Multiplayer has me saltier than the ocean.

[TheARate]

I've tried multiplayer a few times, and each time, there's always 2 to 5 players with what seems to be maximum rank always jump into a lobby and do stuff that looks low-key impossible. Either they've all played the game every day since day one, or are using cheats or something, because I cannot for the love of God do almost anything successfully around these wackos. They always score 50000+ points in any round, and tend to do stuff like this:

- Fire missiles that seem to appear 200~ish meters away from the actual jet and track perfectly at any velocity or range, and somehow instantly turn around and impact me when shooting past,
- Lock on and fire said missiles even when in front of and facing parallel to me when I'm attempting to tail 'em,
- Survive SEVERAL railgun rounds,
- Do near-static 180-degree flips within the span of half of a second,
Plus probably some other stuff.

Anyways, they always go for me when I'm available on the battlefield. I know this isn't perception bias, because I have seen them ALL converge in an attempt to run me down, firing off every missile in their arsenals. And if it's not all of them, it's always at least one or two that's attempting to(and succeeding at) sniping me down with long ranged missiles from 10000~ meters away, or one that is ALWAYS and CONSTANTLY on my tail, spamming high-turn missiles and always spraying the gun.
Either these are no-lives who do nothing but play this game in a Discord call and refuse to let any other players enjoy multiplayer, or I'm going crazy and need some sort of copium-adjacent medication.

But yeah, not fun.

[Devsman]

Why would you ever subject yourself to multiplayer? In any game?

[TheARate]

Originally posted by Devsman:

Why would you ever subject yourself to multiplayer? In any game?

Y'know, you've got a point...

[eEXM-21]

Git Gud™

[TheARate]

Originally posted by eEXM-21:

Git Gud™

Classic Steam discussion response from your token private profile lacking a profile picture. Your responses are a dime-a-dozen.

[King Fossil]

Originally posted by Devsman:

Why would you ever subject yourself to multiplayer? In any game?

ACi coop was fun though. Taking on Stonehenge with the boys. Or Excalibur with the boys. Aigaion. SOLG. Anything.
Winning games as idolplane squads and feeling cool.

[WATER BUCKET! RELEEAASEEE]

Honestly, I think your frustration is understandable in a way.

MP is much different from campaign, and you'll most likely find people that play this game for more thsn 500 hours, so they can be quite the challenge to new players like you.

First of all, a clarification for the things that you have mentioned here:

- This missile you were talkimg about in the 2 first points is most likely QAAM, it is especifically the best missile homing-wise in the game, it has a lock angle close to 180° and loop around if they miss, so they can be quite annoying to deal with sometimes.

- A maxed out damage EML will deal, on average, 95% damage to planes that have the bulletproof tank lv2 part, so I guess you were not using parts to improve its damage, or using the CFA-44 dual EML, which deals only half the damage per-shot.

- Those turns are called "Post Stall Maneuvers", or PSM for short (don't confuse this with high-g turns), these are a mechanic in the game that allows some planes to perform drifts and really tight turns, and trust me, they're easily exploitable. You'll probably find videos of people using them to do things like reverse flights or for duels, considering that they're the main mechanic used in 1v1s.

- The reason everyone is probably targeting you is because you're a new player, so people in the lobby consider you an easy target to farm points.

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So... you may be asking: how can I counter these things? I'll give you some advice on how to start and improve in MP in general:

1. Make sure to have Lv.2 parts

If you don't want to get absolutely destroyed, you MUST have lv2 parts equiped on your plane, especially missile homing parts, these are essential.

(In case you're wondering they can be found on the bottom of the aircraft tree).

2. Use a good plane

As a new player, don't expect to go in a match with a F-14D and win, you'll have to use something stronger.

I think the Rafale M is the best choice for beginners, it has top maneuverbility, above average stats and reliable Sp.W, which in this case is HCAA.

3. Make a good build

Builds are REALLY important, depending on what parts you put on your plane it can greatly improve its performance. I'll give you a Rafale M (HCAA) build here.
I'll be naming some parts in a short way, so in case you don't find one with that specific name, check their descriptions.

Light Blisk lv.2
Flaps lv.3
Superior M. lv.2
Bulletproof Tank lv.2

Sp.w Damage lv.2
Sp.w Homing lv.2
Sp.w Ammo lv.2
Sp.w Reload lv.2

Once you use this, you'll surely feel a major improvement.

As a conclusion, if you are really willing to improve in MP, it will be tough, you will fall and find yourself frustrated a lot of times, however make sure to never give up; keep trying and practicing.

If you have any more questions, feel free to ask them.

Good luck!

[DioMeD22]

The game is not new, what do you expect? There are veteran players in every old online game who destroy new players easily

[Nathanx42]

Quite frankly PA gives you little to zero real introduction to even the most basic mechanics of multiplayer.

I don't blame anyone who is new for being not good at the games.

[Algester]

or you were playing against

vbcfbhu if you are.... may god bless your soul

such feats include
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVIeJ8rRo4Y

and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Nw2llvZksA

[Mandellorian]

Originally posted by DioMeD22:

The game is not new, what do you expect? There are veteran players in every old online game who destroy new players easily

Oh I don`t know..how about competent match making that pits players against those of similar levels..you know like ANY competent multiplayer game has been doing for decades?

[DioMeD22]

Originally posted by mandellorian:

Originally posted by DioMeD22:

The game is not new, what do you expect? There are veteran players in every old online game who destroy new players easily

Oh I don`t know..how about competent match making that pits players against those of similar levels..you know like ANY competent multiplayer game has been doing for decades?

With low playerbase you can end up finding no matches at all

[VulkanAPC]

and, the way to do psm is to make sure your speed is lower than 500, then press high-g first,and then press the pitch botton（hold high g all the time), and you can make it

[Ballistic Drop]

Originally posted by King Fossil:

Originally posted by Devsman:

Why would you ever subject yourself to multiplayer? In any game?

ACi coop was fun though. Taking on Stonehenge with the boys. Or Excalibur with the boys. Aigaion. SOLG. Anything.
Winning games as idolplane squads and feeling cool.

This.

I have played in some MP games for Ace Combat and I got a few L2 unlocks just by spamming 6AAM until I get a few lucky kills, I am more competitive now with the unlocks but it is a pain.

I really wish they had the competitive Co-op from ACi, it was a fun way to pass the time and make progress.

[Ballistic Drop]

Originally posted by mandellorian:

Originally posted by DioMeD22:

The game is not new, what do you expect? There are veteran players in every old online game who destroy new players easily

Oh I don`t know..how about competent match making that pits players against those of similar levels..you know like ANY competent multiplayer game has been doing for decades?

Blame that on whoever set up the lobby you were in. The host can set points limits to keep the way OP DLC planes out of the match.

[Nubzy]

Originally posted by TheARate:

Originally posted by eEXM-21:

Git Gud™

Classic Steam discussion response from your token private profile lacking a profile picture. Your responses are a dime-a-dozen.

bots maybe ?