My first Ace combat, gameplay is fun but the flight is WAAAY too slow.

[DaniTheHero]

I was really hoping to get my adrenaline running in some mach speed-like battles, but i was disappointed to learn the planes are actually really slow. At first i thought it was just the early planes, but even using the near max speed OP deluxe planes, i barely felt the difference in speed.
If you first person you can clearly see that you're practically hovering like a fast helicopter. No G's at all :c

[paomayo]

What plane were you using? The MiG-31 is the fastest, stat-wise. And keep in mind your FoV can pull some tricks on your eyes,

[BITMajo]

I think OP is talking about the feeling of speed, not the actual game play speed, perhaps it would be better for him if a sound barrier breaking effect, or some anime/manga style speed line overlay is added in game.

In reality most AC7 planes are flying WAY faster than their real life counterpart, the MiG-31's
top speed is at 3000 km/h in RL, In game however, you can go 800 km/h more faster at high altitude with engine enhancement parts.

A-10, One of the slowest plane in game, has a top speed at 676 km/h in RL, but in game you could fly 2 to 3 times faster, almost 4 times if you have all engine enhancements and is flying at high altitude.

In terms of game mechanics, a top speed MiG-31 is almost as fast as standard missiles already.
https://youtu.be/fmqsR1XJlLs
Making planes fly even faster will just render all long range weapon meaningless, so i don't think planes actually need to be faster, some more special effects might be nice though.

[undefined_variable]

I think it's mostly a matter of perspective since you are usually flying way high above ground, so everything on the ground looks the same. If you fly low though the perceived speed would increase dramatically, especially when you're flying between pillars or through some tunnels .

[RIP BandaiNamco]

Originally posted by DaniTheHero:

I was really hoping to get my adrenaline running in some mach speed-like battles, but i was disappointed to learn the planes are actually really slow. At first i thought it was just the early planes, but even using the near max speed OP deluxe planes, i barely felt the difference in speed.
If you first person you can clearly see that you're practically hovering like a fast helicopter. No G's at all :c

You'd go insane if you play previous AC games or Project Wingman, where there's even no High-G turns
Maybe Assault Horizon is a better choice for you

[cyäegha]

he is right though
with the increase in fidelity came a reduction in the sense of speed, to the point that i don't even recall if aircraft create sonic booms

ace combat 3 probably had the best sense of speed, but that also could just be down to the aircraft in that game physically being the fastest in the entire series

[ligher076179]

If you watch a youtube video (thank scientists for this ability) of a jet flying supersonic, you will observe that it's not actually very exciting in real life.

The altimeter instrument goes ballistic. That is all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1PgNbgWSyY
Skip to 11:00.

You may be expecting more because of whatever you have seen from the secondary observer perspective. Yay relativity.

Fun fact, a pilot can break mach at slower air speeds the higher the altitude.

The more you know.

o7

[Rastrelly]

Try flying close to the ground at top speed. You'll see how "slow" it actually is.

[RIP BandaiNamco]

Do people think a natural law of perspective is a lie or something since OP sounds so

[cyäegha]

field of view is one of those little bits of camera trickery that can drastically alter the perception of speed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54Oy75Bnu_Q

if you have a steady point of reference, say rows of buildings near ground level, the airspeed delta is much easier to make out visually, but at 30,000 feet, especially with heavy cloud cover obscuring the ground, your ability to visually gauge relative differences in airspeed diminishes somewhat
it's so much worse when you have things like hraesvelgr, aigaion or the gleipnir that have incongruent speeds and take up a large portion of your screen

no, OP didn't say "the aircraft have gotten slower", he said it "felt like they were slower", presumably compared to earlier titles in the series

[Pixel_64]

They fly much faster than their real life counterparts... I suppose your trying to say there aren't enough effects to indicate speed, and I do agree- it would be nice to see the sound barrier actually breaking. Other options could be increasing FOV, maybe some 'wind lines' or whatever animators like to call them. Perhaps more dust/ocean spray effects could help too, or trees rustling as the plane goes by, although those 2 may require increased GPU performance...

[DaniTheHero]

Originally posted by TheConductor_64:

They fly much faster than their real life counterparts... I suppose your trying to say there aren't enough effects to indicate speed, and I do agree- it would be nice to see the sound barrier actually breaking. Other options could be increasing FOV, maybe some 'wind lines' or whatever animators like to call them. Perhaps more dust/ocean spray effects could help too, or trees rustling as the plane goes by, although those 2 may require increased GPU performance...

That’s so weird. I suppose it’s just the perspective and lack of effects indeed because it feels like I’m hovering half the time.