Are there currently active online players I want to play online.

[主人 CK]

Are there currently active online players I want to play online.

[RIP BandaiNamco]

Wait for AC8

[主人 CK]

ty

[soup]

there are some active players. SteamCharts says ac7 clocks on average of 483 players this month. Lobby wait time is around 2-5 mins from my experience. hope this helps.

[主人 CK]

ty so much

[主人 CK]

Do you think I should buy AC7 to play online right now?

[momof645]

i just got acecombat 7 please put me on ur list of friends

[主人 CK]

sure but ı dont have ac7

[Fomin]

Originally posted by 主人 Kayle:

Are there currently active online players I want to play online.

This game will definitely get killed with regard to multiplayer functionality just like the last Ace Combat game on Steam (Ace Combat: Assault Horizon which had multiplayer coop when I bought it) and Ace Combat Infinity which is completely dead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU7DGWjwE74

Certain people will try will try to defend this by saying that they have to pay licensing fees but this defense falls apart when you consider how many older Call of Duty and Battlefield games with modern weapons are still playable.

Add to this the fact that a court has ruled that game companies do NOT have to pay licensing fees for using military vehicles in their games (in the Activision VS AM General Case of 2020: see below) and it becomes obvious that the most likely culprit for Ace Combat games being periodically culled by Nacmo-Bandai is that the company wants to take older games off the market so people will have to buy new ones. (That also likely explains why they won't sell older versions of the Tekken and Soul Calibur games which are IPs they themselves created.)

If you want to buy this game for single-player, that's a highly subjective proposal with no clear right answer but if you want to buy it for multiplayer, just know it's likely only a matter of time till Namco kills it.

Notes:

Call of Duty games can depict Humvees without a license, says judge

https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/1/21203414/activision-wins-humvee-call-of-duty-trademark-infringement-lawsuit

[paomayo]

Originally posted by Fomin:

Certain people will try will try to defend this by saying that they have to pay licensing fees but this defense falls apart when you consider how many older Call of Duty and Battlefield games with modern weapons are still playable.

Add to this the fact that a court has ruled that game companies do NOT have to pay licensing fees for using military vehicles in their games (in the Activision VS AM General Case of 2020: see below) and it becomes obvious that the most likely culprit for Ace Combat games being periodically culled by Nacmo-Bandai is that the company wants to take older games off the market so people will have to buy new ones. (That also likely explains why they won't sell older versions of the Tekken and Soul Calibur games which are IPs they themselves created.)

If you want to buy this game for single-player, that's a highly subjective proposal with no clear right answer but if you want to buy it for multiplayer, just know it's likely only a matter of time till Namco kills it.

Notes:

Call of Duty games can depict Humvees without a license, says judge

https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/1/21203414/activision-wins-humvee-call-of-duty-trademark-infringement-lawsuit

Yeah, there is one problem with the Humvee comparison:

BN is a JAPANESE company. American laws don't apply overseas, so it's more prudent to license the planes especially that there are differing laws in many countries. And we are talking about corporations dealing with aerospace, larger than GM/AM.

https://www.reddit.com/r/acecombat/comments/fv3wt5/judge_rules_activision_doesnt_need_permission/

[Fomin]

Originally posted by Fomin:

Originally posted by 主人 Kayle:

Are there currently active online players I want to play online.

This game will definitely get killed with regard to multiplayer functionality just like the last Ace Combat game on Steam (Ace Combat: Assault Horizon which had multiplayer coop when I bought it) and Ace Combat Infinity which is completely dead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU7DGWjwE74

Certain people will try will try to defend this by saying that they have to pay licensing fees but this defense falls apart when you consider how many older Call of Duty and Battlefield games with modern weapons are still playable.

Add to this the fact that a court has ruled that game companies do NOT have to pay licensing fees for using military vehicles in their games (in the Activision VS AM General Case of 2020: see below) and it becomes obvious that the most likely culprit for Ace Combat games being periodically culled by Nacmo-Bandai is that the company wants to take older games off the market so people will have to buy new ones. (That also likely explains why they won't sell older versions of the Tekken and Soul Calibur games which are IPs they themselves created.)

If you want to buy this game for single-player, that's a highly subjective proposal with no clear right answer but if you want to buy it for multiplayer, just know it's likely only a matter of time till Namco kills it.

Notes:

Call of Duty games can depict Humvees without a license, says judge

https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/1/21203414/activision-wins-humvee-call-of-duty-trademark-infringement-lawsuit

Originally posted by paomayo:

BN is a JAPANESE company. American laws don't apply overseas...

There was never a sound legal basis for demanding licensing fees for using military vehicles in a work of art in the first place. In fact, though some American companies did try to innovate by demanding licensing fees, the court ruling in this case makes it clear that they have no legal rights do do so.

As for your "other countries" claim, if there were another country big enough to actually affect the business of a game publisher that could be counted on to uphold the "right" of a company that makes vehicles to demand licensing fees from video games, AM General would have sued Activision there. There is no such country so they didn't.

This is planned obsolescence plain and simple which is ALSO the reason that older Tekken and Soul Calibur games are being killed by the same company. Namco-Bandai wants old games to die so that players are forced into buying new ones. It's that simple.

[cyäegha]

Originally posted by Fomin:

As for your "other countries" claim, if there were another country big enough to actually affect the business of a game publisher... AM General would have sued Activision there.

which is a very self-serving argument that focuses too much on minutae specific to AM general's humvee case, and ignores the wider precedent of international copyright regulation
japanese and american companies don't generally see eye-to-eye in courts of international law, as evidenced by the harmony gold v. studio nue case
or rather, in an american court where japanese copyright litigation holds no sway

you are also ignoring japan's patent willinglessness to litigate outside of their borders; the best known case - nintendo v. bowser - was filed by nintendo of america
scamco aren't going to fight boeing to the death over the rights to use the likenesses of their airframes when they'd find it considerably easier and cheaper to capitulate to boeing's extortionate licensing fees

that is also whataboutism predicated on AM general and activision both having active business dealings in this hypothetical nationstate

Originally posted by Fomin:

There is no such country so they didn't.

and thus makes for an invalid talking point

Originally posted by Fomin:

This is planned obsolescence plain and simple which is ALSO the reason that older Tekken and Soul Calibur games are being killed by the same company. Namco-Bandai wants old games to die so that players are forced into buying new ones. It's that simple.

this is not a business practice specific to scamco bandai, nor does it meaningfully correlate to their current efforts at milking you for your hard-earned money; if they were intent on killing the game quicker, they would have stopped pushing downloadable content far sooner
i'll bet you're going to wilfully misinterpret this sentence to mean "namco are actively trying to prolong the life of this game farther" when we both know what the moniker 'maintenance mode' implies

your argument is also predicated on the notion that the game, and indeed previous games in the series, were built up as live-service games first-and-foremost, when only infinity (to exclude mobile titles) actually was
you're a smart guy, even if you don't respect anybody on this board enough to come across as one: you should know what you're getting yourself into with a tacked-on multiplayer mode that is extant solely because the board of directors demanded it

i know you really want the two or three people on your friend's list who keep upvoting your reviews to know just how bad scamco are, but they aren't exactly putting a gun to your head and demanding that you mindlessly purchase every single piece of DLC
i reiterate, you are your own worst enemy when it comes to perpetuating this abhorrent nickle-and-diming, and justifying your doing so by suggesting that not buying it doesn't give you the right to criticize it is, at best, disingenuous

it is, of course, easier to uphold falsehoods in a forum in which the people you've blocked aren't allowed to counterpoint them, though

[主人 CK]

Thank you so much guys

[Naruto 607]

Originally posted by Fomin:

...but if you want to buy it for multiplayer, just know it's likely only a matter of time till Namco kills it.

You do know that, compared to Infinity, lobby hosting is via the user's PC that's hosting (peer-to-peer) like in Assault Horizon, right? The devs won't even kill a game that utilizes server-side hosting.

why am I even responding to you here? It seems like it's a useless endeavor to get myself into this senseless fight.

[Roadie]

Steam may report 460-ish average players but it is not separating that number from players who only play single player. It is simply reporting people who are playing AC7 *at all*, including single player.

Given that I only find between zero to 3 lobbies at any given time, I'd say multiplayer is dead.