
(it needed to be about 8 units smaller in his mind) for integrity, which wasn't going to matter as the otter defences were for that, you don't hard defend from the middle of town -.-

Just wild, so he chases me around, blocks my truck when I don't respond on voice, as my current headset seems to crash the game (weird I know but its odd Chinese science I dont have proper drivers for) I guess finally turns his local on to see me asking tf his problem is, listen to tirade decide this is more than enough and I can't keep exposing my kids to these people either lmfao...

I get why there's a retention problem here.

[Capt.Cruck]

I would like to note Atlas from the Colonial side on the above, amazing community memeber you guys have there. He came to try and help me see what the problem was with the base and give direction on fixing it. I instead opted out. Given how ascew good to bad is within the community.

[stonerman0420]

Originally posted by Kuma:

Originally posted by stonerman0420:

look, this a community driven game. no single person or group gets to decide to go against what has become common consensus without dealing with the consequences. no one person or clan is the main character here,

the way the game has been played since its release has been and always will be ment to be played in a way where your deeply in twined with every other person in your faction, weather or not you want to be apart of the community makes no difference to the pre arranged agreements that take place before every single war.

if your the type of person that takes any criticism at all as people trying to control you, instead of being constructive with it, this absolutely is not a game for you. if your the type that openly joins and communicates with others in the game and is more concerned with teamwork, this is a great game for you

On other side of the coin, this is a community driven game if you are someone who imposes themselves in narcisistic way where they are the only worthy of anything in the game because they are backed up by 20+ more slaves then it's a not a game for you, if you are a leader and you manage to not be imposing and a complete degenerate and actual listen to others that aren't part of your clan then it's a game for you.
Just here in steam forums i already saw a couple that shouldn't be playing this game because of how selfish they are i cannot imagine how many are in game, yet the fault always goes to the random who tries to learn and does mistakes.
Just like the average solo player should take criticism in a good manner same goes to clans that just because they are bigger they can be louder. Maybe just maybe 30 people all together can be wrong and 1 person can be right.

this is the literal opposite of what consensus means... if you got 30 people telling you something and you dont wanna listen, or can only find fault in how they handle you and dont care at all what it is they are telling you... you are the problem in the situation. most all newbies i've ever come in contact with were usually very agreeable people who dont take it as a personal attack when told they're what their doin is having a negative impact

but yet, even if you still think they are in the wrong you can absolutely go to the wider community and bring up said problem. collies have sigil and wardens have sundial, this is where you would be able to reason with others and if found right would get support, if not you would be told to get over it

just going to forums is one of the more useless things you can do, if you actually wanted to do something about it. but most people just dont want to be imposed upon and try to paint things in a light where being told what to do is "never right for me"

[Kuma]

Originally posted by stonerman0420:

Originally posted by Kuma:

On other side of the coin, this is a community driven game if you are someone who imposes themselves in narcisistic way where they are the only worthy of anything in the game because they are backed up by 20+ more slaves then it's a not a game for you, if you are a leader and you manage to not be imposing and a complete degenerate and actual listen to others that aren't part of your clan then it's a game for you.
Just here in steam forums i already saw a couple that shouldn't be playing this game because of how selfish they are i cannot imagine how many are in game, yet the fault always goes to the random who tries to learn and does mistakes.
Just like the average solo player should take criticism in a good manner same goes to clans that just because they are bigger they can be louder. Maybe just maybe 30 people all together can be wrong and 1 person can be right.

this is the literal opposite of what consensus means... if you got 30 people telling you something and you dont wanna listen, or can only find fault in how they handle you and dont care at all what it is they are telling you... you are the problem in the situation. most all newbies i've ever come in contact with were usually very agreeable people who dont take it as a personal attack when told they're what their doin is having a negative impact

but yet, even if you still think they are in the wrong you can absolutely go to the wider community and bring up said problem. collies have sigil and wardens have sundial, this is where you would be able to reason with others and if found right would get support, if not you would be told to get over it

just going to forums is one of the more useless things you can do, if you actually wanted to do something about it. but most people just dont want to be imposed upon and try to paint things in a light where being told what to do is "never right for me"

Just to be clear i never argued with anyone but number =/= correctness, what if for absurd 40 people told you to be racist and mass report anyone for no reason? Just cause they are 40 people telling you that is correct? Even though you alone you say it's wrong...? Just saying.
Certainly if 30 people tell you something is off then probably, most likely there is but it's not 100% time correct.
More often than not people especially in groups are just jerks, there are known regiments that are known for being absolute atrocious to deal with.

[stonerman0420]

Originally posted by Kuma:

Originally posted by stonerman0420:

this is the literal opposite of what consensus means... if you got 30 people telling you something and you dont wanna listen, or can only find fault in how they handle you and dont care at all what it is they are telling you... you are the problem in the situation. most all newbies i've ever come in contact with were usually very agreeable people who dont take it as a personal attack when told they're what their doin is having a negative impact

but yet, even if you still think they are in the wrong you can absolutely go to the wider community and bring up said problem. collies have sigil and wardens have sundial, this is where you would be able to reason with others and if found right would get support, if not you would be told to get over it

just going to forums is one of the more useless things you can do, if you actually wanted to do something about it. but most people just dont want to be imposed upon and try to paint things in a light where being told what to do is "never right for me"

Just to be clear i never argued with anyone but number =/= correctness, what if for absurd 40 people told you to be racist and mass report anyone for no reason? Just cause they are 40 people telling you that is correct? Even though you alone you say it's wrong...? Just saying.
Certainly if 30 people tell you something is off then probably, most likely there is but it's not 100% time correct.
More often than not people especially in groups are just jerks, there are known regiments that are known for being absolute atrocious to deal with.

and this is why i pointed out where you can go to actually reason with people in the wider community who can have a greater impact on the situation than a forum post.

absolutely their are regi's out there who are very unagreeable people the same can be said of solo's and small groups, just creating scenarios in your head to say "see if clanman did that it could never be right" is a bit silly. consensus does NOT mean morally correct, but it IS the agreed upon expectations of fellow players by the majority of people who play it

[CGS]

Originally posted by salty red:

Originally posted by Stormfire962:

He more then likely will not answer you because he see right through you.

how so? ive tried to get you to talk to T-3C about this, and you repeatedly refused, so i have to take the word of 5 people over the word of one, im sorry, but I cant reason with someone who is reason adverse.

i have no reason to lie to you or run you astray, im tried, to help, and im sorry that i failed in the past. ill see if what this guy's issue is so i can talk to the regiment behind it.

Salty are you part of T-3C? I fear the discrepancy shown here is that, if not, you're speaking for a group, and that group isn't engaging in an open forum for discourse.

I thank you for trying to mediate, know that to this outsider it seems really not-transparent an rep from the defending party isn't present and (again, assuming you're not a member of T-3C) representing.

Are there any reasons, besides convenience or (and I hope not) indifference that T-3C doesn't engage in this forum?

[salty red]

Originally posted by ZØ:

Originally posted by salty red:

how so? ive tried to get you to talk to T-3C about this, and you repeatedly refused, so i have to take the word of 5 people over the word of one, im sorry, but I cant reason with someone who is reason adverse.

i have no reason to lie to you or run you astray, im tried, to help, and im sorry that i failed in the past. ill see if what this guy's issue is so i can talk to the regiment behind it.

Salty are you part of T-3C? I fear the discrepancy shown here is that, if not, you're speaking for a group, and that group isn't engaging in an open forum for discourse.

I thank you for trying to mediate, know that to this outsider it seems really not-transparent an rep from the defending party isn't present and (again, assuming you're not a member of T-3C) representing.

Are there any reasons, besides convenience or (and I hope not) indifference that T-3C doesn't engage in this forum?

First off, I'm not a T-3C member, hell, I'm not even a colonial this war.

Secondly, T-3C, and most players, dont use the foxhole forums because they suck. the foxhole forums is nothing but constant negativity, bad takes, and frankly rude people. realistically there is only like 10 people that are consistently active on the forums, and its like that for a reason.