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Teipic Dec 27, 2020 @ 7:03am
Are BTs ever coming back?
Are the BTs coming back to the game, and if so when? (for both sides)

I am talking about one specific BT, the warden Flood Ascension Mk. V. People just spam either the best armour or the MK. I, which was the original reason for the suspension of the BTs, both colonial and warden.
But now the colonials have the Peleksys light tank destroyer (LTD) ,which can do a variety of things - from escorting tanks to straight up taking the place of an assault tank and breaking through defences. It can even defeat the Silver Hand, which is an assault tank, in turret to turret combat.

I don't mind the colonials having a great weapon, but I would like something to counter that, even for that counter to come in a relatively high cost.

To put into perspective on what the costs of both tanks is, here are some stats.
(The following is from the Foxhole Wiki which maybe heavily out dated on certain vehicles)
- Peleksys has a 68mm gun, Max fuel 225L, 12L consumed per minute and if on constant movement will run out of fuel in 18:06 minutes, costs 145 Rms.
- The Flood Ascension Mk. V had a 75mm gun with a 12.7mm machine gun. Max fuel 250L,
consumes 44L per minute and if on constant movement it will run out of fuel IN 5:40 minutes, costs 235 x 2 Rms.
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Teipic Dec 28, 2020 @ 5:24am 
Thanks

I did come across the wiki saying that colonial vehicles are half the cost of the wardens. However someone did make a discussion about that and the answers that he got was that the wiki is outdated. On the other hand I did see the new tanks tanks and utility vehicles and even the new relic assault tank so I'm genuinely confused about what in the heck the Devs are doing with there game are just updating the new stuff and leaving it or are they really being faction specific.

Because i did feel like they are just throwing ♥♥♥♥ on one side and on the other good stuff.
Teipic Dec 29, 2020 @ 5:28am 
Originally posted by 503 A. Soldier:
Originally posted by Teipic:
Thanks

I did come across the wiki saying that colonial vehicles are half the cost of the wardens. However someone did make a discussion about that and the answers that he got was that the wiki is outdated. On the other hand I did see the new tanks tanks and utility vehicles and even the new relic assault tank so I'm genuinely confused about what in the heck the Devs are doing with there game are just updating the new stuff and leaving it or are they really being faction specific.

Because i did feel like they are just throwing ♥♥♥♥ on one side and on the other good stuff.

It's not outdated because if you scroll down you will see the new variants as well as the fact that it says the threshold for disabling the vehicle is 30% now and not 50% like before the most recent update.

Also about the vehicles themselves, the only 2 good things we got from the entire multi-part update were probably the long barreled BT and Silverhand.

The up-armored BT wasn't as good because while having higher armor after it degraded from damage, hence the fix armor mechanic for the garage, it's basically useless and makes you lose more HP which is the same as the normal BT, while the Colonials got more HP on their up-armored BT. But if the armor was at 100% you did have a higher chance of not penetrating which is the only small plus side but it didn't add up to the price, fuel consumption and speed of the tank.

And now they've removed BTs altogether because they required coordination, something which the Colonials lack badly and we were dominating them in BT to BT combat like always in terms of tanks.

As well as nerfing the Silverhand to the ground while giving them a 45 meter range Light Tank on steroids basically which is just 5 rmats more and only drawback being the open top because honestly who needs a turret when you have a fast forward and reverse speed and can also turn on a dime.

Not to mention the Mortar Halftrack as well now which has no counter currently.

And while yes the Colonials will say that the Silverhand and 45 meter range BT didn't have a counter as well upon release they at least could answer with their own beefier BTs while it's not the same case with the LTD and MHT right now.

What we're going to answer with the 35 meter range gimped 68mm gun of the Silverhand or something while the LTD could just stay away at 10 more meters and simply snipe? Sure.

The current meta is just designed around BTs without the actual BTs, it's reflected by how the front is stagnant and how numerous and powerful AT has become since it's primarily designed to also fight the big HP and armor monsters that were BTs.

They have done nothing more than replacing one problem with another problem, because nobody in their right mind would spam out anything else but SHs and LTDs if they're unlocked if there are no BTs and their excuse was that BTs were spammed late game too much, that's all.


also a problem that the community had talked about them removing one problem and then another spam vehicle comes which in the colonial case was the LTD and on the wardens case the Silver which by practical definition. Even the Devs said in there LTD stream that its a Sniper Tank / Tank Destroyer which on how they present this is just encouraging people to spam anyway.

Going back to the wiki I'am still not sure that they keep it up to date with the other vehicles such as the Silver which now instead of a 40mm gun it has a 35mm (because colis love to complain to devs to nerf ♥♥♥♥) however the wiki on the Silver says that it has a 40mm gun this can still make it unsure is that it could be referencing the shell type which stayed 40mm.

Going now to the Devs being bias conspiracy... ...you know what ill just make a another discussion about that and see what people think.
Teipic Dec 29, 2020 @ 5:29am 
CAN MORE PEOPLE JOIN THIS PLACE
Horny Rooster Dec 29, 2020 @ 9:28pm 
I think BT's should have just been increased in price, 400 rmats is too cheap IMO. If they wanted BT's to not get spammed, INCREASE THE PRICE IN RMATS, so they are rare and super super expensive, like maybe 600 rmats, 400 RMATS was way way too cheap for these beasts.
Teipic Dec 30, 2020 @ 2:07pm 
Originally posted by Horny Rooster:
I think BT's should have just been increased in price, 400 rmats is too cheap IMO. If they wanted BT's to not get spammed, INCREASE THE PRICE IN RMATS, so they are rare and super super expensive, like maybe 600 rmats, 400 RMATS was way way too cheap for these beasts.

Apparently the devs are bias so its like 200 for colis
Teipic Dec 30, 2020 @ 2:09pm 
also can we take a minute to calm a bit down I know people are mad that the Devs are... not the best managing what people want so just chill :)
Teipic Dec 30, 2020 @ 2:44pm 
also I think i found a counter to the LTD
this being the warden AT HT. which apparently was also the same range as the LTD
HKO2006 (no mic) Dec 31, 2020 @ 4:51am 
AT HT has 40

Originally posted by Teipic:
also I think i found a counter to the LTD
this being the warden AT HT. which apparently was also the same range as the LTD
AT HT is slower and not as tanky though
Teipic Jan 2, 2021 @ 9:30am 
Originally posted by HKO2006:
AT HT has 40

Originally posted by Teipic:
also I think i found a counter to the LTD
this being the warden AT HT. which apparently was also the same range as the LTD
AT HT is slower and not as tanky though


Originally posted by 503 A. Soldier:
Originally posted by Teipic:
also I think i found a counter to the LTD
this being the warden AT HT. which apparently was also the same range as the LTD

LTD has 45 meters of range, AT HT has either 40 or they nerfed it down to 35 like on the Silverhand's 68mm so not sure about that exactly.

But I am pretty sure the LTD is the most long range direct fire vehicle right now in the game with the long barreled BT out of the picture.

HMMMmmm so no then :(
Chipmonk Jan 15, 2021 @ 6:28am 
I really hope they add BTs back... I think they will readd them but making them cost some iron. Especially the Ascension (tiger bt hype) which would be our best counter to ltd.
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