ACE COMBAT™7: SKIES UNKNOWN

ACE COMBAT™7: SKIES UNKNOWN

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The Gaming Killer 2019년 3월 19일 오전 12시 56분
Canon Aircraft
I prefer playing with the canon aircraft throughout the Campaign, but I have no idea when to start using a few things, maybe some people could help, or know better than me. 1, I know trigger uses the F-16C up until mission 4, but does he keep using it in Spare Squadron? It seems like he does in Mission 7 when the cutscene shows him in it, but in that mission they act like they just got these planes, and not to crash them. So what does trigger use in mission 5 and 6? 2. does trigger use the F-15C before Fleet Destruction? I assume he doesn't but it's bothering me since I keep seeing screenshots of him in Spare Squad with it, and in a couple trailers and screenshots from mission 9 he uses it. 3. When does Trigger start using the F-22A? I assume it's either Mission 15, 16, or 17, but I don't know which one. Personally I think Last Hope, but maybe he got an F-22 for Farbanti, or maybe the new strider squadron that the briefing officer talked about, wasn't just Huxian and Jaegar being added, but Trigger also getting a new plane? I'm very curious about this, and I don't see it being talked about. I don't know what to pick for each mission and it bothers me quite a bit. Come to think of it, the way Ace Combat 5 plays out, I'm starting to think they didn't use the F-14A up until Ancient walls, but that's just an extra thought. I'd like to hear your opinions though, or if there is any confirmation.
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Canon crafts for Trigger imo:
F-16C as Mage 2, to keep the element with Mage 1 who was also on F-16
F-104C on Mission 5, given the least useful craft in hanger since he had the worst "sin line" status in the 444th air base
F-16C or F/A-18F as Spare 15 from M6, getting evaluated as the "somewhat useful potential" and getting allowed to use some better crafts
F-15C as Strider 1 from M11 since the teammates including Cyclops Squad were on F-15
F-22 from M17 for regrouping and moving to Tyler Isle with the best craft available

"My" Trigger just went "Screw F-16, I want some MiG and Sukhoi" btw.
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Gojira destructor 2019년 3월 19일 오전 1시 39분 
Well, if you go off of what Trigger's squadmates are using:
-as Mage 2, he'd be flying an F-16C
-as Spare 15, he'd be flying an F/A18F
-as Strider 1, he'd be flying an F-15C

Granted, Spare squadron is pretty versatile as to what kind of plane he'd be flying (though something like an F-22A at that stage would be pushing it). He may also have gotten special consideration in recognition of his skills by the LRSSG in his plane of choice, so who knows?

Also, the cinematic after First Contact shows Avril looking at an F-15C (presumably Trigger's).

As for the F-22A...maybe after the Stonehenge Defensive? They pretty much would've recognised Trigger as a top pilot and given him the choice of a higher-end plane.

And yes, in AC5, canonically Wardog would've used the F-5E at first. They would've (canonically) swapped to F-14s, at the latest, after they were branded traitors and became Razgriz.
The Gaming Killer 2019년 3월 19일 오전 1시 52분 
Gojira destructor님이 먼저 게시:
Well, if you go off of what Trigger's squadmates are using:
-as Mage 2, he'd be flying an F-16C
-as Spare 15, he'd be flying an F/A18F
-as Strider 1, he'd be flying an F-15C

Granted, Spare squadron is pretty versatile as to what kind of plane he'd be flying (though something like an F-22A at that stage would be pushing it). He may also have gotten special consideration in recognition of his skills by the LRSSG in his plane of choice, so who knows?

Also, the cinematic after First Contact shows Avril looking at an F-15C (presumably Trigger's).

As for the F-22A...maybe after the Stonehenge Defensive? They pretty much would've recognised Trigger as a top pilot and given him the choice of a higher-end plane.

And yes, in AC5, canonically Wardog would've used the F-5E at first. They would've (canonically) swapped to F-14s, at the latest, after they were branded traitors and became Razgriz.

That's what I was referring to, that they started using the F-14 after being branded traitors

Other than that, No it's official trigger used the F-16C the F-15C, and the F-22A. Though we aren't sure if he used something else in Spare squadron, we are sure he used both the F-15 and 22 at some point, he definitely had the F-22 in Lighthouse, and almost Definitively had it by Lost Kingdom, that's my question. I am aware the cutscene after mission 7 shows an F-15, but at the same time, the cutscene with Mihaly sometime after that (I don't recall when) shows him using an F-16C in First Contact, and Bandog says in that mission not to screw up these nice planes, as if they haven't had them before, and the planes they had before were expendable (or at least for trigger). What I am curious about is if Trigger used one of the crappy planes, like the Starfighter or the Fishbed, before mission 7, got his F-16 back in Mission 7, and after that got promoted to the F-15C, or maybe Strider/Cyclops gave him one. And I doubt trigger was using an F-22 before Farbanti. When we get to farbanti, does he use it there? Or does he start using it in mission 16 when they say "The new Strider squadron" or in mission 17 when the briefing officer tells you to pick a capable plane? Or maybe even by mission 19, they get an F-22 from Shilage? Though that would probably be pushing it.
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628 (차단됨) 2019년 3월 19일 오전 5시 11분 
Canon crafts for Trigger imo:
F-16C as Mage 2, to keep the element with Mage 1 who was also on F-16
F-104C on Mission 5, given the least useful craft in hanger since he had the worst "sin line" status in the 444th air base
F-16C or F/A-18F as Spare 15 from M6, getting evaluated as the "somewhat useful potential" and getting allowed to use some better crafts
F-15C as Strider 1 from M11 since the teammates including Cyclops Squad were on F-15
F-22 from M17 for regrouping and moving to Tyler Isle with the best craft available

"My" Trigger just went "Screw F-16, I want some MiG and Sukhoi" btw.
Gaser 2019년 3월 19일 오전 5시 39분 
Ryan628jpn님이 먼저 게시:
Canon crafts for Trigger imo:
F-16C as Mage 2, to keep the element with Mage 1 who was also on F-16
F-104C on Mission 5, given the least useful craft in hanger since he had the worst "sin line" status in the 444th air base
F-16C or F/A-18F as Spare 15 from M6, getting evaluated as the "somewhat useful potential" and getting allowed to use some better crafts
F-15C as Strider 1 from M11 since the teammates including Cyclops Squad were on F-15
F-22 from M17 for regrouping and moving to Tyler Isle with the best craft available

"My" Trigger just went "Screw F-16, I want some MiG and Sukhoi" btw.

My one was just like: "A F-4 is all I need."

*Last two mission Vietnam flashback*
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strask 2019년 3월 19일 오후 5시 38분 
In my second campaign playthrough, I went somewhat anti-cannonical and had a blast. Head-cannon was that trigger flies an Su-34 and was transferred to Mage by mistake. Not yet qualified on any other planes, so that's what he flies. Then gets sent to 444 and they send the '34 with him because regs won't let them send him up in anything else. And of course no training or certification for convicts, so no chance for other planes until Strider squadron with the LRSSG. But even then I kept him in the Su-34 for most missions, I caved a little bit near the end and used Su-57 some for endgame.
Young Erusean Officer 2019년 3월 19일 오후 6시 03분 
Trigger is Osean/OADF thus he likely stuck with Murican planes. 444 is the only Osean squadron this far that used anything which fit them well imo.

At the final mission he could flown anything.
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Suzaku 2019년 3월 19일 오후 11시 55분 
I'd say Trigger flies the F-16 until mission 4.
From mission 5 to 10, he probably flies a mig-21 or a F-104 because that is when you automatically unlock those planes in your first playthrough.
From mission 11 to 16, he probably flies the F-15C because its his squadron's plane of choice and from mission 17 to 20 he flies the F-22.
Reminder that what I'm saying is just speculation, I really don't wanna be right about the F-104, lol.
The Gaming Killer 2019년 3월 20일 오전 12시 19분 
Ryan628jpn님이 먼저 게시:
Canon crafts for Trigger imo:
F-16C as Mage 2, to keep the element with Mage 1 who was also on F-16
F-104C on Mission 5, given the least useful craft in hanger since he had the worst "sin line" status in the 444th air base
F-16C or F/A-18F as Spare 15 from M6, getting evaluated as the "somewhat useful potential" and getting allowed to use some better crafts
F-15C as Strider 1 from M11 since the teammates including Cyclops Squad were on F-15
F-22 from M17 for regrouping and moving to Tyler Isle with the best craft available

"My" Trigger just went "Screw F-16, I want some MiG and Sukhoi" btw.


Suzaku님이 먼저 게시:
I'd say Trigger flies the F-16 until mission 4.
From mission 5 to 10, he probably flies a mig-21 or a F-104 because that is when you automatically unlock those planes in your first playthrough.
From mission 11 to 16, he probably flies the F-15C because its his squadron's plane of choice and from mission 17 to 20 he flies the F-22.
Reminder that what I'm saying is just speculation, I really don't wanna be right about the F-104, lol.

Negatory, I quoted this as the answer because I feel, besides trigger getting the F-16C in mission 10 (which I think he would get it in Mission 7) it makes the most sense to me. Not only that, but Bandog in mission 7 talks as if the plane you're flying in is suddenly worth something. I doubt the Starfighter is, so I'm guessing trigger got his F-16C back in Mission 7 since he is seen using it in a Erusian cutscenes.
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