The prologe is an bad end of Pathologic 1?

[ILLUSIVESNAKE95]

I think so because the dialogue with Mark leads us to it and the fact that Aglaya is alive

[anaphylactic god]

yes

[Demetry842]

This is depend on yours sight. Who knows will you like Aglaya (for example) or not. Did you want to save the city, or may be you think that this city is suck anyway...
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SPOILER.

Main.... action (city... plague...) - it is not all story. In the end you can find another meaning. Well it was in original game, but i think - here will be the same.

[ILLUSIVESNAKE95]

Originally posted by Demetry842:

This is depend on yours sight. Who knows will you like Aglaya (for example) or not. Did you want to save the city, or may be you think that this city is suck anyway...
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SPOILER.

Main.... action (city... plague...) - it is not all story. In the end you can find another meaning. Well it was in original game, but i think - here will be the same.

Demetry842
If you haven't finished the game don't read In the end of Pathologic 2 Aglaya dies in the end anyway

[Demetry842]

A nah... I'm never really liked her anyway. Aglaya and persons like she - it's the main reason of the plague. Town mistress... Nina, Victoria, Katerina... They have build unfair, unbalanced society. You can even say slave-holding.

And when it was done, they became lazy and... apathetic (if you already have all, why should you do anything else). Slave system strikes not only the slaves, but the masters. Sistem starts falling. Plague... war...economy... ecology... no matter what, but it will be.
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So... you have finished Pathologic 2, but not the first part? And you are saying that they are different?

Well... in this case, the answer on yours thread can be a... spoiler (if you"re planning to play part one).
+ as i said here not a good\bad (objectively). There are a plenty of endings (and here - must be the same... but nowadays developers became greedy, and for now we have only one hero for play, and may be not all endings - not sure, didnt finished yet). In a part one, Aglaya (for example) can survive (at least it was in a first "box version"... maybe in a late steam version they have change it).

[Lara Croft]

Umm . . . the developers aren’t greedy. They lost most of the value of the funding they raised when a financial crisis hit right after the Kickstarter, and releasing the Haruspex route solo, with the other two to come later, was their only option in their current financial state.

[Demetry842]

Originally posted by Snorlax, the grapefruit pokémon:

Umm . . . the developers aren’t greedy. They lost most of the value of the funding they raised when a financial crisis .....

"financial crisis"... excuses for any situation :)

No one really know that it means but all talking about it (last 100 years). Two "magic" words - and you can do that you like".
"-Who took my donut?
- it was "financial crisis"!

Seriously? Even cartoons are already making fun of such excuses!

See! That's what happens when Aglaya, and others like her, don't care about city. :)

..... but it's already off topic.

[ILLUSIVESNAKE95]

Originally posted by Demetry842:

A nah... I'm never really liked her anyway. Aglaya and persons like she - it's the main reason of the plague. Town mistress... Nina, Victoria, Katerina... They have build unfair, unbalanced society. You can even say slave-holding.

And when it was done, they became lazy and... apathetic (if you already have all, why should you do anything else). Slave system strikes not only the slaves, but the masters. Sistem starts falling. Plague... war...economy... ecology... no matter what, but it will be.
__________

So... you have finished Pathologic 2, but not the first part? And you are saying that they are different?

Well... in this case, the answer on yours thread can be a... spoiler (if you"re planning to play part one).
+ as i said here not a good\bad (objectively). There are a plenty of endings (and here - must be the same... but nowadays developers became greedy, and for now we have only one hero for play, and may be not all endings - not sure, didnt finished yet). In a part one, Aglaya (for example) can survive (at least it was in a first "box version"... maybe in a late steam version they have change it).

I have finished first part long ago.In this part she dies anyway

Originally posted by Demetry842:

Originally posted by Snorlax, the grapefruit pokémon:

Umm . . . the developers aren’t greedy. They lost most of the value of the funding they raised when a financial crisis .....

"financial crisis"... excuses for any situation :)

No one really know that it means but all talking about it (last 100 years). Two "magic" words - and you can do that you like".
"-Who took my donut?
- it was "financial crisis"!

Seriously? Even cartoons are already making fun of such excuses!

See! That's what happens when Aglaya, and others like her, don't care about city. :)

..... but it's already off topic.

Ice pick have made this game on the level which not ever big developers can make. That excuses EVERYTHING.

[Lara Croft]

Originally posted by Demetry842:

Originally posted by Snorlax, the grapefruit pokémon:

Umm . . . the developers aren’t greedy. They lost most of the value of the funding they raised when a financial crisis .....

"financial crisis"... excuses for any situation :)

No one really know that it means but all talking about it (last 100 years). Two "magic" words - and you can do that you like".

Are you really that dense?

They collected money in one currency, then the Russian economy took a dive and that currency was devalued.

The money they collected thus had about half the purchasing power it had had the week before.

They said all this months ago. The devaluation is easily verifiable.

Nobody’s trying to use the devaluation of the ruble as an excuse for anything except a shortage of rubles.

[ILLUSIVESNAKE95]

Originally posted by Snorlax, the grapefruit pokémon:

Originally posted by Demetry842:

"financial crisis"... excuses for any situation :)

No one really know that it means but all talking about it (last 100 years). Two "magic" words - and you can do that you like".

Are you really that dense?

They collected money in one currency, then the Russian economy took a dive and that currency was devalued.

The money they collected thus had about half the purchasing power it had had the week before.

They said all this months ago. The devaluation is easily verifiable.

Nobody’s trying to use the devaluation of the ruble as an excuse for anything except a shortage of rubles.

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[Vekk†rsz.]

Well, if we take a look carefully, the prologue is a flashback to how the previous game ended up for Haruspex, he had to make this difficult choice. I think devs decided to explain this whole Pathologic 2 thing this way, like the previous game was just one possible scenario.

[jbr_r18]

Originally posted by Snorlax, the grapefruit pokémon:

They collected money in one currency, then the Russian economy took a dive and that currency was devalued.

The money they collected thus had about half the purchasing power it had had the week before.

They said all this months ago. The devaluation is easily verifiable.

Nobody’s trying to use the devaluation of the ruble as an excuse for anything except a shortage of rubles.

Its actually the opposite to how you described.

If you collect in dollars with the plan to convert to a different currency (rubles), and that converted currency goes down, then when you convert you actually have more rubles.

E.g. if the exchange rate is 1 dollar is worth 0.5 rubles, then 10 million is worth 20 million rubles.
If the rate falls so 1 dollar is worth 0.25 rubles, it is now worth 40 million rubles

My understanding is a major investor got hit by the financial downturn and that caused a deal separate from the crowdfunding to fall through, which caused the change to the game

[Gor Mor]

Originally posted by jbr_r18:

Originally posted by Snorlax, the grapefruit pokémon:

They collected money in one currency, then the Russian economy took a dive and that currency was devalued.

The money they collected thus had about half the purchasing power it had had the week before.

They said all this months ago. The devaluation is easily verifiable.

Nobody’s trying to use the devaluation of the ruble as an excuse for anything except a shortage of rubles.

Its actually the opposite to how you described.

If you collect in dollars with the plan to convert to a different currency (rubles), and that converted currency goes down, then when you convert you actually have more rubles.

E.g. if the exchange rate is 1 dollar is worth 0.5 rubles, then 10 million is worth 20 million rubles.
If the rate falls so 1 dollar is worth 0.25 rubles, it is now worth 40 million rubles

My understanding is a major investor got hit by the financial downturn and that caused a deal separate from the crowdfunding to fall through, which caused the change to the game

Exactly.

They should had have the same amount of money if they wanted something outside of Russia and twice amount of money if they would do everything domestic.

Unless they had converted all the dollars they had collected at Kickstartert into rubles, which was stupid, given all the whole year build up for this, including the Russian government discussing devaluating ruble way before Ukraine and oil drop.

The only thing I could believe with this "crisis" is that some invester pulled out off the Russian market.

[Lara Croft]

Originally posted by jbr_r18:

Originally posted by Snorlax, the grapefruit pokémon:

They collected money in one currency, then the Russian economy took a dive and that currency was devalued.

The money they collected thus had about half the purchasing power it had had the week before.

They said all this months ago. The devaluation is easily verifiable.

Nobody’s trying to use the devaluation of the ruble as an excuse for anything except a shortage of rubles.

Its actually the opposite to how you described.

If you collect in dollars with the plan to convert to a different currency (rubles), and that converted currency goes down, then when you convert you actually have more rubles.

E.g. if the exchange rate is 1 dollar is worth 0.5 rubles, then 10 million is worth 20 million rubles.
If the rate falls so 1 dollar is worth 0.25 rubles, it is now worth 40 million rubles

My understanding is a major investor got hit by the financial downturn and that caused a deal separate from the crowdfunding to fall through, which caused the change to the game

Sorry, I realize that they raise dollars on Kickstarter, but when I spoke of them collecting money in a currency that was devalued I was indeed speaking of rubles, on the assumption that even if I donated dollars they received it all in rubles, since they can’t really spend dollars.

But I do agree that your explanation is correct, it’s just not what I (and it’s my fault for being unclear) meant; I was viewing them as having, for all practical purposes, raising what ultimately became rubles that were then devalued.