ACE COMBAT™7: SKIES UNKNOWN

ACE COMBAT™7: SKIES UNKNOWN

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skin mod can't use in story mode?
It seem the skin mod only work in internet mode and not working in story mode and free mission?
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Histidine Dec 12, 2021 @ 5:13am 
You can change skins in free mission, and in campaign after the first time. Installed mods that change skins should also just work. Are you seeing something different?
RIP BandaiNamco Dec 12, 2021 @ 4:33pm 
Idk ever tried beating the campaign at least ONCE?
Fomin Dec 12, 2021 @ 4:43pm 
Originally posted by Aikawa Yuuka JP:
It seem the skin mod only work in internet mode and not working in story mode and free mission?

The DLC skins are only available in single-mission and campaign AFTER you complete the story mode...

Why are cosmetics that don't affect gameplay held back until after you finish the game but OP DLC planes like the Raven and Morgan available from the start of the game upon purchase? The obvious answer is that the people in charge of this product want people to buy DLC planes as a shortcut to make the game easier. It's the same method used by all of the worst Pay-to-Win, Free-to-Play games.

Git gud... or grind... or spend money. TOTALLY not "Pay to Progress" as Pay-to-Win games like World of Warships prefer to be called nowadays. :cozybrawlhalla1:
Last edited by Fomin; Dec 12, 2021 @ 5:20pm
DANCINGDOLL [JP] Dec 12, 2021 @ 6:07pm 
not the dlc skin I mean, the Nexus MOD
RIP BandaiNamco Dec 12, 2021 @ 10:59pm 
Originally posted by Aikawa Yuuka JP:
not the dlc skin I mean, the Nexus MOD
Originally posted by PSVR GOAT:
Idk ever tried beating the campaign at least ONCE?
KillerDuck Dec 13, 2021 @ 1:07am 
If I'm not mistaken, until you finish the campaign once all the skin slots are locked. Modding should still work but you need the skin to be in the proper slot based on the skin that mission would use so specifically: Slot4 for missions 1-4, Slot 5 for missions 5-10, and Slot 6 for missions 10-20 + DLC missions. Hopefully that helps, if not then there might be something wrong with how the mod was installed but that's all I can really be helpful with.
=^.^= Bigshow Dec 13, 2021 @ 10:31pm 
Originally posted by Fomin:
Originally posted by Aikawa Yuuka JP:
It seem the skin mod only work in internet mode and not working in story mode and free mission?

The DLC skins are only available in single-mission and campaign AFTER you complete the story mode...

Why are cosmetics that don't affect gameplay held back until after you finish the game but OP DLC planes like the Raven and Morgan available from the start of the game upon purchase? The obvious answer is that the people in charge of this product want people to buy DLC planes as a shortcut to make the game easier. It's the same method used by all of the worst Pay-to-Win, Free-to-Play games.

Git gud... or grind... or spend money. TOTALLY not "Pay to Progress" as Pay-to-Win games like World of Warships prefer to be called nowadays. :cozybrawlhalla1:


to quote JonTron

"what.......WHAT........WHAT THE ♥♥♥♥!?"
RIP BandaiNamco Dec 13, 2021 @ 10:51pm 
Originally posted by =^.^= Bigshow:
Originally posted by Fomin:

The DLC skins are only available in single-mission and campaign AFTER you complete the story mode...

Why are cosmetics that don't affect gameplay held back until after you finish the game but OP DLC planes like the Raven and Morgan available from the start of the game upon purchase? The obvious answer is that the people in charge of this product want people to buy DLC planes as a shortcut to make the game easier. It's the same method used by all of the worst Pay-to-Win, Free-to-Play games.

Git gud... or grind... or spend money. TOTALLY not "Pay to Progress" as Pay-to-Win games like World of Warships prefer to be called nowadays. :cozybrawlhalla1:


to quote JonTron

"what.......WHAT........WHAT THE ♥♥♥♥!?"
more like
https://youtu.be/gsekyA0bRGw
Naruto 607 Dec 14, 2021 @ 5:30am 
Originally posted by Fomin:
Originally posted by Aikawa Yuuka JP:
It seem the skin mod only work in internet mode and not working in story mode and free mission?

The DLC skins :steamfacepalm: are only available in single-mission and campaign AFTER you complete the story mode...

Why are cosmetics that don't affect gameplay held back until after you finish the game but OP DLC planes like the Raven and Morgan available from the start of the game upon purchase? The obvious answer is that the people in charge of this product want people to buy DLC planes as a shortcut to make the game easier. It's the same method used by all of the worst Pay-to-Win, Free-to-Play games.

Git gud... or grind... or spend money. TOTALLY not "Pay to Progress" as Pay-to-Win games like World of Warships prefer to be called nowadays. :cozybrawlhalla1:
:steamfacepalm:

Seriously?

DLC skins and skin mods are entirely two different things. It does not relate on how you want to describe this game as "oooooh, I pay for this, I win for this" and all that crap. And seriously, would you consider this game as P2W when the last DLC come out soon?

Anyways, I ran out of words to describe your lack of knowledge of making a difference between skin mods and skins that came from the DLCs that you consider as P2W. Want proof? Skin mods are free and replaces corresponding slots according to what skin you want to install, but you have to do a bit of a work before installing them.

https://www.moddb.com/games/ace-combat-7/
https://www.nexusmods.com/acecombat7skiesunknown/mods/

I think I feel dead inside when you stated "DLC skins" while OP stated "skin mods".
Last edited by Naruto 607; Dec 14, 2021 @ 7:39am
Fomin Dec 14, 2021 @ 6:45am 
Originally posted by Aikawa Yuuka JP:
It seem the skin mod only work in internet mode and not working in story mode and free mission?
Originally posted by Fomin:
The DLC skins are only available in single-mission and campaign AFTER you complete the story mode...

Why are cosmetics that don't affect gameplay held back until after you finish the game but OP DLC planes like the Raven and Morgan available from the start of the game upon purchase? The obvious answer is that the people in charge of this product want people to buy DLC planes as a shortcut to make the game easier. It's the same method used by all of the worst Pay-to-Win, Free-to-Play games.

Git gud... or grind... or spend money. TOTALLY not "Pay to Progress" as Pay-to-Win games like World of Warships prefer to be called nowadays. :cozybrawlhalla1:
Originally posted by Aikawa Yuuka JP:
not the dlc skin I mean, the Nexus MOD

You have to complete the campaign first because being able to change your plane's paint job would TOTALLY break immersion... but being able to use the hacked out "DLC" planes (microtransactions) the first time you play the campaign is perfectly fine since "pay-to-progress" is a core tenet of this product's monetization.
Last edited by Fomin; Dec 14, 2021 @ 6:46am
Naruto 607 Dec 14, 2021 @ 7:10am 
Originally posted by Fomin:
You have to complete the campaign first because being able to change your plane's paint job would TOTALLY break immersion...
Skin mods CAN break immersion by any chance, but does that mean installing skin mods require players to COMPLETE the campaign once?

If it was intended for skins other than slots 4, 5, and 6, it does make sense, but that doesn't mean the player is FORCED to buy the DLCs only to complete the campaign once. The only thing the player for the first time to see the skin to work in the middle of first-time campaign playthrough is to check whether it's showing properly.

Slot 4 is for missions 1 to 4.
Slot 5 is for missions 5 to 10.
Slot 6 is for missions 11 to 20 AND DLC missions 1 to 3.

What you said does agree with my thinking, assuming that I'm resetting my savegame and start from the scratch, but this is about skin mod, not DLC skins that you consider as "P2W" as you would with that "beloved" World of Warship or Shinobi Striker.

Also, buying the DLCs doesn't change anything either. Skin mods are "livery or paint job swap" that only exclusive to PC version, the one that you're using. And I agree that players MUST complete the campaign once to unlock all skins and use the emblems, but did you know that there are skins that can be unlocked AFTER you play multiplayer matches?

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2676492289

Those are the things you can't get from "pay-to-win microtransaction" theory that you talked about. Literal grind, yes, but this is against players, and the pain to find anyone who's willing to do Team Deathmatch in this game.
Last edited by Naruto 607; Dec 14, 2021 @ 7:47am
KronQ Dec 14, 2021 @ 12:21pm 
Originally posted by Fomin:
Why are cosmetics that don't affect gameplay held back until after you finish the game but OP DLC planes like the Raven and Morgan available from the start of the game upon purchase? The obvious answer is that the people in charge of this product want people to buy DLC planes as a shortcut to make the game easier. It's the same method used by all of the worst Pay-to-Win, Free-to-Play games.

An elaborate way to say you are bad at the game, but that's kinda your personal problem, not the game's.

Should we just ignore these 2 facts:
1. They added a turbo easy mode a year after the game came out, completely for free.
2. There were no DLC superplanes when the game first came out.
You know, so your schizo ramblings can pretend to make sense?
Fomin Dec 18, 2021 @ 1:57am 
Originally posted by Fomin:
You have to complete the campaign first because being able to change your plane's paint job would TOTALLY break immersion... but being able to use the hacked out "DLC" planes (microtransactions) the first time you play the campaign is perfectly fine since "pay-to-progress" is a core tenet of this product's monetization.
Originally posted by Naruto 607:
I agree that players MUST complete the campaign once to unlock all skins and use the emblems, but did you know that there are skins that can be unlocked AFTER you play multiplayer matches?

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2676492289

Those are the things you can't get from "pay-to-win microtransaction" theory that you talked about. Literal grind, yes, but this is against players, and the pain to find anyone who's willing to do Team Deathmatch in this game.

Purely cosmetic skins aren't pay-to-win though selling one certainly does qualify as a microtransaction. On the other hand, selling any gameplay-affecting item for real money DOES make the game somewhat pay-to-win.

The "DLC" planes sold for this game are MUCH stronger than the starter planes before they have been upgraded and that literally makes the game easier to "win" if you "pay" by buying them with real money on the store page so yes, that is pay-to-win.

Back to the skins, I think that it would be much better to let players choose their paint jobs at any point in the game and make them wait until after finishing the game to use the OP "DLC" aircraft rather than the opposite which is what this "pay-to-progress" [easier] game does.
Last edited by Fomin; Dec 18, 2021 @ 2:06am
Naruto 607 Dec 18, 2021 @ 7:23am 
Originally posted by Fomin:
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This is design-wise, buddy. Don't you read what the other guy said to you after me?
Originally posted by KronQ:
Should we just ignore these 2 facts:
1. They added a turbo easy mode a year after the game came out, completely for free.
2. There were no DLC superplanes when the game first came out.
You know, so your schizo ramblings can pretend to make sense?

Look, Ik you have a different feeling with this game, but please, get over it. "DLC skins" and skin mods are two different things. They cannot be related with what you said over numerous threads over here as "pay-to-win", "pay-to-progress", or whatever the hell you want to call it to describe "how a game can pull your money out of you by buying something ingame, merely to progress in a singleplayer game". Skin mods can be installed at anytime the player wants to. First-timer, mid-playthrough, post-playthrough... even WITH or WITHOUT buying EVERY SINGLE one of the DLCs offered here.

I only respond to you as you lack knowledge of how PC modding works, unless if you have played older GTA games, on PC, and have heard how to mod game files.
I'm betting you never touched Multiplayer too. It's a PITA these days, compared to the launch day where a lot of people hosted a lobby to join in and then they stopped months after.
Last edited by Naruto 607; Dec 18, 2021 @ 7:41am
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